View Full Version : Matrix Revolutions = Sack of ----
Blank Verse
November 7th, 2003, 14:06
I saw it yesterday. What a horrible movie. There was nothing about it that made it a Matrix movie. I'm not gonna spoil it for those of you that still want to see it, but damn, it was bad. There was only one scene that comes to memory that makes it at all Matrix-y. Sure, there was a lot of cool effects, but it looked exactly like every other major film with special effects. The thing that made the first one so great was that it was different - they introduced bullet time, Matrix rules like running on the walls and stuff....there was none of that in this movie.
Smith was great, as always, I've always felt he was the best character in the entire trilogy, but he wasn't in it nearly enough.
Anyway, that's my rant for the day. As far as I'm concerned, the Matrix ends after the first movie.
Robert
November 7th, 2003, 14:15
From my understanding, the plot sucks but the effects are great.
Blank Verse
November 7th, 2003, 14:28
Yeah, the effects were great, but they were so generic. It could have been any other movie. That was the thing about the original Matrix. All the effects were so new and so cool that everyone had to rip them off.
Daniel
November 7th, 2003, 14:55
I like the shootout outside of the elevator...kinda the opposite of the first one. :D
MATRIX
November 7th, 2003, 15:44
Originally posted by Daniel
I like the shootout outside of the elevator...kinda the opposite of the first one. :D
Yeah, but I like the Part when Neo wants to get out from the Train station but he tries to get out via the train Rail and he end running in Circles and says "----" lol :biggrin2:
Or when Xion is Attacked :P
Fuzzylogic
November 7th, 2003, 20:26
i can't say i was disspointed by the film, i just believe there was alot of places that didn't end even though this is the last film in the matrix series (unless they plan to make some spin-offs or something). On the light side there was some interesting parts, including the fight between agent smith and neo and as above the fight at the elevator.
Gayowulf
November 7th, 2003, 20:34
theater popcorn is a sack of ----.
and not metaphorically as the above statement may imply.
TRUNKS
November 7th, 2003, 20:36
Smith rocks :D
You know the guy that acts as him also played one of the three drag queens in that Priscilla - Queen of the Desert thing. Im yet to see THAT. :P Maybe later.
tandoc
November 7th, 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by Robert
From my understanding, the plot sucks but the effects are great.
i thought that rule was established in reloaded :biggrin2:
tandoc
November 7th, 2003, 20:41
was ne1 awake when persephone started stripping? or was that the pr0n version :glasses2: :glasses2: :glasses2: :banana:
Toefur
November 7th, 2003, 22:16
If the only things positive one can find to say about a movie is about it's effects or fight scenes, then it's really got to be a ----ing pile of absolute ----.
I didn't like the first two either, though.
Kaliber
November 7th, 2003, 22:21
I liked the movie, those were without a doubt the best effects I have ever seen, nothing even rivals it. The plot was a little gone though, and the ending really sucked, what happened to neo?
Matrix rules like running on the walls and stuff....there was none of that in this movie.There was, firstly in the elevator scene. Also I remember trinity doing a bullet time kick. Also the BEST shot in the movie was when neo punched smith, and they did the bullet time thing. That was so well done.
People, of course this movie cannot be as good as the original, i give the original a perfect 10. This movie was however, good compared to the crap we are seeing come out these days.
Don't bag it to much, the fight scenes were breathtaking, there was a storyline but it got a bit woody at the end, like they ran out of dialog.
I recommend you see it, good movie.
nightcrawler
November 8th, 2003, 12:32
I say the matrix ended with part 1. The others just for some timepass with cool effects.
LeX
November 8th, 2003, 13:30
Somebody told me that he thought it must've been greatly influenced by Dragonball.
I haven't seen it for myself yet.
Gayowulf
November 8th, 2003, 16:55
Originally posted by LeX
Somebody told me that he thought it must've been greatly influenced by Dragonball.
That settles it. I'm not going near a theatre playing the matrix. not even to see Brother Bear.
awayfromforum
November 8th, 2003, 16:57
Originally posted by LeX
Somebody told me that he thought it must've been greatly influenced by Dragonball.
I haven't seen it for myself yet.
The 2nd and 3rd movies were both heavily inspired by japanese anime.
Toefur
November 8th, 2003, 19:50
Come on... anime is more pleasant than that crap.
TRUNKS
November 8th, 2003, 19:58
Theres one thing that bothers me...do they actually have a REASON for trying to get out of the Matrix? I mean...lifes gonna be just like it is today for us...I suppose its their pride. :P
And also...how quickly did they build those giant machines and stuff?! For the air and the water and everything...Reloaded was a few years after, right?! Surely they couldnt have done it in that amount of time...
Kaliber
November 9th, 2003, 03:47
Originally posted by TRUNKS
Theres one thing that bothers me...do they actually have a REASON for trying to get out of the Matrix? I mean...lifes gonna be just like it is today for us...I suppose its their pride. :PI would say freedom had something to do with it.
Why do you all hate it so much, god damn. You expect to much.
tandoc
November 9th, 2003, 05:41
If you're gunna create a huge hype, start a craze/fad, the people can only expect too much, its their role in a fad...
and don't bag anime, its cool.
although i ruined my matrix experience before i saw the movie. i was reading a list of 'matrix theories' of what wuld happen in the 3rd one.. it turns out neo is connected to the source, and can enter the matrix with his mind
Canuckkev
November 9th, 2003, 10:52
Originally posted by TRUNKS
And also...how quickly did they build those giant machines and stuff?! For the air and the water and everything...Reloaded was a few years after, right?! Surely they couldnt have done it in that amount of time...
Well...the city of Zion (I saw someone spell Xion, is that really the correct way?) existed for presumably hundreds of years...so that should be enough time. I guess it existed however long it takes 7 men + 16 women to multiply to 250 000.
And I haven't seen the third one. I will, eventually.
nightcrawler
November 9th, 2003, 12:06
Zion is right. I saw in many other sites, addressing it as Zion.
cbp
November 9th, 2003, 17:34
Originally posted by Canuckkev
Well...the city of Zion (I saw someone spell Xion, is that really the correct way?) existed for presumably hundreds of years...so that should be enough time. I guess it existed however long it takes 7 men + 16 women to multiply to 250 000.
Actually if you have seen Animatrix and Matrix 2 you would know what has really happened.
Those machines existed there for maybe thousands of years (no more radioactive effects from the nuclear wars that followed the rise of the machines. Seems awfully similar to the terminator LOL), and the inhabitants don't know anything about those machines (how they work, how to fix, and even less how to build)
The thing is that with that battle most of the machines (those that make food and water) were most likely destroyed so even if the creator/designer of the matrix leaves them alone they will most likely die as they increase in numbers. Also they have no more ships and almost no robots to defend against an attack. So they're dead. I'll be really surprised if they get another trilogy or show on the way.
tandoc
November 10th, 2003, 02:51
i just saw it, and i found it to be pretty good.
my only complaint how anime-like it is, i mean, come on, mechs, and flying in a fight
TRUNKS
November 10th, 2003, 03:14
flying in a flight?
tandoc
November 10th, 2003, 03:31
lol, typo.
edited.
Kaliber
November 10th, 2003, 07:27
I don't get it, the mechs were grounded the entire time
Blank Verse
November 10th, 2003, 09:36
he's talking about the not so well done fight scene between Neo and Smith.
Robert
November 10th, 2003, 09:41
I just saw it.
Here is my review:
The first Matrix reinvented the way special effects are composed in a movie. While the plot in the first movie wasn't the best, the fighting scenes made up the for it.
The 2nd Matrix was very good. I honestly believe most of us liked it mainly because we waited so long for it to be release. Again, the fighting scenes are way entertained me (ie. Neo and the Agents in the park, Neo and the chinese dude).
The third movie had a horrible plot and not as good as affects as the first 2. Sort of looked like they just "made" the movie to give it a end. I was actually getting sleeping towards the end. It was also always "dark" and made it hard to see at times.
2 Thumbs Down!
LeX
November 10th, 2003, 11:32
Originally posted by Robert
The 2nd Matrix was very good. I honestly believe most of us liked it mainly because we waited so long for it to be release. Again, the fighting scenes are way entertained me (ie. Neo and the Agents in the park, Neo and the chinese dude). Personally, I found the second episode to be extremely disappointing. Nothing new and original... I know we can't expect that from every new movie, but still... The worst the um-what-plot. Too much seemingly deep philosophic long talks that don't really make any sense or put any point across. At the end, after being confused for so long, you're left hanging even more confused then you were before seeing it. So then, you're tempted to pay to go see the ending episode. Which is what I'm going to do this weekend.
Canuckkev
November 10th, 2003, 11:50
I think that sums it up for me too Lex. I want to see it, but I know I will not like it.
Robert
November 10th, 2003, 11:54
Originally posted by LeX
Personally, I found the second episode to be extremely disappointing. Nothing new and original... I know we can't expect that from every new movie, but still... The worst the um-what-plot. Too much seemingly deep philosophic long talks that don't really make any sense or put any point across. At the end, after being confused for so long, you're left hanging even more confused then you were before seeing it. So then, you're tempted to pay to go see the ending episode. Which is what I'm going to do this weekend.
But it had action, lots of fight scenes, the highway scene, the park scene, etc.
The 3rd one didn't.
LeX
November 10th, 2003, 11:56
It's LeX. :p
Yeah, well, I guess there are ways to see it without spending money... ;) But I agreed to go with a couple of friends, so what the heck. At least the seat at the theater is more comfortable than my computer chair. Plus you get to criticize it with 'em.
LeX
November 10th, 2003, 11:59
Originally posted by Robert
But it had action, lots of fight scenes, the highway scene, the park scene, etc.
The 3rd one didn't. You mean to tell me the last episode isn't action-packed?? :mad:
Funnily, I didn't think the 2nd one was action-packed. Must've had something to do with all the talking.
Robert
November 10th, 2003, 12:58
Originally posted by LeX
You mean to tell me the last episode isn't action-packed?? :mad:
Funnily, I didn't think the 2nd one was action-packed. Must've had something to do with all the talking.
I dont want to spoil it for you. So I won't say nuttin.
Gayowulf
November 10th, 2003, 13:41
as always Maddox sums it up quite well:
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=matrix3
tandoc
November 11th, 2003, 00:40
well the theme for the three movies..
1st: (re)birth
2nd: life
3rd: death
i was expecting it to be a little more dark and gloomy
Mayhem
November 11th, 2003, 02:36
the last 45 minutes are dark and gloomy. I DO NOT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT PEICE OF ---- ANY LONGER!!
tandoc
November 11th, 2003, 03:14
What is our purpose?
To waste coutless amounts of money watching the Matrix trilogy.
Kaliber
November 11th, 2003, 03:16
I found this image (http://maddox.xmission.com/matrix_question_tot1.gif) halarious.
tandoc
November 11th, 2003, 03:33
FFS, Keanu is the hero once more, now as a comic book hero:
Constantine
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0360486/
TRUNKS
November 11th, 2003, 22:15
I DID think "I know because I need to know" and "I am here because it is my purpose" was indeed the worst possible storyline-ness :P
Chroder
November 11th, 2003, 23:07
I just came back from it. I was disappointed with it... I wanted to see more computer hackup code neo kick---- scenes, but it was all chit-chat and zion scenes.
Not bad though.
Hobo
November 13th, 2003, 08:54
The Trilogies
I hope you guys all realize by now that the 3 spoiled trilogies are all connected. Here's how it goes:
A Saga Begins...
Terminator 1, 2, and 3 are during our time in the end of 3 you see how the nuclear war begins and all the people die except for John Conner and that one chick. At this point the machines have taken over.
Enter the Matrix
The Matrix 1, 2, and 3 the machines have destroyed almost all human forces and are now harvesting them for energy at this point. Then Colonel Sanders (the architect) and Aunt Jemima (The Oracle) decide to shake things up.
The remaining humans, John Conner's children have started the city of Zion. One day John was bored so he made up the story of the One to amuse his kids, and since he pretty much fathered humanity the story got a cult following. The humans, rebel forces at this point, conduct skirmishes on the machines that are committing genocide on these left over groups. Inside and outside of the matrix the machines are unstoppable, with the exception of the pesky humans.
Remembering their predecessors the machines realize it is time to destroy the resistance. Unlike the people of the past though, they are not retarded in the fact that they do not try to go back in time to stop the future. Instead they eradicate the problem in the present by tunneling into Zion.
However, their perfect program has a flaw. Like the terminator of earlier days, the machines can't seem to get it right; one of their systems has a flaw, Agent Smith. He takes over the Matrix capturing all its power, and the humans and the machines must unite to destroy him.
The One
This is a turning point in the story because once again humans and machines are set as equals. Neo goes to the machine city and is "Plugged into the matrix" by the machines. After hearing the words of the oracle through Smith he realizes that to destroy Smith he must sacrifice himself. Allowing Smith to absorb him lets the machines delete the Smith Program, since Neo and the Source are connected. Since all the Smiths are connected as well destroying one destroys them all.
Use the Force
In the same galaxy (Contrary to popular belief) aliens are mad. The broadcast of Friends that has been reaching them for the last 5 years (TV signals travel surely but slowly through space) has finally stopped in mid episode. Using their superior technology they see what the hold up is on the planet of Earth. Entering through the darkness the first person they encounter is Morpheus who, realizing that he can finish the machines, tells them that they stopped the broadcast. The aliens wipe out the machines and Morpheus using his talents from Pee-Wee's playhouse acts out a quick finish to Friends.
The humans are left alone for thousands of years until one of them uncovers the book Matilida. They leaf through it and see that they can control things with their mind. The Council of the Matrix times is revived, but is now the Jedi Council who use this "Force" to their advantage. The Jedi are born.
Star Wars has never really interested me that much but as far as I can tell the Jedi split into two groups, good and bad. The good Jedi fight these bad Jedi as shown in the horrible Phantom Menace. The bad Jedi however, have a surprise, their leader is forming an empire, an unstoppable force. This is shown in the beginning of the Phantom Menace and illustrated more in the Clone Wars. However it is the Rebels (Good Jedi) who inspire the future storm troopers with their own clone troopers.
The War Begins
The clone troopers however are controlled by the soon to be Emperor. He is the master of the Dark Side and uses these troops to destroy all forces. The empire begins and the Jedi slowly die out to the hordes of evil commandos. It seems as though nothing can stop the Empire.
The Force is Strong in This One
Enter Luke Skywalker, son of Darth Vader (Right hand man to the emperor) who in three long movies, assisted by a hairy monster like creature (Han Solo), and another creature Chewbacca he goes out into the world to do something. The Rebels have decided that it is time for a new strategy as opposed to their, current sit and wait for death plan. Luke saves Princess Leia from the clutches of the Empire and then destroys the first Death Star assisted by Han Solo and is crowned a hero.
The Empire Uses a Healing Potion
The Empire is ticked off now. Their newest planet destroyer was destroyed before it even got to be tested. Taking their revenge out on the miniscule Rebel Forces they attack Han. Luke travels one way and Han, Chewie, and the Princess another. The bounty hunter Boba Fett captures Han and delivers him to Darth Vader. Vader freezes Han in liquid Carbonite and returns him to Boba Fett. Han’s body is then given to Jabba the Hut who keeps him as a nice little present. Luke finds out that Darth Vader is his father, loses his hand, and it would seem as though the Empire is going to win after all.
End Game
The story finally ends with Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader killing the emperor, and Darth Vader dying on the second death star (I think). With the Emperor destroyed the Empire crumbles and peace is once again restored to the Galaxy.
Blank Verse
November 13th, 2003, 14:21
you didn't seriously expect me to read all that, did you?
Hobo
November 13th, 2003, 14:47
Originally posted by Blank Verse
you didn't seriously expect me to read all that, did you?
Heh, nah but it's all crap I was out of school today and bored.
tandoc
November 14th, 2003, 01:23
ROTFLMAO
thats some goooood theorizing there
Kaliber
November 14th, 2003, 09:33
I got through the first paragraph and went....uhh. Will I really be any smarter after finishing this. I came to the conclusion of no.
Daniel
November 14th, 2003, 12:08
It seemed intellectually stimulating at first, then it went downhill after the 1st paragraph.
LeX
November 14th, 2003, 12:12
Originally posted by Blank Verse
you didn't seriously expect me to read all that, did you? I did. No comment.
Blank Verse
November 14th, 2003, 13:21
you read it, or expected me to? :confused2
Hobo
November 14th, 2003, 16:45
Wow, I wasn't actually expecting anyone to read it. I got out of scohol becuase it rained and I was bored so I thought I"d type that doozy up........
Also you aren't fooling me I know you secretly read it blank verse. :wink2:
LeX
November 15th, 2003, 10:15
I just watched it today.
I'm more confused than I was before seeing it. I don't like the way it ended. The Oracle's just a big hoax. Neo is weak. The war is a joke. I almost fell asleep when Neo was talking to that Indian dude down at the train station.
It sucks. Like I expected. Oh, well... there goes my 6 bucks.
gastong
November 15th, 2003, 22:08
Originally posted by LeX
Somebody told me that he thought it must've been greatly influenced by Dragonball.
I haven't seen it for myself yet.
Yeeessss!!!. The final fight in the air is just like Dragonball. :biggrin2:
:coolmusic
tandoc
November 15th, 2003, 23:45
i liked it?
not loved it.. but i did enjoy it.. but some bits were a bit slow
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