MySQL for vBulliten or phpBB...

[Itwasthatwas]

Is there a free host with a MySQL database and PHP4 that has enough DB Space for a very large vBulliten or phpBB?

Don't mention Datablocks or F2S, or freesql.org. I tried them, but F2S has too little DB Space, Datablocks keeps saying my account doesn't exist, and I had no clue what to do with freesql.org, since they didn't give me any data on my account when I signed up...

Thanks...

[Omari]

get any php host and use freesql.org for the mysql, i do it for my blaze board

[Coolin]

Originally posted by Omari
get any php host and use freesql.org for the mysql, i do it for my blaze board Didn't he just say that he didn't want anyone to recommend freesql.org?

[Omari]

Originally posted by Coolin

Originally posted by Omari
get any php host and use freesql.org for the mysql, i do it for my blaze board Didn't he just say that he didn't want anyone to recommend freesql.org?

i just read the topic

[Coolin]

Perhaps reading the message would be helpful, wouldn't it? ;)

[LeX]

Omari, since you've had something setup up successfuly at freesql.org, maybe you should teach Itwasthatwas how to use it?

[Coolin]

ItwasThatwas wants a large board. Freesql.org won't support that in both speed and capacity.

[Omari]

all i did was created a database and put my username, password, and database name in the script, along with http://www.freesqlorg as the host... i didn't have to create tables or anything, if i did i would have been lost too

[Omari]

Originally posted by Coolin
ItwasThatwas wants a large board. Freesql.org won't support that in both speed and capacity.

damn.. every time i get close somthing goes wrong... now that i'm almost done with my site you're tellin me that i won't be able to run a big forum? dang...

how many people/post/members do you think freesql.org can handle at once? i hope i don't have to switch man... mysql is hard to find and i'm really "diggin" this blazeboard...

[Omari]

by the way, blazeboard has this processing speed thing at the bottom of almost every page, i get some pretty good speeds...

[Coolin]

Blazeboard? Fast? That's new, from what I've seen, Blazeboard is much less optimized than phpBB.

[Omari]

Originally posted by Coolin
Blazeboard? Fast? That's new, from what I've seen, Blazeboard is much less optimized than phpBB.

what do you consider fast?

[Omari]

Swap Status

Total: Usage: %
Used: 8124 3%
Free: 256908 kB 97%


that means i have 257 megs of bandwidth with freesql.org right?

[Coolin]

Originally posted by Omari
what do you consider fast?
I consider this pretty fast:

phpBB Created this page in 0.049518 seconds.

I got that off of the PHP support forums. What's Blazeboard's speed?

[Omari]

Originally posted by Coolin

Originally posted by Omari
what do you consider fast?
I consider this pretty fast:

phpBB Created this page in 0.049518 seconds.

I got that off of the PHP support forums. What's Blazeboard's speed?

some times .9 seconds, some times 1.5 seconds...

[Coolin]

You see, that's much slower than phpBB.

[Omari]

less than a second, it's doesn't take long or anything, i like the way blazeboard looks over phpbb

[Zef Hemel]

Yes blazeboard is very feature richt (bloated really), but it's speed isn't the best. Last time I've checked on their servers like .5 secs or so. Well vBulletin got them (for topics) of about .3 so.

[Omari]

Originally posted by Zef Hemel
Yes blazeboard is very feature richt (bloated really), but it's speed isn't the best. Last time I've checked on their servers like .5 secs or so. Well vBulletin got them (for topics) of about .3 so.

you're telling me that half of a second is slow? come on now, you must be very impateint

[Zef Hemel]

It's relativily slow. It's more the server than the client I'm concerned about. :)

[Coolin]

That 0.5 seconds could turn into 10 seconds if you are on a slow server and have a lot of members. So efficiency is very important.

[Xanthis]

I just want to jump in here for a moment. . . :) If you look at the numbers of seconds to produce a page, it's quite wrong for each board due to the fact that each board places the start times and the end times in different positions of the script in which to calculate.

phpBB calculates top header to the bottom footer, but they do all the initialization before the timing starts. Blazeboard doesn't really have initializations other than to load up the include.php3 file and intializes the colors through the foruminfo().

If you want to measure the speed, use Apache's AB benchmarking utility.

Another issue you have to consider is support for GZIP, the ability to compress HTML output. 56kers such as myself will notice much difference in speed. Example of gzip based compression in Blazeboard: http://turkce.zurna.com/bb & http://www.techdevelopers.com/board

Right now, take into these considerations:

How much money will you be willing to spend?
vB has been in the biz longer and have a good number of great vB hackers working on v2.0. phpBB will be slow to roll out v2, possibly as long as a few months. They aren't feeded by $$$, so don't expect much from it. However, it's GPL so you'll get benefits from the GPL stand point. Blazeboard, well, bbhacks.com isn't doing too great of a job keeping it up. It's quite hard for another programmer to pick up where I left off since it was still "BETA" and I didn't do much commenting since I felt I was going todo that during the final release (never happened).

Speed wise:
phpBB is fastest, but keep in mind, how many features do they have? Once they start adding in the features, they will be as slow as vB and BlazeBoard. Currently I do not agree with them regarding the use of templates (v2) and the libary they picked. They are adding logic operations into the templates which will slow the compilation considerably.
However, it's their choice.

Features:
Blazeboard boasts more features, but originally, I plan to add the features first then add them into the control panel to turn them off/on (never happened).
vB has a number of features as well as hacks, but the commercial price tag sets this software apart from the free ones.
phpBB doesn't have many features and won't be until 2.0 is out. The CVS respitory shows much files are growing old, so it's hard to say how long it will be before 2.0 is out.

The more features a forum has, the longer a page takes to compile. There are more querying and logical expressions before a page can be presented. The speeds cannot be compared unless you start the timer at the absolute beginning and the end rather than just stick it after the init part started.

In closing, after reading this thread and noticing the subject of this site, I'm pretty sure you won't go forth with vB and likely those who seek free hosting probably don't get as much traffic and won't really need a very optimize board at the moment. I can't say when BlazeBoard GPL will fail, but I bet it can handle about 20-25 users simulatneous dependent on hardware. :)

I've tested my very optimized BlazeBoard (non public) powering mycool.com and it's capable of handling 100,000 posts. ;) All it needs is a good programmer to buff it up. . .

[dony]

i tried phpbb.
didnt know about his speed.
but vbuletine was faster than phpbb.