Anyone got Natural Selection?

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Just wondering has anyone got natural selection? Or if you just have half life and your interested in downloading NS.

Anyhow. Just say if you have and also you location. I'm just install natural selection on a server with red hat linux 7.3 and want to test it. Its located in New Jersey on a GIG-e to InterNAP.

[tandoc]

interested.. but can't b stuffed downloading it :cry2:

[is0lized]

It looks fun, but i want more details about it. Hehe

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

Its a free game mod for HL.
A good place to look is:
http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/
It includes a 'newbie' forum which could help and has screenshots.

[tandoc]

what about CS?

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

I could install that aswell I suppose.
I just have to get a quote issue sorted out before I can install anything.

Whats your connection speed?

[tandoc]

768up-128down

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

http://files.redphive.org/ns_install_v1.exe
Really good NS download file. Not sure if that includes the patch but the patch is only 2MB or so ....

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

Could you guys post traceroutes you get to the following IP: 66.78.45.251

We will then be able to see if using my server for your gaming is viable or not.

Post your traceroutes.
If you don't know how to do it say so and include your OS type and version and i'll post simple and easy to follow instructions for you.

Some example traceroutes
NAC:


traceroute to nac.net (207.99.0.69), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.78.45.130 (66.78.45.130) 0.109 ms 0.056 ms 0.026 ms
2 ge-0-2-0-502.core-01-teb.adcip.net (66.78.63.137) 0.392 ms 0.359 ms 0.342 ms
3 so-0-1-0-0.core-01-ewr.adcip.net (66.78.63.245) 1.705 ms 1.688 ms 1.673 ms
4 border29.fe5-2.virtualdevelop-1.nyc.pnap.net (216.223.47.93) 2.715 ms 2.313 ms 2.209 ms
5 core5.ge1-1-bbnet1.nyc.pnap.net (209.191.128.101) 2.462 ms 3.608 ms 2.228 ms
6 gi-3-8.a02.nycmny03.us.ra.verio.net (165.254.17.245) 2.780 ms 2.226 ms 2.227 ms
7 ge-1-0-0.a06.nycmny03.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.126.199) 3.183 ms 2.553 ms 3.062 ms
8 p16-3-0-0.a05.nycmny01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.126.77) 2.906 ms 2.628 ms 2.433 ms
9 xe-0-2-0.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.26.79) 2.820 ms 2.793 ms 2.855 ms
10 p16-1-0-1.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.99) 8.083 ms 8.640 ms 8.692 ms
11 p16-7-0-0.r01.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.20) 8.250 ms 8.549 ms 7.966 ms
12 p4-4-0.r00.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.2.233) 7.795 ms 7.801 ms 8.201 ms
13 eqix.ge-0-0-0.gbr1.ash.nac.net (206.223.115.69) 8.450 ms 8.865 ms 8.203 ms
14 0195.at-0-1-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net (209.123.11.138) 15.851 ms 16.162 ms 16.029 ms
15 0095.gi-1-1.msfc1.oct.nac.net (64.21.102.2) 16.457 ms 15.802 ms 15.672 ms
16 mail.nac.net (207.99.0.69) 16.228 ms 15.591 ms 15.744 ms

AOL.COM


traceroute: Warning: aol.com has multiple addresses; using 64.12.149.25
traceroute to aol.com (64.12.149.25), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.78.45.130 (66.78.45.130) 0.115 ms 0.057 ms 0.028 ms
2 ge-0-2-0-502.core-01-teb.adcip.net (66.78.63.137) 0.374 ms 0.344 ms 0.327 ms
3 so-0-1-0-0.core-01-ewr.adcip.net (66.78.63.245) 1.735 ms 1.683 ms 1.679 ms
4 12.119.140.49 (12.119.140.49) 1.704 ms 1.653 ms 1.673 ms
5 tbr1-p011503.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.214.182) 2.678 ms 2.553 ms 2.500 ms
6 tbr1-p013701.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.122.10.18) 7.171 ms 7.094 ms 6.962 ms
7 ggr2-p300.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.9.81) 6.831 ms 6.569 ms 6.492 ms
8 att-gw.dc.aol.com (192.205.32.6) 8.036 ms 7.941 ms 8.170 ms
9 bb1-ash-P1-0.atdn.net (66.185.139.208) 7.992 ms 7.798 ms 7.900 ms
10 bb1-dtc-P12-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.155) 8.451 ms 8.010 ms 8.010 ms
11 bb1-mtc-P9-0.atdn.net (66.185.152.95) 9.018 ms 8.691 ms 8.751 ms
12 pop1-mtc-P11-0.atdn.net (66.185.143.193) 8.803 ms 8.848 ms 8.750 ms
13 ow1-mc1-so-0-0-0.atdn.net (66.185.143.202) 9.122 ms 8.980 ms 8.965 ms


If you want me to traceroute any other sites or IPs just ask via this thread.

[is0lized]

Thanks for the link, i am getting 212k a sec ;)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Thanks for the link, i am getting 212k a sec ;)

No problem.
I was getting a constant 550kb/s while using the server to download some files I need.

I'm just waiting to have my VPS upgraded as i've run out of space. :o

Edited:
Just downloading it onto the server myself and getting 679kb/s pretty constant. :cool:



--06:24:48-- http://files.redphive.org/ns_install_v1.exe
=> `ns_install_v1.exe'
Resolving files.redphive.org... done.
Connecting to files.redphive.org[24.207.0.195]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 95,195,525 [application/octet-stream]

100%[============================================================ ============================>] 95,195,525 668.54K/s ETA 00:00

06:27:07 (668.54 KB/s) - `ns_install_v1.exe' saved [95195525/95195525]

[is0lized]

Um... NS doesn't work well. As it does for me is a pretty skin for half life and different controls, when i go to net games doesn't let me select NS servers...

And single player is just half life but with pretty sounds

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Its a multiplayer game not for single player usage. There is an option to have bots on a LAN server as an addon and you can filter the server list to show NS servers only.

NS is a team game.
There are Aliens and Marines.
Aliens have builders called Gorges who can build structures and heal and build hives.
Marines have a commander who can drop things for marines to build or give ammo or weapons or so on.

I suggest reading the forums for more information on it. Good newbie forums. :)

[is0lized]

For me it won't filter :(

[Daniel]

Tracing route to 66.78.45.251 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 55 ms 55 ms 58 ms *******************.sympatico.ca [**.**.**.*]

2 56 ms 55 ms 57 ms dis4-montrealak-Vlan200.in.bellnexxia.net [64.23
0.237.130]
3 56 ms 57 ms 53 ms core2-montrealak-Gigabite2-0.in.bellnexxia.net [
64.230.240.69]
4 67 ms 61 ms 65 ms core2-newyork83-pos1-2.in.bellnexxia.net [64.230
.240.14]
5 61 ms 65 ms 63 ms bx2-newyork83-pos4-0.in.bellnexxia.net [206.108.
103.198]
6 80 ms 81 ms 82 ms sl-gw31-nyc-13-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.111.37]

7 80 ms 82 ms 79 ms sl-bb23-nyc-12-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.13.33]

8 79 ms 79 ms 82 ms sl-bb20-nyc-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.13]
9 80 ms 79 ms 81 ms sl-bb12-nyc-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.122]
10 61 ms 66 ms 65 ms sl-internap-73-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.48.18]
11 64 ms 63 ms 62 ms border29.ge2-1-bbnet2.nyc.pnap.net [209.191.128.
164]
12 65 ms 64 ms 61 ms virtualdevelop-1.border29.nyc.pnap.net [216.223.
47.94]
13 64 ms 65 ms 67 ms so-0-1-0-0.core-01-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.246]

14 68 ms 67 ms 67 ms gi-49-502.colo-03-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.139]
15 66 ms 67 ms 69 ms 66.78.45.130
16 66 ms 67 ms 67 ms 66.78.45.251

Trace complete.


Not bad, Carl. :)

I guess I'll have to try NS, I heard of it before, just never actually played it. :)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
For me it won't filter :(

I had a few problems with that system as well. It kept telling me to install NS while I was using NS. :confused:

I use http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

Also.

Just to 'prove' that this server actually 'exists'.

http://66.78.45.251/sysinfo/phpSysInfo-2.1/

Also, see i'm not 'faking' the existane of this VPS.

Okay. It seems I have some free space... but I never had that free space before and my limit hasn't been upgraded :confused2

I'm going to try and install HL now.

[Daniel]

You don't even have any mounted partitions. :eek:

The hell?

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
You don't even have any mounted partitions. :eek:

The hell?

Its a custom designed VPS i'm beta testing. The kernel is custom developed for this usage. There are issues which need to be sorted. At the moment i'm having issues installing the HL server.



tar: hlds_l/valve/halflife.wad: Wrote only 3584 of 10240 bytes
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors


I'm troubleshooting this issue right now and will try to solve it as soon as possible and get this baby working. :cool:

Edit: I believe I have ran out of disk space. So, i'm going to get my space upgraded if possible. I'm looking into it.

[is0lized]

Fun game, gotta start CS to play though :(

[Jan]

Originally posted by MN-Carl
Edit: I believe I have ran out of disk space. So, i'm going to get my space upgraded if possible. I'm looking into it.
Maybe you should buy one of those servers you advertise every week or so ;)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Fun game, gotta start CS to play though :(

Hey,

Thats not right.

Create new shortcut.

target:
C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\hl.exe -game ns -noipx -nojoy -nointro -console -numericping

Call it Natural Selection.

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Jan
Maybe you should buy one of those servers you advertise every week or so ;)

Hey,

I'm only a sales rep when I offer those. We both know that.

Okay. The problem seems to be with the /home 'directory' I presume its a partiton but i'm going to have to ask about that. If it is I will get more space and change the partition size if possible. I'm not too sure how the VPS works per say but I will fix this issue asap.

Its really good connectivity though and should be good for gaming once I get this issues sorted.

By the way Daniel do you still need a CS server? I could install that too.

Edit: The disk space issue is being resolved and I will post once it has been resolved.

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Okay here is the latest.

I have found out that the only partition is '/' which is currently 1.0G big and 91% used. I 'asked' to get my 'vds' upgraded. Which has not happend as of yet. Once I get my vds upgraded to a size where by I can install HL and NS easily without ran out of disk space errors I shall start to do so and then post the IP for you guys to connect to with information. I shall also install AdminMOD and will be testing the performance of the server while playing different maps and it would be good if you could help that. There will be no adverts on the server and the limit of 'active' players will be 16 I think with 2 slots reserve for admins.

I shall probably give Daniel admin level as he is trustworthly and knows quite abit about HL and admin commands as far as I know.

Anyhow, any suggestions? anyone use NS currently?

[is0lized]

I need a cs server for my clan too, sponsor shut mine down :mad:

BTW my shortcut is

C:\games\Half-Life\hl.exe -game ns -noipx -nointro -console

And when i try to join a game it says not installed, but when i go through cs it works..

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
I need a cs server for my clan too, sponsor shut mine down :mad:

BTW my shortcut is

C:\games\Half-Life\hl.exe -game ns -noipx -nointro -console

And when i try to join a game it says not installed, but when i go through cs it works..

Hey,

I'll install CS later on once NS is installed and fully set-up with adminMOD. :cool:

Change it to:
C:\SIERRA\Half-Life\hl.exe -game ns -noipx -nojoy -nointro -console -numericping

[is0lized]

NS forums won't send me activation! Grrr


I'm new to NS, where to start?

Also, what is the point of comm, how do you know where to point people? I want to learn how to comm, ect..

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

The point of comm is that he/she has the 'lead' the marines and 'advise' them. He/she must also 'drop' structures down to be build by marines. I'm a pretty damn good comm now but its been a looonnnngggg journey and I have screwed up many times before I become as good as I am now. :p many many times. :biggrin2:

I suggest not comming for about 2-4 weeks and just be a marine and be a comm's helper so to speak as much as possible. You will learn so much. Also, don't gorge for about the same amount of time. Be a gorge guarder and watch what he does while protecting him from pesky marines.

[is0lized]

Using that in the properties does not work..

How does a comm know what to do

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Using that in the properties does not work..

How does a comm know what to do

Hello,

Experience of playing the game.

[is0lized]

Well anyways, editing the shortcut didn't work

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

My NS Server is up. I just got to finish the configuration and then its going to be okay to leave.

66.78.45.251

EDITED: Its online now. Changes will be made in time to make the server better.

[is0lized]

I'm learning.. Fun ;)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
I'm learning.. Fun ;)

Hey,

Are you on the server now?

I'm going on it now if I can :rolleyes:

66.78.45.251:27015

[is0lized]

I wish, tried a few times "connection timed out"

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

I'm just re-starting the server now.
Seems to be issues with joining it. I can connect but it wont load the ready room.

Server load is low.
Ping is low.

There is no reason why I cannot join.
So i'm going to check configurations files.

Let me know if you can join.

[is0lized]

Can't add the ip now, was before and showed title, but couldn't connect

[MN-Carl]

How about now?

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

I'm doing a re-install :(. AdminMOD has corrupted the HL server and when you login it causes it to crash.

EDITED: RE-installed as standard NS. Will be adding ClanMOD soon.

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Yes. It works. :bandit2:

Server IP: 66.78.45.251
Map: NS_Eclipse

Shall be installing ClanMOD soon as AdminMOD doesn't work on red hat linux 7.3 anymore and I can't find a patch yet.

[is0lized]

Can't connect

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

ClanMOD has been installed. Will be testing. Should work now.

Edited: Server is online and set-up.

Latest
Server IP: 66.78.45.251
Status: Online

:classic2: :classic2:

[is0lized]

Works now, add two bots to each side now :)

[conkermaniac]

Originally posted by MN-Carl
half life


Hmm..."Half Life"...sounds like something that I would have once perceived to be a game. In fact, I might have it - is it the game upon which Counterstrike was based?

After taking Chemistry, every time I hear the term "half-life", I think of radioactive decay. :p

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Yes, counterstrike is a HL Mod as is Natural Selection.

Well I was on for quite a bit. It was be used. Usually 2 vs 2 though. I'm going to put 2 bots on the server for now if possible. I have also put new maps on the server and will be beta testing them.

Performance was amazing, the majority of people got <30.

[is0lized]

Cool, i would love to play versus bots to learn

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

Well I was playing 1 vs 1 so Daniel could learn how to be a good alien.... he did pretty well when more people joined. Did very well as an marine. Just needs to learn how to handle fades and just general gameplay then he is sorted. He has the shooting bit down to a tee.

Anyhow. I'm going on now. See you on?

[is0lized]

Fun, don't like alien so much :(

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Fun, don't like alien so much :(

Hey,

Alien is fun on a busy server.
Hopefully will be able to have games like 8 vs 8 on my server. Anyhow, I think you can go onto a normal server now >_<.

Try. Voorgu, thats usually busy. 22 max. So 11 vs 11. :cool:

[is0lized]

What connection do you have

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
What connection do you have

Hey,

The server or me?

[is0lized]

I thought you hosted the server? Also, lets play i want to test marine

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
I thought you hosted the server? Also, lets play i want to test marine

Hey,

Its my server yes but its not hosted on my personal pc. The server is located in New Jersey, USA in a data-center. My computer is located in my house in the UK. :D I have 56k and the server has 100Mbit/s ethernet to a switch.... :cool:

Edited: I'm on now waiting for you to join.

[is0lized]

Boo! Your server crashed

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Boo! Your server crashed

Hey,

Its back it. Must have been a minor issue.
I shall be closing down HL for a bit while I perform maintainence on the server and edit some configuration files. I shall be changing the current "stuck" program to move within 2 seconds instead of the current 10.

Edited: Maintaince took an estimate 30 seconds.

[is0lized]

Good, and we were in a good game, and i switched to aliens... Sucks it crashed

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Good, and we were in a good game, and i switched to aliens... Sucks it crashed

Hey,

Yes. I'm getting <210 pings now. :cool: I wont be able to test the game and changes made for a bit. I'll try and make time for a couple of minutes to see if the 2 second rule now applies.

Edit: I had a quick look to test the /stuck plugin. It does move you if you are not moving and stuck within 2 seconds. Pings are really good now and the server is very smooth. No doubt there will be new issues to fixed once I install new plugins in time.

[is0lized]

Want to play some more when you get done?

[Daniel]

Originally posted by MN-Carl


Well I was playing 1 vs 1 so Daniel could learn how to be a good alien.... he did pretty well when more people joined. Did very well as an marine. Just needs to learn how to handle fades and just general gameplay then he is sorted. He has the shooting bit down to a tee.


I so owned you the first few times. :D

NS is a fun game, the concept is cool, but it's just totally weird... CS and NS don't mix, I can tell you that..

[is0lized]

I own CS and i don't think of NS and CS at the same time...

I play Starcraft and NS is like a live action SC

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized
I own CS and i don't think of NS and CS at the same time...


Hey maybe one of these days, my clan can scrim yours.

[is0lized]

My clan is on hold, the members left after the server got shutdown :(

[Daniel]

Ok..

My clan is still going strong.

www.drunkmonkeys.net - 3 servers, east/west and priv.

East: 146.20.90.190:27015
West: 66.111.38.70:27015

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
I so owned you the first few times. :D

NS is a fun game, the concept is cool, but it's just totally weird... CS and NS don't mix, I can tell you that..

In your dreams only. I said you did okay.... you have a long time until you get to anywhere near owning me..... sad really :cool2:
I have been playing this game pretty much everyday since 1.03.

For example. Before you left. I killed you so easily as fade. You have to learn how to live a bit longer and that your suppost to try and kill fades.....
:biggrin2:

[is0lized]

Dan, i thought you ran oc-clan

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized
Dan, i thought you ran oc-clan

That was a long time ago. We only had 3 members, no server, etc.

[Dean]

Put a 1942 server up!

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Phyxisus
Put a 1942 server up!

Already 2 servers on that machine + httpd, cpanel, ftpd, etc.

And bf1942 is a resource hogger.

[is0lized]

You got 3 servers, plus took carl's, and my clan got none ;)

Oh well, one day

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized
You got 3 servers, plus took carl's, and my clan got none ;)

Oh well, one day

Actually, we only got 2 servers now.

1 east(Carl's), 1 west(my UCG server, no one plays on it).

If you want, I can let you use my west server if you want it.

[MN-Carl]

Hey,

Your server Daniel actually has some poeple on it :eek:



24/7 - DrunkMonkeys.net Tavern - STATS!|224ms|66.78.45.251:27016
-----------------------------------------------
Missile Command + Siege 24/7 NS Server (1.04)|229ms|66.78.45.251:27015

[Dean]

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>ping 66.78.45.251

Pinging 66.78.45.251 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.78.45.251: bytes=32 time=961ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.78.45.251: bytes=32 time=701ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.78.45.251: bytes=32 time=429ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.78.45.251: bytes=32 time=840ms TTL=238

Ping statistics for 66.78.45.251:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 429ms, Maximum = 961ms, Average = 732ms

C:\>tracert 66.78.45.251

Tracing route to 66.78.45.251 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 587 ms 678 ms 666 ms my.modem.com
2 641 ms 678 ms 989 ms core2-loopback-0.Hobart.netspace.net.au [203.17.
101.26]
3 1132 ms 1065 ms 1008 ms 500.Serial0-0-0.GW1.HBA1.ALTER.NET [203.166.93.1
77]
4 946 ms 1096 ms 890 ms 101.at-6-0-0.XR2.MEL1.ALTER.NET [210.80.33.65]
5 942 ms 968 ms 1050 ms so-0-0-1.XR1.SYD4.ALTER.NET [210.80.33.17]
6 870 ms 938 ms 861 ms 0.SO-3-0-0.TR2.SYD4.ALTER.NET [210.80.51.73]
7 1069 ms 1236 ms 668 ms 0.so-3-0-0.IR1.LAX12.Alter.Net [210.80.49.157]
8 239 ms 497 ms 299 ms POS3-0.IR1.LAX9.ALTER.NET [137.39.31.226]
9 970 ms 1040 ms 735 ms 0.so-4-1-0.TL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.118]
10 1133 ms 826 ms 762 ms 0.so-3-1-0.TL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.130]
11 469 ms 684 ms 794 ms 0.so-3-1-0.XL2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.21.17]
12 509 ms 647 ms 726 ms 509.ATM7-0.GW12.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.73]
13 454 ms 798 ms 727 ms internap-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.50.86]
14 1066 ms 798 ms 820 ms border29.ge2-1-bbnet2.nyc.pnap.net [209.191.128.
164]
15 1038 ms 782 ms 808 ms virtualdevelop-1.border29.nyc.pnap.net [216.223.
47.94]
16 593 ms 696 ms 776 ms so-0-1-0-0.core-01-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.246]

17 554 ms 700 ms 724 ms gi-49-502.colo-03-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.139]
18 435 ms 730 ms 700 ms 66.78.45.130
19 486 ms 728 ms 666 ms 66.78.45.251

Trace complete.

C:\>

2 Downloads, 1 upload @ 7k each in progress at time of test

[is0lized]

Doesn't matter daniel, my clan died after losing my server, the *two* members i had left, one (tandoc) left cause the pings weren't too great since he's from Australia

[Daniel]

Originally posted by MN-Carl
Hey,

Your server Daniel actually has some poeple on it :eek:

I know a way to make maaaaaaany people come. :biggrin2:

Warcraft3 mod. :)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Phyxisus

C:\>tracert 66.78.45.251

Tracing route to 66.78.45.251 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 587 ms 678 ms 666 ms my.modem.com
2 641 ms 678 ms 989 ms core2-loopback-0.Hobart.netspace.net.au [203.17.
101.26]
3 1132 ms 1065 ms 1008 ms 500.Serial0-0-0.GW1.HBA1.ALTER.NET [203.166.93.1
77]
4 946 ms 1096 ms 890 ms 101.at-6-0-0.XR2.MEL1.ALTER.NET [210.80.33.65]
5 942 ms 968 ms 1050 ms so-0-0-1.XR1.SYD4.ALTER.NET [210.80.33.17]
6 870 ms 938 ms 861 ms 0.SO-3-0-0.TR2.SYD4.ALTER.NET [210.80.51.73]
7 1069 ms 1236 ms 668 ms 0.so-3-0-0.IR1.LAX12.Alter.Net [210.80.49.157]
8 239 ms 497 ms 299 ms POS3-0.IR1.LAX9.ALTER.NET [137.39.31.226]
9 970 ms 1040 ms 735 ms 0.so-4-1-0.TL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.0.118]
10 1133 ms 826 ms 762 ms 0.so-3-1-0.TL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.10.130]
11 469 ms 684 ms 794 ms 0.so-3-1-0.XL2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.21.17]
12 509 ms 647 ms 726 ms 509.ATM7-0.GW12.NYC4.ALTER.NET [152.63.22.73]
13 454 ms 798 ms 727 ms internap-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.50.86]
14 1066 ms 798 ms 820 ms border29.ge2-1-bbnet2.nyc.pnap.net [209.191.128.
164]
15 1038 ms 782 ms 808 ms virtualdevelop-1.border29.nyc.pnap.net [216.223.
47.94]
16 593 ms 696 ms 776 ms so-0-1-0-0.core-01-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.246]

17 554 ms 700 ms 724 ms gi-49-502.colo-03-teb.adcip.net [66.78.63.139]
18 435 ms 730 ms 700 ms 66.78.45.130
19 486 ms 728 ms 666 ms 66.78.45.251

Trace complete.

C:\>

2 Downloads, 1 upload @ 7k each in progress at time of test

Yes. Latency starts from the off due to your downloading. Nothing wrong with the server. :)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
I know a way to make maaaaaaany people come. :biggrin2:

Warcraft3 mod. :)

Hmmm Warcraft3 mod?

[Daniel]

http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620

Very, very, popular thing. It's a little awkward than tradition style of play but since the server is a pub anyhow. :)

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
http://amxmod.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5620

Very, very, popular thing. It's a little awkward than tradition style of play but since the server is a pub anyhow. :)

Have you added it?

[Daniel]

Not yet...

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
Not yet...

Well. My VDS is full. So, put it on your server. :p

[is0lized]

That looks fun, tell me when you install it

[Daniel]

Already? Damn...do hl logs really take up that much space??!!

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
Already? Damn...do hl logs really take up that much space??!!

Hey,

no... not actual space --> resources. NS takes up $hit loads of resources. I'm only using a VDS remember --> Not dedicated. I have a 24 player NS server and 18 player CS server. Enough is enough :) I may have to reduce my NS server down a bit due to some lag on the 2 big maps I run... with full teams and lots of mines/grenades/acid and so forth....

[Dean]

Iam waiting for the day for firewire based gaming [like sharezaa not central server]
CURRENT GAMING:



User User User User
\ \ / /
\ | | /
\----------------SERVER-----------------/

PHYGAMING[tm]


User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--> User <--

[is0lized]

What do you man by firewire gaming Phyxisus?

[Daniel]

Everyone will have to be connected via firewire I guess.

Only problem is that it'll be a ----- to play against someone in a different province/state.

Carl, I understand..doesn't really matter, most of the members in my clan doesn't want it...

I'm going to install it on my other server though.

[is0lized]

Well, why not use the standard old lan instead of firewall?

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized
Well, why not use the standard old lan instead of firewall?

It's pretty much the same concept any how.

Just won't need a powerful computer to serve as a server...but imagine how hard would it be to administrate the game. :eek:

[is0lized]

Why would it be hard?

And if you connect via lan, you don't need a server?

[Daniel]

Through firewall it'll be hard because everyone shares the game load equally...

Now with lan, you do need a central server to play on...

[is0lized]

Just disable the firewall, and stop net in

[MN-Carl]

Hello,

My NS server is down due to server issues. I'm in the process of trying to make arrangements for a dedicated however its not that easy or cheap. :(

[is0lized]

$50 for a 16 person a month for cs...

What do you use now? Thought it was a dedicated with two "servers" on it

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized


What do you use now? Thought it was a dedicated with two "servers" on it

It was...

However, the server he was using was only for testing for someone or something. Thus after the testing, he no longer has the server.

[is0lized]

Ah, i see :)


How many servers can you run on one machine?

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Ah, i see :)


How many servers can you run on one machine?

Hello,

There is no limit per say. It depends on the specs. My server is back up. However i'm just going to run NS on it. I have a lot of testing to do.

[is0lized]

I'm just thinking of the dedicated game business

[Daniel]

For dedicated gameserver hosting, you'll need the minimum of a DUAL processor machine and loads of RAM and a server located on a low latency network.

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
For dedicated gameserver hosting, you'll need the minimum of a DUAL processor machine and loads of RAM and a server located on a low latency network.

Hello,

Yes. I suggest

Dual P3 1GHz, 2GB RAM as reasonable spec. :)

[is0lized]

I'm just curious how many game "servers" you can support on one of em

[Daniel]

Depends..

I've seen Dual AMD Athlon MP 2000+, 1.5gb DDR PC2100 ECC RAM, and some SCSI harddrives handle over 100 players.

[is0lized]

Wow, thats not bad, If they charge $3 per player, that's $300 minus whatever costs are..

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Wow, thats not bad, If they charge $3 per player, that's $300 minus whatever costs are..

Hmmm

Your looking at around $299/mo+ for a dual xeon 2ghz, 1-2gb ddr, 2x120gb or 2x73gb scsi, 1000gb+ transfer from rackshack. Excluding setup. :)

[Daniel]

The Xeons are ok for gameservers, but the MP's are much much better.

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by Daniel
The Xeons are ok for gameservers, but the MP's are much much better.

That very much depends. Its like saying Cogent is okay for mass downloading. :biggrin2:

[is0lized]

Well, the game business doesn't seem like a good market unless you have tons of customers

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Well, the game business doesn't seem like a good market unless you have tons of customers

Yeah --> or onces willing to pay reasonable fees.

I would say the following structure would suit:

Public :
$0.50 per GB usage
150-200GB per 18 server.
$0.50 * 150 = $75/mo
$299 / 5 = $59.80
$75 + $59.80 = $134.80

Note: That depends on the game, cpu usage of the server deamon and also bandwidth usage of each user. Remember that excludes staff and any extras. :)

[Daniel]

In any case, I've turned my West Coast UCG server into a 24/7 Aim Maps only server. It's getting really good traffic now. :)

66.111.38.70:27015 :)

[is0lized]

What do you mean by "aim" maps?

Also, what maps does it have so i can download them, since downloading them from the server is slow

[Daniel]

http://www.drunkmonkeys.net/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=6

Unzip that into your maps directory.

Aim maps are basically maps that test your aiming ability.

They are usually very small maps and you need to aim fast and shoot to stay alive.

You will see if you play on my server. :)

[is0lized]

Thanks, i'll take a look some time later, when are you on there?

[Daniel]

Originally posted by is0lized
Thanks, i'll take a look some time later, when are you on there?

When there's people on...

[is0lized]

What time range is that?

[Daniel]

Usually during the day...

[is0lized]

Well, that was a great time frame ;)

I'll see what i can do :)

[is0lized]

Server still up?

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Server still up?

Which server :confused:

[is0lized]

NS

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
NS

Yes but its screwed up big time. :(

[is0lized]

How? WHy not re install it?

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
How? WHy not re install it?

Well.... it doesn't matter. :)

[is0lized]

Why not? :(

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
Why not? :(

When 1.1 comes out I may move it to a new server. :)

[is0lized]

When is 1.1 coming out?

[MN-Carl]

Originally posted by is0lized
When is 1.1 coming out?

No ETA :(

[is0lized]

So just reinstall?

BTW, what's wrong?

[Weirds]

My cousin brought it to me several days ago. Never actually tried it, but he said he's cool.

[is0lized]

Not bad, like 3d starcraft :)