Is this a BS price?

[Epgs]

Ok,
I know someone who is getting a website designed (this is not an ad, don't send offers or anything) and is being charged $2,000 (not including hosting or domain regsitration). Do you think that is BS for a site such as http://www.charliegoodnights.com/ (That is the style it will follow). I thought it should be quite a bit less than that.

BTW if you are in the Raleigh area that charliegoodnights comedy club usually has some pretty good shows. I go and see them once a month or so, maybe we could get a FWS group together.

[pro5ject]

I would say $2,000 plus if it was designed far nicer. (similar to what I do :D)

But for that quality there, it looks pretty amateurish, so $2,000 does sound alot.

$500 or so. . .

[Dean]

Someones been ripped off...
but ive heard of worse - try $10,000USD for a HTML only site

[7trax]

Originally posted by Phyxisus
Someones been ripped off...
but ive heard of worse - try $10,000USD for a HTML only site

what about the guy that offered to manually redesign yahoo for 25 million. yahoo is an html only site.

[Dean]

Yahoo has Graphics

[Epgs]

What if it looked more like ornamentea.com

[Canuckkev]

People charge $2000 because they can. But I'm sure some kiddie on this forum could create something much better for say $50. You just have to find someone good...

[jmiller]

Originally posted by Canuckkev
People charge $2000 because they can. But I'm sure some kiddie on this forum could create something much better for say $50. You just have to find someone good... I'm pretty sure there's people who would do such a design like that, or even better, for free.

[tandoc]

Are you calling me a kiddie :crying5: :mad: :chinese2:

[jmiller]

Originally posted by tandoc
Are you calling me a kiddie :crying5: :mad: :chinese2: Where did you get that idea?
This is your first post in this thread, so why on earth would you assume he was talking about you?

[sharkbyte]

man that website is crap for $2000!
i would do it for free if i had the time!

[tandoc]

Originally posted by jmiller
Where did you get that idea?
This is your first post in this thread, so why on earth would you assume he was talking about you?

It was a joke. :)

[Robert]

Tell your friend I'll do the same design and concept for a cheaper price.. say $1,999.99. :D

[MATRIX]

Originally posted by Robert
Tell your friend I'll do the same design and concept for a cheaper price.. say $1,999.99. :D

lol...

Get a Template Made for $25 :P

[trenzterra]

Originally posted by Phyxisus
Yahoo has Graphics And there's something called a <img> tag in HTML.

$2000 for that site is bull----. I wouldn't even want that even if its free.

[leamhost.com]

hmmmmm if you think its worth the cost then go fot it.

[Epgs]

I truly didn't think it was worth 2 grand. I just wanted to make sure my cost scope was way out of wack. Yah know i haven't been designing sites for s3everal years now, so I am just glad to hear that I was not the only one who thought it was BS.

[LeX]

Hmm, where do you find these stupid clients? I'd love to hook up with them...

[trenzterra]

So do I. My crappy layout for 5 grand, any takers? :p

[Conscript]

I'd say $750 would be a reasonable price for a site.

There is a lot of competition though and there kiddies who are 14 years old who'll offer to do a site for $25 or $50. That's the problem with the industry, the kids dont need to pay bills so they're happy to spend a few days on a site and get $25 or $50 so they can buy a video game, but us bit older people who have bills to pay simply cannot afford to do that.

But that's what happens in a market where there is too many providers and not enough buyers. There really should be some sort of barrier to entry for people, so that only a few can become web designers. That way we can charge outrageous prices again. :biggrin2:

[Epgs]

Yeah, some sort of union. Theres an idea to tell one of those little kiddies to start a site with. They are always coming here saying I am bored what should I start a site on?

[Conscript]

lol. I think we should have some sort of licensing scheme like Doctors. No one can be a Web Designer without passing a barrage of exams that only truley knowledgeable designers could pass, and they'd cost some money to keep the 12 year old l337 h4x0rz out.

And then a massive media campaign could follow telling businesses that they shouldn't hire any webdesigner that isn't certified by the "Board of Web Design & Development" (or whatever the organization could be called). :applaudin

[Epgs]

Exactly,
I think they tried that with the HTML Writers Guild though.

http://www.hwg.org/resources/html/

[trenzterra]

Then websites will then cost $2000 as demand > supply.

[Conscript]

That's the idea... then web designers could make a decent living again like they used to.

[Agum]

Originally posted by trenzterra
$2000 for that site is bull----. I wouldn't even want that even if its free.

too true. :applaudin

[Agum]

about that licensing stuff...
isn't that just kinda like those microsoft certified technician or something for building computers?
that's such a good idea actually.. if a trend like that can happen, we won't have crappy web designers or even crappy web designing companies making money not because their designs are good, but because they are lucky enough to be able to find clients; whereas some good web designers don't get any jobs because they don't have that luck.

so why isn't this happening still if the HWG has tried that?

[Conscript]

What we need to do is get the government to do something for us. They should make a list of every webdesigner they know and then bust those who are operating without state business licenses. That would probably get rid of about 99% of the kiddies and underground operations and leave only legitimate businesses standing. :applaudin

[Robert]

Originally posted by Conscript
What we need to do is get the government to do something for us. They should make a list of every webdesigner they know and then bust those who are operating without state business licenses. That would probably get rid of about 99% of the kiddies and underground operations and leave only legitimate businesses standing. :applaudin

Uh no.

[Conscript]

Why not?

[notnamed]

Because I'd still be designing websites and passing them along to friends and posting them on OSWD. No, I'm not a 1337 12 year old AOL kiddie, but I don't pay bills and I'd gladly make a design for $80 to get a vB license. But I think it'd be hard for the government to track me down and tell me to stop...and why would they want to? It's too bad for you that some kid can do just as well as you and way undercut your price. Get a real job, pay bills with that, do webdesign on the side. Some people will pay big money for you, because you're you, you're a designer with a good portfolio and big clients. Some kiddie doesn't have that. So. Yeah.

[Conscript]

I got a real job. I sell cell phones. Web Design USED to be a real job, but now its not even a decent part time job.

[trenzterra]

The purpose of the internet is freedom. You're restricting it that way.

[Nymphex]

I dont ever think those lisence stuff will ever come true :) lol Why would the government use their times on tracking down kiddies on designing website, That's like saying.. You're a lil kid and you dont have the "right" to design website You can design and do whatever you want as long as you have the "skill" :).

[Conscript]

lol. Yeah.. it was just an angry rant.. But they do upset me, even though I ain't into the webdesign business no more...

Moving back to the original topic, yeah, I think it's a rip off. You could find a kid to do the site for $20.

[cowax]

Haha someone got screwed

Honestly, didn't the owner think that 2000$ is too much for a design? Did the owner of this site not shop around?

[Nymphex]

The owner is proberly a newbies on the internet or maybe he knows the webdesigner :)

[Canuckkev]

Also, a little kiddie using Photoshop to design...I bet they didn't pay. If pirated software wasn't so easily available, there wouldn't be as many PS kiddies. I'd like to see a decent site designed in Paint.

[sharkbyte]

hmph, that'd be the day :D maybe change paint to gimp and it might be reasonable..

me, im lucky. my dad works as a graphic artist so i get PS and other programs (3dmax,etc) for free occasionally.

and no, im not no kiddie,nor your avg teenager. i started computer stuff around age six, started scripting about 8, and programming about 9. i also have many,many other computer skills at hand, and, just like my dad, am a natural problem solver. please dont doubt or tease me do to my age. just because i am young and use a computer alot doesn't mean im automatically a tech kiddie. thank you for your cooperation.

[Agum]

a decent site designed in paint is easy... just don't use it at all.

a text-based design (with good use of CSS layout, making good use of all the positioning, blocks' colors, borders, and other properties) can be [b]very decent. it can potentially look very professional as well.

[sharkbyte]

yes indeed, you are correct on both.

when he said to design a site in paint, it implied that he would use paint for the whole thing.

i often choose text based designs with abit of CSS, depending on how i feel.