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trenzterra
January 7th, 2004, 07:30
My family is in a ---- financial situation, my parents bring home practically $0 every month, and I was wondering whether I could set up a webby for some $. Besides pr0n, what can I do that can make some bucks?

Dean
January 7th, 2004, 07:38
Porn

trenzterra
January 7th, 2004, 07:42
Originally posted by Phyxisus
Porn Read properly. Besides porn.

Kaliber
January 7th, 2004, 08:39
just get a part time job, the internet will never give what you put in.

Conscript
January 7th, 2004, 08:45
There is absolutley no more reliable, stable, or guaranteed way to make money other than a job. Really, it works.

As far as websites, no matter what idea you go with, without a substantial budget for advertising and/or luck, you won't make that much money. The web really isn't profitable. It's not a matter of "ill make a website and let the bucks roll in". Trust me, go with a job. If you like computers you can probably find a computer tech job somewhere, or go with anything tech related.

Decent jobs, even part time, are out there. Computer Techs at Best Buy get from $12-$15 an hour, which is a hell of a lot more money you'll make hourly on the internet. You can get other part time sales jobs that start at $10 an hour and give you commission.

Think about it, you make a site, put all this time and effort into it, and then get like $50 or $100 in revenue per month from advertisers. And that is if you have really good traffic, like the kind of traffic that you have to pay for.

It sounds like you cannot afford to take a risk with your family finances, so don't. The only sound possibility for you staying unemployed and making money would be to do web design. You'd have to have some luck finding clients though, or connections, cause it's EXTREMLEY difficult, and you're still gonna make less money than a real job because you're going to have to charge like $50 or $100 for a whole site in order to remain competitive (unless you're lucky enough to get a deep pocket client who doesn't know he can get a site for that cheap).

trenzterra
January 7th, 2004, 08:50
Problem is with age and its not easy to find a proper job here. And bleh, I'm not even legal.

Kaliber
January 7th, 2004, 08:54
Better yet, tell your parents to get a damn job.

Conscript
January 7th, 2004, 08:54
How old are you?

Kaliber
January 7th, 2004, 08:56
12 I believe

Conscript
January 7th, 2004, 08:59
Wow. Well in that case do something like mow people lawn's, shovel their snow, wash their cars, etc. If you offer to do people's chores for them for like $5 or $10, you could probably bring in some good money if you work hard enough. It's not going to be enough to support your family, but it'll help you afford things.

And as the other guy said, tell your parents to get jobs...

LeX
January 7th, 2004, 10:33
Originally posted by Conscript
Wow. Well in that case do something like mow people lawn's, shovel their snow, wash their cars, etc. He doesn't live in the US. People don't have lawns there, and unless something unbalances the current state of the earth, they will never get snow.

Did your parents just get laid off or something? How come I remember you talking about getting a new computer and ---- like that?


Well, for starters, you can try cutting off your internet connection... going online is pricey.

There are always jobs out there. It's just that most people can't bring themselves down to do the jobs that don't pay as well. But if your parents aren't bringing in any money at all, then I suggest that they at least get a job, however humble the work might be (like scrubbing bathrooms or whatnot).

trenzterra
January 7th, 2004, 10:43
Originally posted by LeX
He doesn't live in the US. People don't have lawns there, and unless something unbalances the current state of the earth, they will never get snow.

Did your parents just get laid off or something? How come I remember you talking about getting a new computer and ---- like that?


Well, for starters, you can try cutting off your internet connection... going online is pricey.

There are always jobs out there. It's just that most people can't bring themselves down to do the jobs that don't pay as well. But if your parents aren't bringing in any money at all, then I suggest that they at least get a job, however humble the work might be (like scrubbing bathrooms or whatnot). not laid off, just that the stock market has been plunging and my father who's a remisier, can't do any business. i want to do stuff online though, it's easier and interesting. And no, it's not easy to find jobs.

trenzterra
January 7th, 2004, 10:46
Originally posted by Conscript
charge like $50 or $100 for a whole site in order to remain competitive (unless you're lucky enough to get a deep pocket client who doesn't know he can get a site for that cheap). Like that guy which Epgs mentioned the other time?

LeX
January 7th, 2004, 10:51
Originally posted by trenzterra
not laid off, just that the stock market has been plunging and my father who's a remisier, can't do any business. i want to do stuff online though, it's easier and interesting. And no, it's not easy to find jobs. It's not easy to find decent jobs you mean...


This ain't the 1990's. You can't easily profit on the net anymore.

While it may be possible to become an instant success, it's also highly possible that you will die out just as quick. Ever heard of the phrase ¾èªá¤@²{ ? That's how things are these days.

Basically, if you aren't selling appealing merchandise or designing/coding, the only way to make money is through advertising. But that isn't easy.

Robert
January 7th, 2004, 11:30
Originally posted by Conscript

Decent jobs, even part time, are out there. Computer Techs at Best Buy get from $12-$15 an hour, which is a hell of a lot more money you'll make hourly on the internet. You can get other part time sales jobs that start at $10 an hour and give you commission.


I was always under the impression that BestBuy required an A+ Certification in order to work in the Computer Tech area repairign PCs.

I would HOPE they do.

Robert
January 7th, 2004, 11:33
Originally posted by trenzterra
not laid off, just that the stock market has been plunging and my father who's a remisier, can't do any business. i want to do stuff online though, it's easier and interesting. And no, it's not easy to find jobs.

What Stock Market are you referring to?

And jobs are easy to find, but a decent job isn't.

Conscript
January 7th, 2004, 17:17
Actually no, they don't. I thought they did also, but I talked to the supervisor of the techs and it turns out not even 1/2 of them have A+ Certifications. I don't have mine yet (still studying for the test) but he said he'll hire me. It's not what you know, it's who you know.

And uh, yeah, crappy jobs are easy to come by. It's true. Most people simply don't even consider doing something low like scrubbing toilets or serving fast food, and choose to remain unemployed or underemployed. I'm sure if you look around you'll be able to find all kinds of jobs for your parents or maybe even yourself (how about being a paperboy?).

7trax
January 7th, 2004, 19:38
Originally posted by Conscript
Actually no, they don't. I thought they did also, but I talked to the supervisor of the techs and it turns out not even 1/2 of them have A+ Certifications. I don't have mine yet (still studying for the test) but he said he'll hire me. It's not what you know, it's who you know.

And uh, yeah, crappy jobs are easy to come by. It's true. Most people simply don't even consider doing something low like scrubbing toilets or serving fast food, and choose to remain unemployed or underemployed. I'm sure if you look around you'll be able to find all kinds of jobs for your parents or maybe even yourself (how about being a paperboy?).

The BestBuy Store Manager decides wether or not A+ is required for the job or not at his/her store. So some Best Buy stores have techs with A+ and some don't.

I hear the American company represented child labor sweat shops down in the singapore, thailand region have raised their hourly wages to combat the intense resentment of civil groups. You can always find a Nike or Fisher Price factory to work in. You could then steal shoes and toys and expose the operation to the American press.

Kaliber
January 7th, 2004, 20:10
Originally posted by Conscript
And uh, yeah, crappy jobs are easy to come by. It's true. Most people simply don't even consider doing something low like scrubbing toilets or serving fast food, and choose to remain unemployed or underemployed. I'm sure if you look around you'll be able to find all kinds of jobs for your parents or maybe even yourself (how about being a paperboy?). lol, you can say that but money is money. Yesterday I bought home my weekly paycheck, it was $270. I work at macdonalds. Believe it or not I enjoy my job most of the time. Heaps of people to talk too. Especially this time of the year, when business is real slow.

You can't say that about "low" jobs until you have tried them.

deathdemon321
January 7th, 2004, 20:18
if you enjoy your job most of the time when do you not enjoy it?

Kaliber
January 7th, 2004, 20:22
I think you take things literally. However, when would I not enjoy it? When stupid newbies are to slow and they need to be taught everything. Also waking up at 7am is a pain in the --- for some shifts.

cowax
January 7th, 2004, 23:04
Originally posted by Kaliber
lol, you can say that but money is money. Yesterday I bought home my weekly paycheck, it was $270. I work at macdonalds. Believe it or not I enjoy my job most of the time. Heaps of people to talk too. Especially this time of the year, when business is real slow.

You can't say that about "low" jobs until you have tried them.

$270 a week at McDonalds??? How much do you make an hour? Cuase here they start out at minimum wage, $5.15

notnamed
January 8th, 2004, 00:17
Minimum wage is around $7 where I live :classic2:

trenzterra
January 8th, 2004, 01:41
I'll try web designing for a while first, and see. It's fun to make webbys.

tandoc
January 8th, 2004, 02:01
Originally posted by Kaliber
lol, you can say that but money is money. Yesterday I bought home my weekly paycheck, it was $270. I work at macdonalds. Believe it or not I enjoy my job most of the time. Heaps of people to talk too. Especially this time of the year, when business is real slow.

You can't say that about "low" jobs until you have tried them.

working @ mcdonalds isn't a low job in australia.. if anything... it looks like a social one.. they always seem to be having fun and talking a lot

Kaliber
January 8th, 2004, 05:37
Very much so, it is quite social. I will be getting 9.80/hour in about a month

tandoc
January 8th, 2004, 05:58
not to mention the people working there are mostly young adults, very chatty and and occaisionally hot :classic2: (not that i check out guys or anything... :ditsy2: )

Kaliber
January 8th, 2004, 06:29
Originally posted by tandoc
not to mention the people working there are mostly young adults, very chatty and and occaisionally hot :classic2: (not that i check out guys or anything... :ditsy2: ) More often than not hot :)

leamhost.com
January 8th, 2004, 08:47
try making an website for webhosting request such as webhostingtalk.com or an wbesite that is related to webhosting.

cowax
January 9th, 2004, 00:15
Originally posted by leamhost.com
try making an website for webhosting request such as webhostingtalk.com or an wbesite that is related to webhosting.

Not another please..........

deathdemon321
January 10th, 2004, 17:56
ya

darkcurves
January 11th, 2004, 03:59
Originally posted by leamhost.com
try making an website for webhosting request such as webhostingtalk.com or an wbesite that is related to webhosting.

Not a good idea, there are so many out there.

tandoc
January 11th, 2004, 04:14
buy fws.net and webhostingtalk, merge them, then sell it at a higher price ?

gulp
February 9th, 2004, 14:37
Hi,

I can give you some ideas how to make money on the internet as I have intentions to do these myself.

EXPIRED DOMAINS

1. register domains that have expired and are listed on yahoo, google, dmoz and alexa searchengines.

Typical Example :

shirtsandskirts.com has expired.
You check where it is listed on yahoo, dmoz, alexa and google.
You check how many links are pointing to shirtsandskirts.com.
You do this by typing "link:shirtsandskirts.com" on google and see how many links it presents you.
These links presented means that they are pointing or linking to shirtsandskirts.com.
Advisors tell us that if 300 and more links are linking to a domain then it is worth registering it as these 300 links are likely to drive traffic to you.
Anyway, you do the same by checking on yahoo , dmoz and alexa.
Now, if shirtsandskirts.com is ranked high on yahoo and dmoz directories, you register the expired domain and then contact those links listed below shirtsandskirts.com on yahoo and dmoz and then offer to sell them the domain. They are likely to buy it from you to erase a competitor listed beside them on yahoo/dmoz.
Plus, if they buy the domain from you then they get 2 different links of their' listed on yahoo/dmoz under the same keyword.
And so, more reason for them to buy it from you.
But instead of just selling it for peanut prices list the domain for sale on ebay and get all those buyers to bid.
I think these domains usually sell for $300-$1,000 on ebay.

2.
Or alternatively, instead of selling the domain name shirtsdskirts.com you can put "pay per click" links related to shirts and skirts on your web-site and then get shirtsandskirts.com to point to that website.
Now, when people find your domain shirtsandskirts.com on yahoo, dmoz, alexa, google they will see the "pay per click" links related to shirts and skirts and will click on them.
This will earn you money.
When I am on the look-out for expired domains, I make sure that they got at-least 1 million visitors from alexa search-engine alone in the last month.
Plus I make sure that they are also listed on google, yahoo and dmoz.
Apart from alexa, the other search-engines do not show stats of which domain got what number of visitors from them.
So, you cannot tell really which domain is getting how many clicks from google, dmoz or yahoo.

Now, if 1 million people (coming from alexa) click on my "pay per click" links that pay me 1 cent per click then that is $10,000 per month from alexa visitors alone.
Usually, a link pays you 3/5 cents. So, you are likely to earn $30,000-$50,000.
There is a Hong Kong guy who does this business.
We got the idea from his actions.
He grabs expired domains listed on the major search-engines and then points these domains to his web-site which is full of "pay per click" links.
He makes lots of money from the clicks and then registers more expired domains from his profits.
Through this business idea he has become so rich that he now owns 50,000 domains !
He is the owner of ultsearch.com.
He does not own his own "pay per click" search-engine.
He just joined an affiliate program of a pay per click search-engine and got the pay per click links to put on his web-site.
I will be copying his business idea.
2-3 more have copied his ideas.
Frankly, you may have stumbled across some of his domains which he registered when they expired and he found-out they are listed on the major searchengines.
Some-times when you find a link on the search-engines, you click it but instead of seeing a page related to the keyword the link was listed on the searchengine, you actually come across another search-engine.
That' his web-site.
eg.
You do a search for "computer hard-ware" on google.
Google shows you 10 links related to computer hard-wares.
Now, you click one of these links expecting to see a web-site full of computer hard-wares but if this link you clicked belong to this hong kong guy then instead of seeing a computer hard-ware website you see that you have dropped to another search-engine.
Now this search-engine is his.
All the links are "pay per click" links provided to him by some pay per click searchengine when he joined their affiliate program.
You now do a search for "computer hard-wares" again and are presented with links.
You click any of these links and go to the computer hardware web-site.
Now, that click earns the hong kong guy money.
Maybe 5 cents.
So, that is how he makes money.
He does not bang his head against the wall like this :doh!: to get listed on the major searchengines nor does he spend any money advertising them.
All he does is get a list of domains that will expire soon and then checks if they are listed on the major searchengines.
if they are, he regsiters them assoon as they expire.
My idea is a bit better than his.
When you click on a link (say it is furniture.com and is related to furniture) found in on google or yahoo or dmoz or alexa then instead of coming to my searchengine full of pay per click links you will come to a furniture web-site.
This furniture website will be my sponsor' website who pays me 5 cents for sending him a visitor who is interested in furniture.
Now, how many visitors do you reckon I will get per month from google, yahoo, dmoz and alexa if I am listed on them ?
Lots.
And each time, I would earn 5 cents per visitor.
Now, before I start pointing my furniture domain name to a pay per click link I will first get the permission from the sponsor (pay per click search-engine) if he is ok with me sending him visitors who drop to my furniture.com.
And I will agree a price for him to pay me for each visitor sent.

Blank Verse
February 9th, 2004, 15:18
For digging up an old thread AND posting an inanely long and useless post all at once, I recommend that you be kicked in the teeth.

Decker
February 9th, 2004, 16:12
Yep and prospecting when the guy needs something solid - never a good idea - unless you want to loan him a few thousand to get going :P

deathdemon321
February 10th, 2004, 23:04
to the thread starter....make a site with content on it then join an affirate program...(and get a real part time job)