oh no ! bad sector found @_@

[beely]

i have found about 24 kb bad sector on my C drive. is there anyway to repair it ???

-- is the solution is : delete all the partition and full format. is this the way to solve it ??

24kb?? hmm..... the sizeis quite small, isn't it ??what do think about it ? ignore it if it can't be repaired.

--beely

[CareBear]

what OS are you running and where did you see a message about bad sectors or what did it say exactly?

There's a big difference between a corrupted file and wrongly marked clusters or bad sectors.
The first just means something's went wrong with the file system (like turning the computer off without shutting windows down), the second means there's a physical error on your hard disk.

Right click on the drive in my computer, select properties and then the first option (first should be disk checking) and in the program that comes up mark something that says or looks similar to 'perform a complete surface scan'. The exact text depends on which OS you have so I can't be too specific.
You might want to do this when you don't need to use your computer for a few hours because depending on the size of your disk it can take a long while.

[beely]

well, i'm not so sure whether it's bad sector. yeah, i use Xp and mostly the computer didn't shut down successfully / purpose (although i knew that the computer have been shut down).

i realize there's an error on the file structure, i tried to access the scandisk to check whether there's an error. the error have been fixed. secondly, i run the "chkdsk" in DOS version. and found that 24 kb in bad sector. so ? is it sure a bad sector ??

oh, by the way, are u still using NTFS ? is all of the XP user should be in NTFS type on the comp? i have discovered FAT32 less suitable ... that somtimes there's will alot of troublesome while using the XP, sometimes it's shown scandisk procedure although the computer is completely shut down after the previous usage.

[CareBear]

Originally posted by beely
well, i'm not so sure whether it's bad sector. yeah, i use Xp and mostly the computer didn't shut down successfully / purpose (although i knew that the computer have been shut down).

i realize there's an error on the file structure, i tried to access the scandisk to check whether there's an error. the error have been fixed. secondly, i run the "chkdsk" in DOS version. and found that 24 kb in bad sector. so ? is it sure a bad sector ??

oh, by the way, are u still using NTFS ? is all of the XP user should be in NTFS type on the comp? i have discovered FAT32 less suitable ... that somtimes there's will alot of troublesome while using the XP, sometimes it's shown scandisk procedure although the computer is completely shut down after the previous usage. are you using NTFS or FAT32? I couldn't figure that out :confused:
NTFS keeps (since Win2k) a journal about the latest file operations so if something unexpected happens (like a restart without a shut down) it can just roll the file back to its previous state to prevent corruption.

Open a command prompt in WinXP (start/run and type: cmd and hit enter) and type: chkdsk c: /f. Since it's your c: drive it'll probably tell you it can't dismount the system drive and offer you to scheduele a disk check at the next reboot so type y(es) and reboot.
If you still get an error after that do the same but type: chkdsk c: /f /r
This will do a sector by sector scan of your harddisk and prevent files from getting placed at the ones that went bad.

Hope that helped :)

[beely]

well, i'm still using FAT32. planning to convert to NTFS soon.

hey CareBear, thanks for your tips more info on chkdsk. i tried to check by entering "chkdsk c:" and show 24k bad sector. it didn't show any error on it.

for addition, is there any solution to solve the bad sector? or the bad sector become like a junk land and can't use it anymore?

thanks again...

[CS-Eric]

Normally when a hard drive is found bad sector, nothing much can be saved or recoverd the HDD. Windows should be able to handle with it by default if you do a chkdsk /F and go reboot.

Only until next time you format your HD, formatting process would detect the bad sectors and "jump" to the next to continue doing the job until it's done, which also means your bad sectors would not be used after formatting.

As for OS doesn't shut dowm properly or successfully, normally it causes by some background processes that cannot be cleaned after a shut command has been called by the OS. Try to upgrade the service pack for Windows XP and see whether it fixes the problem or not.

For parition table, I use FAT for boot drive and backup partition, as it appears to be the easiest to fix when the table is corrupted. NTFS is much more sophisticated, and also a lot stable.

[beely]

thank for the info, CS-Eric.

about the bad sector. did you mean that i will lost the amout space of the bad sector after formatting? or the bad sector space will be recovered back ?

for more info, do win98 could support NTFS anyway ?

[velton]

throw it and get a new , prefer AMD.. don u ?

[beely]

Originally posted by velton
throw it and get a new , prefer AMD.. don u ?
ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO ROTFLMAO
it's just a HD problem. why should have to throw the computer. wahhhh...

[CS-Eric]

for more info, do win98 could support NTFS anyway ?

windows98 will not be compatible with NTFS partition table.


about the bad sector. did you mean that i will lost the amout space of the bad sector after formatting? or the bad sector space will be recovered back ?

Basically yes, but it would be 1000 times better than still using the bad sector to store your important data.

[beely]

oh. win98 can't support with NTFS. if let say that i wan to install multiple OS (win98 + winxp). i think i won work.right ??
anyway, thank for your info, CS-Eric.

[CS-Eric]

Yes it would work. If you are only running multiple windows platform in a single Hard Drive, you can format different partition tables. Let's say you want two for 98 and two for XP. You can format C: and D: to NTFS, E: and F: to FAT32. When you install your operating system, in the option when you can choose which partition to install the operating system in, in XP, you choose either C: or D:, in 98, you choose either E: or F:

By default windows boot loader, it will be able to detect and give you the option to choose when the compiter boots up, either to login to 98 or XP. Or you can install additional bootloader that replace the MBR record of your HD and use the boot loader to boot the OS.

Always recommend you to have a partition that only used to boot the OS.

[CareBear]

Win9x won't be able to boot if your C-drive is formatted with NTFS. So to use CS-Eric's example, your C&D drive should be FAT32 and E&F should be NTFS.
(Install Win98 first and then afterwards install WinXP)

WinXP would be able to see all 4 drives. Win98 would only see the FAT32 ones.

If you want to use NTFS under Win98 take a look at http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml . The free version will only allow you read-only access but it might be enough. Be sure to read through the entire page to make sure you understand how you need to install it.

[beely]

hey thanks guys. i will try for drive c in FAT32 and d in NTFS and another drive NTFS.