e-mail hosting problem

[netsihirbazi]

Hi,

When i had registered my domain i also purchased a pop3 email hosting package from the registrar. They dont provide free webhosting. So i had to find a free webhost.

Now my website is on a free host. The problem is, i cant use the email package i purchased. It required changing DNS nameservers to their servers. If i do that i will loose my webspace on the free host.(i know i have made a mistake purchasing the email package when i was not going to buy web-hosting on the same server)

Is there a solution for this? My e-mail host told me to contact the free host, to put a record for my mail server.(i am not sure what this means).

any help would be appreciated,

thanks.

:confused:

[riseup]

Originally posted by netsihirbazi

My e-mail host told me to contact the free host, to put a record for my mail server.(i am not sure what this means).


I think this is the best solution. You must contact you free webhost to change MX record into you email server. But I think not every free webhost would like to change MX record into you email host.
So just cancel you email host and ask for you money back :D
Btw what is your free webhosting do you use?

[netsihirbazi]

Hi,

thanks for the reply,
thats what i am going to do, cancel the email host. the free host i use is portland.co.uk. Thats pretty good, no banners, mysql, php, ....but no support at all

[CareBear]

do they require you to use their DNS servers? Otherwise you could go with some service like www.zoneedit.com and point www.yourdomain.com to the portland server ip and then add an MX record that point to your registar.

[netsihirbazi]

For the web server and email forwardings to work your domain name must be transferred to the Portland name servers. To update a domain name you will be asked for the Portland
name servers:

ns0.portland.co.uk 212.15.64.83
ns1.portland.co.uk 212.15.64.25

Once your domain name has been transferred to Portland it
will be our name servers that control its operation. If you would like to make custom modifications to your zone file (eg MX records) please visit http://www.domaincontroller.com

Hi,

this is from the welcome-email i received when i signed up for the free-hosting. any idea?

thank you

[murat]

forget portland
you could redirect your emails to a free emailadress, just use www.mydomain.com

[awayfromforum]

i think we all agree if i say that we suggest you dont use portland.

[riseup]

and because portland's bandwith just 100Mb and your site sometimes down.
I agree with murat. Just change your dns into mydomain than you need to change MX record into your email host.

[netsihirbazi]

thanks for the replies,

i signed up for the mydomain.com mydomain-plus service.

1) i added my domain.com
2) created a subdomain as mail.domain.com and pointed it to the e-mail host's ip address(entryhost). now my emails will be catched by my e-mail host?
3)in web-settings(ip pointing), i added my web-host's ip(portland).


for the last step, (via my registrar) i will change the dns nameservers to www.mydomain.com's name-servers.

is this all correct?

[murat]

think so...

[CareBear]

you didn't forget to change the nameservers to mydomain.com's nameservers with your registar did you? :)

After that propagated (anywhere from 24-72 hours) you can try (in Windows - open a command prompt):

nslookup
>set type=ns
>whateveryourdomainis.com
You should see the nameservers now and verify that they're pointing to mydomain.com's
>set type=mx
>whateveryourdomainis.com
You should verify that the 'mail exchanger' points to the proper hostname/IP for your email
>set type=a
>www.whateveryourdomainis.com
Should be portland's server ip. Or just open your domain in your browser :)
>exit

and you're done. If all of that checks out you should be fine.

[netsihirbazi]

Thank you all :)

[netsihirbazi]

CareBear,

it looks just fine in nslookup (ns,mx and a).All the changes i have made are active now.

I can use my e-mail now, but i cant access my website. In mydomain.com, my domain is pointed to Portland's ip's.

Should i wait ? or this could be a problem ?

thanks,

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when i typed -set type=a, it gave only the ip addresses(the ip's i pointed via mydomain.com).

[CareBear]

I can use my e-mail now, but i cant access my website. In mydomain.com, my domain is pointed to Portland's ip's.
Which IP did you use? You need to put whatever IP www.yourdomain.com pointed to before (as in: don't put portland's nameserver's ip in it). Did you write it down before you changed nameservers?

I hope that made sense because I think I worded it a bit wrong but can't really seem to think of a better way to put it.

For instance:
if ns.portland.co.uk = 123.123.123.123
& www.yourdomain.com was 123.123.123.124

then in mydomain.com you need to point www.yourdomain.com to the one it was before (in the example I made up it would be the second ip ending in 124).

btw-in case you didn't know... if you change anything you'll have to go through propagation again... usually most DNS entries have a TTL (time to live) of 24 hours.

Hope it helps

[netsihirbazi]

oopps,

guess i made a mistake, i put portland's nameserver ip's into mydomain.com (point web to ip).

and no i didnt write down before i have made the changes. Should i look for another host anyway? There is a guy here on the message board offering better features than what portland does.

thank you again :)

[CareBear]

Should i look for another host anyway?That's something I can't answer for you :). If you think you'll be better off there then you might want to switch.

If you decide to stay though:
* put the nameservers for your domain back to portland's nameservers
* wait till it propagates
* get the IP for www.yourdomain.com and write it down
(oh... check in your browser to see if it's actually working first :) )
* switch nameservers for your domain back to mydomain.com's & put in the proper IP
* wait for propagation once again

It's a big hassle and waiting for it to propagate is annoying so I'd say if you were planning on moving to a new host but postponed it this might be a good time. Otherwise just bite through it and everything should be working in 48h or so.

Best of luck :)

(If you do get a new host you still have the choice of keeping the dns at mydomain.com or asking them to adjust the MX. If you stay at mydomain don't forget to get their webserver's IP)

[netsihirbazi]

Thank you once again,

I think i am going to move to another host, it is really the best time for this.

take care,