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Master_tee
October 12th, 2002, 20:27
im planing on starting a gaming and forums site....i want...
1.They ALWAYS Pay
2.No Porn
3.I dont care how much money just a normal amm. (fair amm.)
4.will pay to people in sweeden
5.dont spawn popups or ask to install software make you download anything or install spyware anything like that


i know its alot to ask....
one last thing....
if somone could tell me one that offers popups and banners (if not just post that and tell me)

popup/unders or banners

thanks alot all!

also please post visitors required to go with that ad company you are posting about...thanks again

Jan
October 12th, 2002, 20:44
Most ad companies won't accept gaming sites or forums, so don't get your hopes up too high :)

Kaliber
October 12th, 2002, 22:34
try SI
www.standardinternet.com

Jan
October 12th, 2002, 22:56
Sweden is on the list the list of countries no accepted.

http://www.popuptraffic.com/terms.html

nitroboy
October 13th, 2002, 10:29
Originally posted by Jan
Sweden is on the list the list of countries no accepted.

http://www.popuptraffic.com/terms.html yes they (= all SI programs) have indeed a huge list of civilized countries they don't accept, and I guess he never went to any of these countries so he doesn't know how they look like....I am curious how he chosed these countries and on which reason that list is based :rolleyes:

conkermaniac
October 13th, 2002, 10:42
Originally posted by nitroboy
yes they (= all SI programs) have indeed a huge list of civilized countries they don't accept, and I guess he never went to any of these countries so he doesn't know how they look like....I am curious how he chosed these countries and on which reason that list is based :rolleyes:

LOL! That list is the funniest thing I've ever seen! What a bunch of retards who don't know their geography! :D

nitroboy
October 13th, 2002, 10:47
Originally posted by conkermaniac


LOL! That list is the funniest thing I've ever seen! What a bunch of retards who don't know their geography! :D yeah I'm curious who made that list, I think that person just chosed some countries :D

lfc7607
October 13th, 2002, 11:43
It's an impressive list, 172 countries..... And if you take a look at UN they only have 191 countries as members http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html

Would it not be easier to write which 20-30 countries they do accept webmasters and trafic from ??? LOL....

Best regards

Martin

nitroboy
October 13th, 2002, 12:13
Originally posted by lfc7607
It's an impressive list, 172 countries..... And if you take a look at UN they only have 191 countries as members http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html

Would it not be easier to write which 20-30 countries they do accept webmasters and trafic from ??? LOL....

Best regards

Martin actually you have a certain point there ROTFLMAO

Jan
October 13th, 2002, 21:49
Originally posted by nitroboy
I am curious how he chosed these countries and on which reason that list is based :rolleyes:
I think you will find a lot of ad companies refuse these same countries. I know I have seen it on many sites before.

Kaliber
October 14th, 2002, 04:04
Its a pity, but why sweden?

RevenuePilot
October 14th, 2002, 04:12
Personally I think its wrong to discriminate based on webmasters country. For example if the webmaster is from Sweden it doesn’t mean he or she will be a cheater. We have just as many cheaters from Austrlalia as from Sweden. It all comes down to each individual specifically, we will always have honest and dishonest webmasters from all over the world. That’s why RevenuePilot accepts webmasters from all the countries as long as they follow the rules.

nitroboy
October 14th, 2002, 06:27
Originally posted by Jan

I think you will find a lot of ad companies refuse these same countries. I know I have seen it on many sites before.
Jan can you show me other ad programs that don't accept webmasters from the following countries?
- Belgium
- Denmark
- Greece
- Turkey (even mentioned twice in the list!!) :rolleyes:
- Italy
- The Netherlands
- Norway
- Sweden

I guess they have a good reason for not accepting the following countries, keeping in mind SI is a professional company.

Kaliber
October 14th, 2002, 06:33
seems they realy don't like those scandanavian countries

}:8) Supermoo
October 14th, 2002, 06:57
I think these decisions have been based on much research, and have been developed over time. Also, I've heard of many publishers who contact the affiliate managers directly or the affiliate support formaly, and are accepted.

Although I have also heard of a many publishers who were unsuccessful in this process, tried another few companies and had success with them.

If you're intrested in a particular program and wish to join try contacting the support crew and explain why you should be excepted, and why you'll be asset to their program. Be warned in advance if you attempt to cheat them I'm sure they won't be too happy.

Jan
October 14th, 2002, 07:03
Originally posted by Kaliber
seems they realy don't like those scandanavian countries
There aren't a real lot of Scandavian countries...:p

Nitro, I will try to find some examples for you, I looked at a few this morning but they weren't listed as SI's was, but there ARE some more believe me. :) Would I lie to you? :eek: :classic2:

neftha
October 14th, 2002, 07:15
Originally posted by }:8) Supermoo
I think these decisions have been based on much research, and have been developed over time. Also, I've heard of many publishers who contact the affiliate managers directly or the affiliate support formaly, and are accepted.

Although I have also heard of a many publishers who were unsuccessful in this process, tried another few companies and had success with them.

If you're intrested in a particular program and wish to join try contacting the support crew and explain why you should be excepted, and why you'll be asset to their program. Be warned in advance if you attempt to cheat them I'm sure they won't be too happy.

That is very true. I am from The Netherlands myself and it seems that a lot of ad companies ban this country. After thinking about it for a while, I decided to contact the SI staff about this issue. They published the list to scare off cheaters. However, they do NOT have a 100% ban on these countries. What you should do is: contact them, show them your site, very important: the amount of USA traffic you have and why you should be considered to join. If they like your site and your reasons, you will be accepted without a problem.

The reason why these countries are on the list? Because they generate statistically a lot of cheaters. It has nothing to do with discrimination, you can bet on it USA members will generate just as much of cheaters as other countries but putting the USA on the list will make it very impossible for them to run their business ;)

nitroboy
October 14th, 2002, 09:54
Originally posted by neftha
They published the list to scare off cheaters. However, they do NOT have a 100% ban on these countries. yes maybe that's true, but still......some people (like me for example) now have a "wrong view" (or how you call it) about SI

conkermaniac
October 14th, 2002, 10:19
The UN lists 191 countries. There are actually 192 countries in the world, since East Timor has not joined the UN. For those who are wondering, Switzerland (which happens to be one of the countries NOT blocked by Popuptraffic.com, surpisingly enough, since they are more money launderers there than anywhere else) has recently joined the UN.

Here are some problems I have found:

- It is "Czech Republic". It's not "CzechRepublic"
- It's French Guiana, not French Guyana. And anyway, it's not a country, but rather an overseas department of France. And it's amazing they can't join, since France is not being blocked.
- French Polynesia. See my explanation for French Guiana.
- Gibraltar. Not a country; it belongs to the UK.
- Guernsey. This is DEFINITELY not a country. Part of the UK. They should be allowed to join, since the UK isn't blocked.
- Hong Kong? Are you kidding me? This is a city, not a country!
- Aceh? Excuse me? I know Indonesia has lots of islands, but it does not mean that they are all countries!
- It's "East Timor", not "EastTimor"
- South Kurdish...this isn't even a region that's trying to become independent, unless they're talking about Kurdistan.
- Amazing...don't we love Iraq and Iran? In fact, they're names so great, we listed them twice!
- It's Macau, not Macao, and it belongs to China. Why don't we list Hawaii up there too?
- Mercosur? I've never even heard of this place!
- It's Federated States of Micronesia. Micronesia would include the Northern Mariana Islands and Guam, which are part of the US Trust Territory of the Pacific, which in turn should be given access since they are part of the US.
- This "Nagorno-Karabakh Artsakh" has never existed. And Azerbaijan is spelled incorrectly.
- The Netherlands? If the "the" is so important, why don't you call it the Kingdom of the Netherlands?
- Niue doesn't even want to be independent.
- I heard that North Kore does not want to reunite with South Kore, and the northern Kore hates the US and doesn't allow tourists from the US or South Kore.
- Palestinian? That's an ADJECTIVE! And Palestine isn't independent anyway.
- Hmm...Sahara...why don't we include the Himalayas too?
- Sao Tome and Principe does not exist...you gotta have teh accents.
- It's Serbia and Montenegro.
- Oh yeah, let's all hail the holy Dalai Lama for making Tibet independent from China. Did you hear that New York is now an independent country? Hey, where's Quebec then? And Transylvania! Certainly they all must be independent countries now!
- Turks and Caicos Island. They really hate the British, don't they? Hawaii is also a country now, if you didn't know.
- U.S.S.R.? What's the point of listing former countries? We only care about TODAY!
- Then again, if you're going to list the U.S.S.R., why list Uzbekistan?
- North Vietnam and Vietnam? Please...
- SouthWestern Sahara: wow, talk about a new country that's specific in where they're at!
- Yugoslavia is the same thing as Serbia/Montenegro and a bunch of other countries put together.
- Zaïre (with the accents) doesn't exist anymore.

There probably are more, but I'm too lazy to pick them out. :classic2:

Anyway, nitroboy, we use the term "bad impression" in America. I think that's what you mean there. :classic2:

nitroboy
October 14th, 2002, 11:16
Originally posted by conkermaniac
There probably are more, but I'm too lazy to pick them out. :classic2:
wow thanks for that!! :eek:
amazing what you wrote down there...the only thing I noticed was that Turkey is listed twice, maybe they just want to be sure no one from Turkey applies :D


Originally posted by conkermaniac
Anyway, nitroboy, we use the term "bad impression" in America. I think that's what you mean there. :classic2: yes that's the term I meant, and now with your post my impression about them is even worse :p

Niklas
October 14th, 2002, 11:17
Originally posted by nitroboy

Jan can you show me other ad programs that don't accept webmasters from the following countries?
- Belgium
- Denmark
- Greece
- Turkey (even mentioned twice in the list!!) :rolleyes:
- Italy
- The Netherlands
- Norway
- Sweden

I guess they have a good reason for not accepting the following countries, keeping in mind SI is a professional company.

All other scandinavian countries are banned except for FINLAND! :D

nitroboy
October 14th, 2002, 11:18
Originally posted by niklasvh


All other scandinavian countries are banned except for FINLAND! :D maybe they just forgot to add that country :D
otherwise...strange if finland is allowed :confused2

Niklas
October 14th, 2002, 11:32
Finland is a very developed country you know?
Nokia is finnsih :)

nitroboy
October 14th, 2002, 11:38
Originally posted by niklasvh
Finland is a very developed country you know?
Nokia is finnsih :) Sweden is developed too, or isn't Saab Swedish? :biggrin2:

actually, at least all the countries I mentioned before are developed!! even Belgium!! :p

Niklas
October 14th, 2002, 12:50
Trust me, all the scandinavian countries are all very developed. And i know The Netherlands, Luxenburg, and Belguim are developed too, because i have lived in all of those places!

lfc7607
October 14th, 2002, 15:59
Originally posted by niklasvh

All other scandinavian countries are banned except for FINLAND!

Now, I just have to say, that Finland IS NOT a scandinavian country.... There are only 3 scandinavian countries, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Then there is in addition Iceland, and Finland, but then you talk about the 5 nordic countries....



Originally posted by neftha

Because they generate statistically a lot of cheaters. It has nothing to do with discrimination, you can bet on it USA members will generate just as much of cheaters as other countries but putting the USA on the list will make it very impossible for them to run their business

Hmm... Is that not discrimination, if you use one measurement, and THEN select, without using it, but only has it as an excuse for keeping others out ?????

I could accept an argument that advertisers wants to target primarily northamerican web surfers. And that a website therefore has to have a certain amount/percentage of hits from that region. But to just have a long list (and I do not think that it ís the same list in all SI's programs) seems to be the easy way.

Best regards

Martin

neftha
October 14th, 2002, 18:06
Originally posted by lfc7607


Now, I just have to say, that Finland IS NOT a scandinavian country.... There are only 3 scandinavian countries, Denmark, Sweden and Norway. Then there is in addition Iceland, and Finland, but then you talk about the 5 nordic countries....



Hmm... Is that not discrimination, if you use one measurement, and THEN select, without using it, but only has it as an excuse for keeping others out ?????

I could accept an argument that advertisers wants to target primarily northamerican web surfers. And that a website therefore has to have a certain amount/percentage of hits from that region. But to just have a long list (and I do not think that it ís the same list in all SI's programs) seems to be the easy way.

Best regards

Martin

Hey, USA is what rules the web, unfortunately. As most ad companies are USA based ... it would be kind a strange to ban your own country ;)

grand
October 15th, 2002, 03:58
For starters, I think if SI could they would accept people from all countries.

But you see thats the problem, they cant do that.

It's not FULLY up to them, the sponsors/advertisers get to decide also.

So let's think of a few things..

a Advertiser Selling american flag designs, Intended for American viewers..

What would a person from lets say north korea want with an american flag? It makes no sense to waste that advertising space.

Advertising costs $$$, so they make studies and all to produce results on which countries to accept publishers from.

Thus ending in the results of not selling advertising to countries in like japan. Because eigther they gain very little, or none at all.

SI has a very good TOS, And hell they are great.
Dont blame them for how the world is, blame everyone else lol

Force
October 27th, 2002, 16:34
i think they dont accept people from certain countries because there ads are not in the language they speak so it would be useless. for example, a person from china would probably make a chinese webpage. they wouldnt want there ads on it. well that what i think anyways.