All search engines are SCAMS!

[Kathy]

Since all search engines are scams
now ( YOU pay to get placed - libraries )

( or you dont exist )

How do you get hits?

( AND NO not these overused ideas here )

1. free Warez - so people will come
2. free porn - so people will come
3. Tons of free script stuff - so I can have them hit my
banners ]

Any other ideas for REAL sites?

Thanks

Kath

[Toefur]

Link exchange.

It takes time, effort and patience.

But it pays off in the end.

Seaarch and look and scavenge for sites that have the same sort of content as yours; and exchange links with those sites!

[keith]

i use weezer as a basis for one of my sites, works like a charm.

[Hobbes]

I haven't really had a problem with search engines. It does take time though. Ended up as #2 in AOL (lmao) for Window Cleaning (I think) for my clients page. Anyway, Word of mouth/link swapping/and posting your link on message boards (like in signatures!) does help.

[Rick]

Actually... I've never submitted my site to any search engines, yet AltaVista has it listed in the top 5 sites under its category. In a way, I wish it were getting a lower rating because my bandwidth is skyrocketing... It's TOO popular.

[Epgs]

what site? and boy i have never heard it is too popular

[Canuckkev]

Wish my site was too popular. The best I had for one of my sites was like 9th in Altavista for "Free Game Downloads".

[Gayowulf]

Try link lists, banner exchanges, and webrings. Im not submitted to any search engines and I get 1000+ unique visits/day

[polygon]

Most of the traffic to my site comes from search engines, and it has never occurred to me to pay them anything.

People type all kinds of things into search engines. Type in something generic, something predictable, and either you'll be overwhelmed by the undifferentiated mass of stuff, or you'll become a commodity, guided directly into the jaws of the sites that have bought you.

But type in something nutty or unusual or obscure, something which is not omnipresent on the web, and the search engine has no choice but to present to you the handful of things which meet your eccentric criteria. My guess is that most or a great many searches are in that second category. Nobody can buy placement on them, because nobody can predict what they will be.

Go to Google and type in "Orlando Kellogg" (a 19th century congressman from upstate New York), and the first listing -- out of eleven thousand! -- is from my site.

I guess what I'm saying is that, if you put a ton of content online, people are going to find it.

[LeX]

Webrings really bring hits to your site?

*thinks for a minute*

Yeah, I suppose so...

[GWolf]

Since all search engines are scams
now ( YOU pay to get placed - libraries )

( or you dont exist )

How do you get hits?


Kathy I understand and share in your frustration.
Just happy I was fortunate enough to have made it into most search engines before they became such money grubbers.

And Google has been exceptionally nice to me. I have 2 terms that will bring people to my site with the "I'm feeling lucky" button. Ginger, and one I would guess nobody ever uses, wolfcam.

Finding like sites and asking for link exchanges has been another excellent form of traffic for me. I have never had much luck with banner exchange programs. And the FFA have never been good for anything but SPAM.

I did find an interesting type of FFA though that does not ask for your email and sends no spam.
http://post-me.to/ffaview.cgi?member=GWolf

I also get a fair amount of traffic from Top 100 type sites
and webrings.

Hope you find something helpful in all this.