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trenzterra
November 15th, 2002, 07:11
Wow I guess it's a small leap for Intel today. It released the 3.06ghz and I think it rulez.



Amd made Ghz, Intel made 2ghz and now 3ghz.



seems like amd is lagging behind but according to what it's going through now, it will rulez next time :)

kabatak
November 15th, 2002, 07:17
3.06ghz !!!!!!! :madchrist

Gayowulf
November 15th, 2002, 08:00
is 3.06 really necessary?

kabatak
November 15th, 2002, 08:14
not really, but if you have plenty of money you should have one. :D heh, rendering 3dsmax, maya and other 3d apps should be really fast using this processors.

Gayowulf
November 15th, 2002, 10:52
also don't forget that processor speed is directly proportional to penis size :rolleyes:

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 13:38
You do know that MHZ is not everything. But if it's a P4, might as well overclock that thing because you'd be wasting your money otherwise.


{edit]Also, there's no real gain to using the 3.06ghz P4 compared to the 2.66ghz or 2.8ghz. The only thing different about the 3.06ghz P4 is that it can run on a dual processor machine.

guitarnerd
November 15th, 2002, 14:55
You can multi-task much better. If I had one I would take full advantage of it. Video editing and audio editing take a lot of resources. I need a new computer my 1ghz Athlon isn't cutting it anymore

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 15:12
Well the AMD Athlon 2400+ can encode mp3s LAME faster than the P$ 2.4ghz.

The 2800+, I expect to be on par with the 3.06ghz.

guitarnerd
November 15th, 2002, 15:35
Encoding MP3's with that fast of a system will tend to have more to do with your hard drive. Just about anything faster than 1.5ghz will cause your hard drive to need to be able to transfer faster than your processor has to think if you get what I mean.

Intel is simply better

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 15:51
Well in that case, get a 2000+ and a nice cheap scsi harddrive. You can get both for the same price as a 3.06ghz.

guitarnerd
November 15th, 2002, 15:56
a Athlon 2400+ and a Pentium 4 2.4ghz CPU have about a $12 difference...I would choose the p4 considering the bus speed is 400mhz and for a few more dollars you can get a 533mhz bus speed processor so no you are wrong in every way because anybody in there right mind that knows a half a peanut about computers would choose the processor with a bus speed nearly twice as fast for what? $20-$30 there is no argument here.

Bruce
November 15th, 2002, 15:57
Intel Pentium 4 / 3.06GHz - $720

Hell, you can get a whole new computer for that price.

guitarnerd
November 15th, 2002, 15:58
Of course that is marketing the fastest costs a ridiculous amount but anything less is a resonable price

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 16:02
Well if I were in the market of a new computer, I'd wait. Why?

Hammer and the nforce2. 'nuff said.

www.oc-clan.net <- Preliminary Hammer Benchmarks :D

guitarnerd
November 15th, 2002, 16:05
I will admit those pictures are pretty dang funny...You do know that Intel is waiting to release the p5 so they can show up whatever amd has up there sleeve. Plus the hammerhead should have been around a year ago

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 16:14
Guitarnerd, does it really matter? I mean I doubt your going to buy a p4 3.06ghz or a barton/clawhammer anytime soon.

The only I like about p4's is that they overclock well.

Bruce
November 15th, 2002, 16:21
Originally posted by guitarnerd
You do know that Intel is waiting to release the p5 so they can show up whatever amd has up there sleeve. No they're not; the P4 will be their newest thing for at least another year or two. They still have quite a ways they can take the core. However, even their next line of processors, which you most likely won't se for a couple of years or more, probably won't even be called Pentium 5s.

trenzterra
November 15th, 2002, 19:52
Originally posted by Bruce
Intel Pentium 4 / 3.06GHz - $720

Hell, you can get a whole new computer for that price. but it's cheaper at dell! I checked that they sell 3.06ghz and the 2.8ghz at around the same price.

Daniel
November 15th, 2002, 19:56
Originally posted by trenzterra
but it's cheaper at dell! I checked that they sell 3.06ghz and the 2.8ghz at around the same price.

That's because the human person can't tell the difference. :rolleyes:

guitarnerd
November 18th, 2002, 12:52
I bet you 1 cent (payable with paypal) that Intel will give a new name to a processor when AMD releases there next thing

Daniel
November 18th, 2002, 16:53
Originally posted by guitarnerd
I bet you 1 cent (payable with paypal) that Intel will give a new name to a processor when AMD releases there next thing

Before you said Intel has the p5 coming out. Whatever happened to that hypothesis?

guitarnerd
November 18th, 2002, 20:23
Figure of speach, I just meant they will come out with something new. Maybe the p5 maybe not...either way I bet they will get something.

Daniel
November 18th, 2002, 20:38
Originally posted by guitarnerd
Figure of speach, I just meant they will come out with something new. Maybe the p5 maybe not...either way I bet they will get something.

Maybe something not costing a fortune like the Itanium or Xeon.

Not only is the AMD Barton/Hammer coming out, also the Opteron/Clawhammer.

guitarnerd
November 18th, 2002, 20:56
Originally posted by Daniel
Maybe something not costing a fortune like the Itanium or Xeon.

Not only is the AMD Barton/Hammer coming out, also the Opteron/Clawhammer.

I doubt they will compare to the XEON or ITANIUN.

ARe one of the new AMD processors going to be 64bit?

Daniel
November 18th, 2002, 20:58
All of them are going to be 64-bit, with atleast 512k of L2 cache.

Archbob
November 19th, 2002, 00:43
AMD's opteron is slated to release pretty soon.

trenzterra
November 19th, 2002, 04:28
Originally posted by Daniel
All of them are going to be 64-bit, with atleast 512k of L2 cache. I heard Intel is going to release their prescott at 1mb l2 cache and 800mhz memory clock i think. now they are at 533mhz

Daniel
November 19th, 2002, 07:22
Originally posted by trenzterra
I heard Intel is going to release their prescott at 1mb l2 cache and 800mhz memory clock i think. now they are at 533mhz

I said atleast 512 L2 cache, there will be versions with 1mb l2 Cache.

Ben
November 19th, 2002, 07:41
Arent AMD's new 64-bit chips going to be x86-based like the Athlon/Duron/K*/etc.? If so, watch Intel drop like a bird hit by a hunter. Intel's arent (at least I heard they aren't). :devious2:

Daniel
November 19th, 2002, 14:57
I believe they are going to x86-based.

guitarnerd
November 19th, 2002, 19:58
Originally posted by Ben
Arent AMD's new 64-bit chips going to be x86-based like the Athlon/Duron/K*/etc.? If so, watch Intel drop like a bird hit by a hunter. Intel's arent (at least I heard they aren't). :devious2:

All current Intels already are as well as AMD drrr!

Daniel
November 19th, 2002, 20:22
Originally posted by guitarnerd
All current Intels already are as well as AMD drrr!

I wonder what GC would say.

guitarnerd
November 19th, 2002, 20:39
Originally posted by Daniel
I wonder what GC would say.

My guess would be..."Well in my Dad's military I fixed 2000 machines in one day because I used amd. BTW I am a gay virgin"

trenzterra
November 19th, 2002, 20:43
Currently Intel is like a little better than AMD, but things will change like it did last time.

Daniel
November 19th, 2002, 20:52
Intel p4 = for the average user
AMD = the performance grunt

guitarnerd
November 19th, 2002, 20:55
Originally posted by Daniel
Intel p4 = for the average user
AMD = the performance grunt

No no no!!!

AMD = 266mhz bus = slow
AMD = heat = slow
if (amd = overclocked)
{
System.Status = BOOM!;
}

INTEL = 533mhz bus = fast
INTEL = Cool running
INTEL = Reliability
INTEL = Overclockable
if (intel = overclocked)
{
System.Status = "Damn that is fast";
}

Daniel
November 19th, 2002, 21:02
AMD = 333mhz bus = speedy
AMD = doing more work per cycle = heat(yes);slow(no)
if (amd = overclocked)
{
System.Status = VRRROOOOM!!!;
}

INTEL = 533mhz bus = fast
INTEL = Cool running = lazy
INTEL = expensive
INTEL = Overclockable
if (intel = overclocked)
{
System.Status = "Damn that is faster than stock, yet unstable";
}

I've seen XP 2800+ hit 3.4ghz and beyond, and guess what, it beaten a P4 3.06GHZ overclocked to 4.3ghz in 3dmark..

Toefur
November 19th, 2002, 23:40
Mine is 11inches long and 4inches thick...

... Oh, wait, we're talking about computers?

tandoc
November 20th, 2002, 05:43
Originally posted by kabatak
not really, but if you have plenty of money you should have one. :D heh, rendering 3dsmax, maya and other 3d apps should be really fast using this processors.

only worth it if u have the ram to keep up









3.06ghz is useless, unless u like compiling the linux kernel

guitarnerd
November 20th, 2002, 12:50
Originally posted by tandoc
only worth it if u have the ram to keep up









3.06ghz is useless, unless u like compiling the linux kernel

I do compile a lot of stuff that is all fairly large. I could put use to any processor

trenzterra
November 20th, 2002, 21:28
Originally posted by Daniel
Intel p4 = for the average user
AMD = the performance grunt Yeah, I hope Dell will sell that AMD Athlon 64 next year :(


Seems cool...

Daniel
November 20th, 2002, 21:38
The Athlon 64 is the Hammer. Well based on the Hammer core.

http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1752&p=3

trenzterra
November 20th, 2002, 21:39
Originally posted by Daniel
The Athlon 64 is the Hammer. Well based on the Hammer core.

http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1752&p=3 I know that...


Seems promising...