View Full Version : Ways to protect against car theft
Koolguy
May 9th, 2004, 22:19
Tomorrow I am going to be installing several thousand dollars worth of electronics in my car (dvd, xbox, subs etc). I am starting to get quite worried about all of this stuff getting stolen. What are some suggestions on how to protect against theft? Are car alarms effective at all? Should I tint my front side windows?
Tint will help keep people from looking in. Advertising the brands on your car with brand stickers is a bad idea. Alarms are nice, but not really effective. If they want it they will get it.
I have a couple thousand of stereo equipment in my current SUV, and I've got twice that going into the car I will be buying within the next two weeks. I've found that the best bet is to make sure everything is BOLTED DOWN SECURELY TO THE CAR. If it is bolted down and tied into the electrical system, it's part of the car. CD cases and stuff usually aren't considered unless your insurance company states otherwise.
Then call your insurance company and tell them you want EVERYTHING covered. Find out how much if any it will go up. Pay it. It's the only way you'll be completely safe.
Also, an alarm might make your insurance costs go down a little bit. So while it wont exactly keep your stuff from getting stolen in a lot of cases, it will be a good investment in reducing insurance costs.
notnamed
May 9th, 2004, 22:38
Why are you putting an xbox in your CAR?
Wojtek
May 9th, 2004, 22:46
isnt there like a living room for that or something
dvd is fine though, for the kids
notnamed
May 9th, 2004, 23:10
Yeah, sure, to play XBox games. But Robert, YOU'RE driving this time. I had to drive the past three times and I want to get in some Halo time.
Conscript
May 9th, 2004, 23:22
Playing video games and driving - two activities that naturally go together in a safe way I'm sure.
Yeah it is just cool to have all that junk in your car. I just can't afford it, and wouldn't go well in a 1993 Ford Aerostar (I am driving it cause I sold my 1965 mustang 3 montsh ago)
Koolguy
May 10th, 2004, 00:11
Have an xBox for passengers, I tend to go on quite a few road trips and entertainment is allways nice on the longer drives. Not to mention it its just so amazingly pimping :)
spec
May 10th, 2004, 00:15
My friend had a very nice alarm system in his car, it is the one that pages you when your door opens, or when someone touches your glass with a metal object.
Koolguy
May 10th, 2004, 00:22
How hard would they be to install?
jmiller
May 10th, 2004, 00:35
This is all really sad.
You plan on putting all these electronics into your car, yet you know ---- all when it comes to anti-theft devices?
You really should've done your homework prior to making this decision. :confused4
Koolguy
May 10th, 2004, 00:42
This whole setup its going to be very permanent. Would bolting everything down and intentionally stripping the bolts help at all?
It really came up quick, a friend of mine is selling most of his equipment (upgrading) and I haven't had much time to investigate security.
jmiller
May 10th, 2004, 01:11
This whole setup its going to be very permanent. Would bolting everything down and intentionally stripping the bolts help at all?
It really came up quick, a friend of mine is selling most of his equipment (upgrading) and I haven't had much time to investigate security.Ah, well that is fair enough then.
I just assumed you had been collecting the gear for a while now.
Koolguy
May 10th, 2004, 01:54
Yeah, I had a cheap deck and some budget subs in there before. It was nothing I was worried about losing and this is why I haven't looked into security before.
Fuzzylogic
May 10th, 2004, 03:10
what i'd like to know is how your going to power all those electric goods. better be a good car to get that all to work. i'm wondering ifs there's a system that will stop your car from starting up even if hotwired without the key. i know of a system i just can't think who or what its called. that would stop anyone from stealing your car and having them resort to a 'sash and run'. and bolt it all down and i don't think you'll have a problem. or get a really crappy car, who the hell would steal a crappy car? :knockedou .
who the hell would steal a crappy car? :knockedou . Who the hell would buy or drive one? Unless you're on a one-way trip...
Wojtek
May 10th, 2004, 08:17
Theres no fool-proof security system
as suggested before, insure everything, and install Boomerang on your car if its available, insurance costs reduced.
Nick
May 10th, 2004, 15:12
Installing an alarm is no simple task. You want the alarm brain to be hidden well behind the dash as well as a backup battery and multiuple hidden sirens. Personally, I do my own custom fiberglass/wood fabrication, wiring, installation, etc. for the audio/video portion, but when it comes to the alarm I'd leave that to a real professional. Someone who has installed before and nows how to install it effectively.
As far as powering all of it, it really depends on your car. If you're running 1200 watts rms, you should be fine using a main line of 4 guage wire. Anything above that power, and I'd go for 2 guage, or even overkill it with 0 guage. Make sure you properly fuse the wiring as well.
If you experience problems with light dimming, I would upgrade the following connections under your hood with 4 guage wire: negative battery to chassis; engine to chassis; alternator to positive Battery. That usually fixes the problem and is cheaper than using an expensive power capacitor that store clerks will try to get you to buy.
If you're running a lot of power, and still having problems with too much strain on your electrical system upgrade your battery. Optima yellow tops are great deep cycle batteries. If you're still having problems, go for a high output alternator. Seeing as this sounds like a daily driver, if you're having problems after adding a HO alternator, I'd be curious as to what exactly you're running :p!
As far as bolting and stripping the bolts, it would be much simpler to take a hammer and flat head screw driver to the threads on the bolt. When you mess up the threads, it makes it pretty much impossoble to remove the bolt without taking a saw to it.
Also, when you bolt things down to the body of the car, make sure to seal around them with silicone to prevent water from entering the car.
Have fun :).
Robert
May 10th, 2004, 15:29
My car has a lowjack. Tho it has never been stolen, I don't wanna test it.
Nick
May 10th, 2004, 15:54
If you're worried about someone breaking into the car and driving away with it, I would install a switch that controls power to your fuel pump hidden underneath the dash. My friend has a 4x4 built for off road use only and he likes to leave the keys in it sitting in his yard. He installed a switch to control his fuel pump and when someone tried to steal it, it didn't even go a foot.
But remember, all of this stuff that prevents theives from getting something (security screws, fuel pump switch, etc.) is only going to piss them off. At which point they will most likely do something like key your car or another form of vandalism. Make sure your insurance company covers this. If my insurance company didn't cover vandalism, I'd rather deal with them and get my money for stolen than than be stuck with broken gear.
Honestly, the best way to prevent theft is not to show off your car or let it be known there's expensive equipment in there. Refrain from having the volume at full tilt when you are within 5 miles of your home, your job, or a place where you will be parking at for extended periods of time.
nitroboy
May 11th, 2004, 15:02
I have a standard alarm and an anti-carjacking system in my bimmer....
Gayowulf
May 11th, 2004, 17:18
not having a car seems to work fairly well for me.
pro5ject
May 11th, 2004, 19:13
not having a car seems to work fairly well for me.
Ditto.
I don't wish to own a car also, seeing as I live in the centre of my town already, and everything is so near and handy, plus the bus and train station is less than a 3 min walk away.
I don't wish to add pollution to this polluted planet we all live on.
(except in the public transport sense)
Wojtek
May 12th, 2004, 00:28
what about your groceries?
Gayowulf
May 12th, 2004, 00:34
what about your groceries?
i walk or ride my bike
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