I need closure...the best and worst story ever

[guitarnerd]

Well about 3-4 summers ago I was camping at Shaver Lake with my Dad, step Mom, sister, and step cousin. We were going to be there for 1 week. So we had a great time. It was my first time hanging out with my step cousin and we would go around all day looking for places to cliff dive and cause trouble. About 3 days into the trip we met a couple guys that where doing the same thing. So now we had this group of about 7 guys.

So we needed to find some girls but it seems like there was a female drought that summer. Eventually, we saw the most beautiful girl at a campsite. She had blonde hair down to around her shoulders. She was skinny, but with some curves. She was wearing cut off short shorts, and a bikini top. Now at the time she was like a year and a half older. Let's just say she was insanely hot.

So after about 1 hour of us acting stupid trying to get her attention. She finaly comes over to us. We were to stupid to say anything to her. So she starts talking to us. Turns out, not only is she hot, she is a varsity cheerleader for her high school, she was single, she was pretty intelligent, and her name was April which is the month I was born.

So we are talking to her and slowly less of her attention is going towards the other guys, and more towards me. Now I wasn't even trying to impress this girl. I actually had prospects of possibly seeing another girl but we weren't together. After a while, April and I where talking directly to each other and ignoring everyone else. Hey who could blame me she was insanely hot.

So we all decide to start walking, and by now the sun was just about all the way down. So wew walk to the otherside of the campgrounds. Still it is just her and I talking to eachother. We keep getting closer and closer as we are walking.

Eventually our hands hit and we ended up holding hands. Unfortunatly we were walking in front of everyone. So the guys made stupid noises and comments. But they were just jealous. Consider the youngest one of the group got the girl.

Me being the stupid guy that I am eventually asked her "So uh, ya want to hook-up or something?" to me disbelief her response was yes. By now one of the guys needed to use the bathroom. So we all stop. At this time one of us (don't remember at the time) said "Want to ditch everybody?". So we did. Five minutes of fast walking down a dark road. We started to kiss. Now she was still wearing the shorts and a bikini top, but with a letterman jacket over her. So here I am basically in her jacket, making out with this fine girl after not even trying. Which later on led me to the conclusion that I probably only got this girl because I wasn't trying (isnt that how it works?).

So, after that I feel like I am dreaming. So we walk down to the lake. We told eachother about our selves what we like to do bla bla. It was really good conversation. Well we get to the lake and have a seat on a picnc bench. I have my arm around her and we talk a little more. Then we started kissing some more. It was some of the best kissing of my life. We kissed, and some other stuff happened which I won't get into, but for respect towards her I won't get into it. I will just say what we did wasn't much, it was how much we did it that was great and there was no sex at all.

So about 1 1/2 hours later, maybe even more, she says "I shouldn't be out too late". I said ok so we start to walk back to her camp ground.

About five minutes into the walk back (maybe a 10 minute walk from where we were. A forest ranger pulls up beside us and asks "Is your name April" she says "Yes" he then said "Your parents were looking for you I need to give you a ride back to camp.". So, we hug, get one more really good kiss and say "See you in the morning".

So, maybe the greatest day and night of my life just went by. I come back to camp, get some sleep. Wake up the next morning and here is what followed such a great day...

Me and my cousin walk over to her camp which was really clsoe to mine. We talk for like 2 minutes and she said she had got in trouble for being out so late and she might have to leave early. Then she tells us we better go her dad is coming. Then of course her Dad walks up and says to us "you boys better leave" in a kind, but stern voice (not in a super mean way) he almost sounded sympathetic, like he knew his daughter was so beautiful it was hard to leave. The rest of this day I would walk by the camp hoping to get a chance to chat with her and get her number or something. Hell, I don't think I ever got her last name. Everytime I saw her she was in tears. At least I think she was. I watched her from this big rock trying to see if I could get a chance to talk to her. Noooo, I didn't. I saw her drive away. My heart sunk realizing what a horrible thing it was that just happened.

The girl of my dreams just drove away. I wasn't even sure where she lived, what her last name was or anything.

So what I do know is...

Her name was April
She had to have surgery on her knee and it made her quit cheerleading
She lived in a city west of sacramento.
Her grandparents go to Shaver lake a lot
I think she said she lived in oroville or vacaville or something with a ville at the end, but am not sure.
She has one sister

I have thought about this girl every day for the past 3+ years. Over a thousand days that I have thought of her. I have tried everything from google searches, to classmates.com to find her. I actually found a couple prospects on classmates but don't have a gold membership.

Maybe one of you can help me. THey say you are 6 people away from knowing everyone in the world.

I am going to start posting this on forums everywhere. I don't know if she even cares, but I sure as hell do, and all I want is to talk to her one time and say "do you remember that night" and if not then that is enough closure for me. But damn. Anyone have advice on this subject???

Please help

[Blank Verse]

That's a classical Hollywood movie storyline right there. I was under the impression that you had a girlfriend right now. Does she know about this? Not that it matters, your heart is where it is.

I do hope you find her, but be careful in your approach. The whole idea of tracking someone you don't even really know but feel for so much is inherently kind of creepy, but obviously I wasn't there, so I have no idea what kind of bond you guys actually had.

Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, whether you find her or not. Just know that your chances of finding her are slim, so don't get your hopes up too much.

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Blank Verse
That's a classical Hollywood movie storyline right there. I was under the impression that you had a girlfriend right now. Does she know about this? Not that it matters, your heart is where it is.

I do hope you find her, but be careful in your approach. The whole idea of tracking someone you don't even really know but feel for so much is inherently kind of creepy, but obviously I wasn't there, so I have no idea what kind of bond you guys actually had.

Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, whether you find her or not. Just know that your chances of finding her are slim, so don't get your hopes up too much.

Yeah I completely agree. I do have a girlfriend. If I find this April I don't plan on just running off with her or something. I am sure she has some boyfriend or a leas has had a few the past couple years.

I have just been told that after 2 years you usually get over these types of things, and I haven't 3+ years later.

I will probably eventually become a member of class mates, but I told myself, since I have a girlfriend I am not going to spend $39 to go looking for another girl.

anyway keep the responses coming

[Wojtek]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
since I have a girlfriend I am not going to spend $39 to go looking for another girl.
pay that

I dunno if you love your current gf or just have a gf for the sake of having a gf, but try to find that april girl. I'm more then sure she's worth more then 39$ ;)

Maybe you'r right and after 2yrs she got over or has a bf, but you do too no (gf)? And maybe just like you she'd like to find you. Nobody knows, give it a try ;)

Summer camp girls are the best ;) I'll add here that I had a very similar situation. The only differences is that it was me that left before, it happened 5 years ago, and I have her phone # :)

[Conscript]

$39 is a small price to pay for closure. I bet you waste $39 on much more useless things all the time. I say pay the money and get closure.

[Nick101]

Dude, I have the utmost respect for you.

You know what these varsity cheerleaders dad's are like - concentrate on your school life and you can't date boys until your 16 blahblah, while many girls don't follow these rules.. if there dad finds out they will do anything in there power to stop it.

About this girl, don't give up hope yet. Just try follow every lead you can but I would recommend if you do get a strong one.. approach with care: 2 or 3 years does alot to somebody. She might have a long-term jock boyfriend who will kick your ---, she may have moved away or she may have had some emotional problems (close family died etc)

But, on your journey.. good luck man. :coolmusic

[guitarnerd]

Yeah I am gonna do it. Register for classmates. Besides if I don't find her through there, there are still other things I can use it for and $39 is nothing for closure. I won't get my hopes up.

You know I probably would have found her if her name wasn't april cause whenever I do searches it returns things with the month april or whatever. Grrr

Still though keep posting I think talking about it helps too

[Dean]

You didn't ask which school she chearleadered for?

[guitarnerd]

Originally posted by Phyxisus
You didn't ask which school she chearleadered for?

I might have but I don't remember. The only reason why I am not sure on the city she lives in is because the first time I asked she said something and I didn't hear her. So I said What? and she said it again. I still didn't hear her so I didn't want to sound like a jack --- and say what again. I just remember it was sort of weird and I think it had a ville at the end but no sure. Like oroville vacaville or something

[Nick]

I've seen this movie before.

One day you will be working at a ski resort and some big shot millionare will buy it and the girl will turn out to be his daughter...

Sure, she'll have a pansy boyfriend who's in a wheelchair, but you'll find out who she is.

Don't worry, it's a good ending.

[guitarnerd]

So far I have sent off 5 emails to prospects. No responses but I just sent them off an hour or two ago.

Since classmates is basically a scam though I am wondering. Do they require them to pay the $39 in order to read the email I sent? Or can they read it.

I will probably send around 20-30 emails out by the end of the weekend. Serious people. Ask your friends and tell your friends to ask there friends. There has to be somebody who knows her or something.

This reminds me of that movie serendipity (sp)

[Nick]

Originally posted by guitarnerd
This reminds me of that movie serendipity (sp)

Damn, I was thinking Out Cold.

[Blank Verse]

ROTFLMAO Out Cold? Ha Ha, I remember that movie. It's also in a way like that movie with Kiersten Dunst "Get Over It" or something...

[Nick]

Originally posted by Blank Verse
ROTFLMAO Out Cold? Ha Ha, I remember that movie. It's also in a way like that movie with Kiersten Dunst "Get Over It" or something...

I think I know what movie you're talking about. It had the guy that sings the thong song in it, right? HBO or Showtime was playing that a few months ago and I saw half of it.

If this is that movie, you're going to fall for your best friend's sister. You will get in a fight with him over it, but you will eventually get with her and he will be cool with it.

It's all good.

[Blank Verse]

and your best friend is Colin Hanks...but you're a no talent hack who no one has ever heard of...yet even you have more clout than Sisqo.

[Gayowulf]

Good luck, guitarnerd. You've got my sympathy and my best wishes.

I know i would want closure too. I have been in a similar situation, and i now the feeling. luckily i did reach a happy ending.

I hope you're able to do the same.

[Canuckkev]

This is something to consider...make a website about this thing. Then, post a link to the website on the forums or whatever. And try to get people to link to it from blogs and whatnot.

Now, if you get enough people coming, there might be a few people out there who stumble across it, and might know the April.

Now, the website content would be somewhat sensitive. Try to make it as uncreepy as possible. You know, say that you remember having a great time with her, and you got along very well, so you just want to find her again and see what she's up to or something.

Anyways, good luck!

[Nick]

Didn't one of members of either the Backstreet Boys or Nsync make a movie around this same idea? I think he met the girl in a big city or something though? I remember seeing previews for something very similar.

[Blank Verse]

That to me seems like a pretty creepy idea, but to knock down the willies level a bit, make it a small section of your normal site, and just promote it through there.

[stabme]

the easiest thing you could do (or could've done) was go to the camp.. and ask for a list of the campers. who knows if the camp s till exists now or would still have a list of the campers from 3-4 years ago, but they would if they're organized.. i guess it's worth a shot.


and, i'm sorry for being such a pessimist... but a hot varsity cheerleader falling for (as you put it, nothing special, i think..?)... it seems sorta suspicious. maybe she was desperate for a relationship or a guy at the time. that's the first thing i thought about. and why you out of the others? sometimes the innocent young ones (usually the youngest ones are innocents; can be manipulated easy, yadda yadda) would be more courteous (usually shyer) and less ----grab/rude than the older teenagers... but, hey, that's my thoughts--usually depressing and pessimistic. don't let it bring you down, eh.

[Blank Verse]

Originally posted by stabme
the easiest thing you could do (or could've done) was go to the camp.. and ask for a list of the campers. who knows if the camp s till exists now or would still have a list of the campers from 3-4 years ago, but they would if they're organized.. i guess it's worth a shot.


and, i'm sorry for being such a pessimist... but a hot varsity cheerleader falling for (as you put it, nothing special, i think..?)... it seems sorta suspicious. maybe she was desperate for a relationship or a guy at the time. that's the first thing i thought about. and why you out of the others? sometimes the innocent young ones (usually the youngest ones are innocents; can be manipulated easy, yadda yadda) would be more courteous (usually shyer) and less ----grab/rude than the older teenagers... but, hey, that's my thoughts--usually depressing and pessimistic. don't let it bring you down, eh.

Who the hell are you? First of all, no organization of any kind are just going to log and make available a list of people who have been clients of that organization.

Second of all, you don't know guitarnerd. You have no right to say what he is and isn't capable of doing, and maybe this girl did legitimately like him. Sure, I don't know if the story if completely legit, but who is going to waste their time taking all these actions if none of it is actually true.

[stabme]

No, I can't say that I know him, sorry... that's why my post might not seem all too suiting and a little too subjective to generalization and my pessimistic doubts. However, I don't doubt him (I just forgot some details from his post while I was writing), his actions, the story, etc., and I think what he's doing is something only few brave dare to do. I just doubt or wonder the motives of the cheerleader, that's all.

I tend to look at all possible motives or outcomes toward a situation. It's not all bad to have a new perspective, although it could be a tad too dark. But anywho, I apologize.

[Nick]

Stabme is just jealous because he can't score a hot varsity cheerleader.

Besides, they aren't all after big shot quarterback football players.

I dated a varsity cheerleader last year and she was as far from the common stereotypes that people place upon cheerleaders as humanly possible.

[Ben]

No matter how much you may hate me (your sig says it all), I have to say: Good luck man.:-)

[Blank Verse]

You kids are so sensitive to everything. I doubt guitarnerd hates you, he has some different opinions, that's all. Let's be objective, people...

[guitarnerd]

BIG NEWS!

Ok everyone just thought I would let you know...I may find this girl very very very soon!

My search continued on as it always has even after this thread died down and yesterday I had a huge breakthrough...

I remembered that I ordered a guitar amp from musicians friend the day before I left to go to Shaver Lake so I called musiciansfriend and asked them what date I ordered it on. They told me Jun 30 of 2000

I was kind of shocked, that means it has been over 4 years since this happens.

So today I called Camp Edison (the campground I stayed at) and told them that I was looking for some contact information of a friend that stayed in the campground next to me. After a lot of convincing she agreed to give me the information.

Well I looked at the map of the campground wrong so I gave her the wrong camp ground number. Meaning I got the wrong information. So I soon realized that after calling the number she gave me.

I called her back and she said she was very busy with making reservations and she has to close it all down to go back to the 2000 records but she took all my information and said she would get back to me asap. She seems nice and if I don't get a call back by 3:30pm today I will call again.

I still know there is a good chance I won't find her but this is a big breakthrough because now I can confirm the city she lived in, have a possible contact number, have a last name, which also means if I still can't find her after this since I remember her saying that they stay every year I can call and ask for more information for other dates that they stayed...a little stockerish but oh well...

Also I posted the whole story on my web page and have been trying to get it to index in google well but it is hard to get something to rank high when the main keyword is "April"

http://junebughunter.net/Default.asp?page=April

[Wojtek]

You should make a movie

"The hunt for April : The story of guitarnerd"

:p


Good luck there buddy :wink2:

[Ben]

Good luck man! Always hope for the best.

[jmiller]

What a complete invasion of privacy by both you and the campsite. :shame:

The campground shouldn't be disclosing such personal information, nor should you be asking for it.

[Wojtek]

I would of done the same thing

but then again im the immoral and unintelligent one around here :rolleyes2

[jmiller]

I would of done the same thing

but then again im the immoral and unintelligent one around here :rolleyes2Hardly :P

Any respectful business will not disclose customer information. Unless it is to the proper authorities.

[guitarnerd]

Hardly :P

Any respectful business will not disclose customer information. Unless it is to the proper authorities.

I really don't see how it is an invasion of privacy considering I personally knew this girl, I "hooked-up" with her. I am not asking for more information than is required in order to make contact with her, and I think under these circumstances it is ok, sure if I was saying I am putting together a mass spam mail list and I want her stuff that is ok but I have a logical and understandable reason.

[Nick]

Any respectful business will not disclose customer information. Unless it is to the proper authorities.

If this was a Utopian society, it would work that way. Is it? Hardly.

You can get tons of information about anything you want if you're smooth enough when it comes to talking and you know who to target.

For example...

Little over a month ago, I ordered a computer for friends of our family from a reputable and well known PC manufacturer, I would say they are a much more respected business than a summer camp in California. I did it at their house and they helped pick out the options and whatnot. Anyways, few days later they wanted me to make sure everything was going alright since it had not arrived at their house. All I remembered was their name of course, that I used a VISA, and the name of the town they live in. After calling a few times and getting male operators who are usually harder to get information out of, I finally got a female operator. Explained that I had ordered for them to her and gave her the facts I had and that I just wanted to check on the order she gave me a tracking number and everything.

Was I supposed to be able to aquire that information without an order number or any specific details? Nope.

But I still got it.

It would be nice if everything was perfect and proper... But it isn't.

[guitarnerd]

If this was a Utopian society, it would work that way. Is it? Hardly.

You can get tons of information about anything you want if you're smooth enough when it comes to talking and you know who to target.

For example...

Little over a month ago, I ordered a computer for friends of our family from a reputable and well known PC manufacturer, I would say they are a much more respected business than a summer camp in California. I did it at their house and they helped pick out the options and whatnot. Anyways, few days later they wanted me to make sure everything was going alright since it had not arrived at their house. All I remembered was their name of course, that I used a VISA, and the name of the town they live in. After calling a few times and getting male operators who are usually harder to get information out of, I finally got a female operator. Explained that I had ordered for them to her and gave her the facts I had and that I just wanted to check on the order she gave me a tracking number and everything.

Was I supposed to be able to aquire that information without an order number or any specific details? Nope.

But I still got it.

It would be nice if everything was perfect and proper... But it isn't.

Tracking Numbers for items shipped are not private. I would say getting 4 year old information including phone numbers and last names is a little more private than a tracking number.

Just to clarify it was not a Summer Camp it was a resort type of place, you pay like $30 a night to have a little area where you can set up a tent or small rv to sleep in we stayed for a week.

Anyway this thread has nothing to do with privacy it is all about April and trying to find her nothing more.

[Nick]

This forum needs to stop getting hung up on little details and read. I guess from now on I have to be more specific than "everything".

She also gave me the complete address of their home (all I knew was the town/state) and she gave me the order number for the purchase.

Maybe I should have used the story when my friend needed me to pick up his transcript from the local community college and drop it off at our high school so he could get credit. Now I know for a fact that I shouldn't have been able to go in there without warning and not knowing any of the people working in that office and get copies of transcripts for SOMEONE ELSE.

The point was not the story, but that this illusion of privacy is nice but it's not as real as you think.

[Dean]

Good Luck Man

Same thing happened in spain for me,, cept i got her msn

[TRUNKS]

You miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take.