Great host with really cheap price of only $15/year, BUT....

[curiousity]

http://9kd.net/index.shtml

I love its features for only $15/year but the the "unlimited" word in its feature really scares me. Would you go for this host? It is only $15/year.....
Would it be worth the risk?

[hcarlson3]

Sounds like one of those "too good to be true" hosts, I wouldn't do it. I read the TOS and they don't specify a limitation in there either. They may be a new company that doesn't have an established track record and is looking fo business. Good luck.

EDIT: One thing I found, the domain name would be http://cp.domainame.com something I noticed.

[spunkylad]

hcarlson3 is right....

it's too good to be true...u'll most likely end up with more problems than you'll ever want.

might want to move on...

[ninekd]

Hi

cp.domainname.com is the url to your control panel.

We decided to make it 15 per year.

We want to provide a good webhosting for tight budget webmasters.

We have had no problems so far.

[curiousity]

Hello NineKD,

I am glad that you want to be a good webhost. Can I ask you something? How many people have you hosted already since you first started this hosting plan?

[ninekd]

Re-launched yesterday

5 new sign ups today

About 50 sign ups all together right now.

[ninekd]

Feel free to visit our forums or ask me questions through E-mail

dongwook@9kd.net

[Haze]

Search and ye shall find, something like that. I think all unlimited hosts should be nocked off the face of the earth. Its a very bad business practice, very very bad. Here is what happens when you consume to much bandwidth and or processor utilization...

HIGH RESOURCE USER POLICY
Resources are defined as bandwidth and/or processor utilization. We do not place limits on your site's bandwidth. However, you should also know that no system in the world has unlimited resources, and we expect you to act responsibly when consuming resources on our system. If you consume unnecessary and excessive resources on our system we may suspend your access at any time without prior notice to correct the situation.

[bigperm]

At least they say in the FAQ that nothing is unlimited... I just think it would be good to say what would be satifactory usage. Like if my site uses 10 gigs of bandwidth/transfer, would that be too much? It would be nice to know limits that are acceptable without question, and what you mean buy buying extra bandwidth at 4.00 a gig... starting at the end of your 'unlimited' bandwidth? What is the cutoff?

[Haze]

The point is it is wrong to advertise unlimited when really it isnt. I have a few sites that would thrive at such an ISP, but in reality it does not exist. At least not yet anyways. The only way that they get away with this is how they back themselves up in there terms and conditions. This is a SCAM without exception, and its feeding on webmasters that dont have a lot of cash flow.

[ninekd]

Originally posted by bigperm
At least they say in the FAQ that nothing is unlimited... I just think it would be good to say what would be satifactory usage. Like if my site uses 10 gigs of bandwidth/transfer, would that be too much? It would be nice to know limits that are acceptable without question, and what you mean buy buying extra bandwidth at 4.00 a gig... starting at the end of your 'unlimited' bandwidth? What is the cutoff?

Yes, bandwidth is really expensive.
I haven't really decide on a cutoff yet (Maybe around 25 gigs per month).


Originally posted by evilhaze
The point is it is wrong to advertise unlimited when really it isnt. I have a few sites that would thrive at such an ISP, but in reality it does not exist. At least not yet anyways. The only way that they get away with this is how they back themselves up in there terms and conditions. This is a SCAM without exception, and its feeding on webmasters that dont have a lot of cash flow.

No, we do not intend to feed off the webmasters that don't have a lot of cash flow. We've all came up with a good plan (2 months of thinking) before we started this hosting service.

[Technics]

Your a Donhost Reseller right?

How can you give unlimited bandwidth if your account has a 50gb bandwidth limit? and then they charge around £10 per gigabyte isnt it?


Why do people keep advertising unlimited diskspace and bandwidth? it's a plain lie and shows the host to be dishonest. If you want to be generous with your webspace tell them you will give them 1GB or something dont lie to them. Put a limit of 15GB bandwidth any site using more really should be on its own server.

[ninekd]

Thank you for your advice Technics
I will do that.

I'm going to buy more reseller plans from them as I get more customers.

[ninekd]

I'm also very flexible.
I will even colocate several servers if I need to.

In summer, we're going to colocate a server to efreeservers or dialtoneinternet for azn.as free webhosting service.

I will spend as much as I need to make my business successful.

[itbusiness]

unlimited bandwidth is something that is simply speaking a lie. If that was true, you would have been hosting yahoo and every top web site in the world !

[ninekd]

You're absolutely right itbusiness.
That's why we've changed some information on our site.

[Haze]

I dont see any difference at all. Still looks like a scam to me, donhost reseller or not. Unlimited does not exist, and therefore you should not advertise such service if you are unable to provide them.

[ninekd]

I've changed the bandwidth amount per month.

Please stop calling 9kd.net a scam.

Thank you.

[Haze]

Would you prefer cozenage?

[ninekd]

no

[YUMAMA]

Hey, good to see that you have changed the bandwidth limit to 15 gig/month.

:D

[Innocentius]

uahhh...:p I really don't like the lady on the first page.... why does all "proffessional hosts" look so boring... that's a question..

[akersche]

great you changed that...
BUT I think every new host should make more research work and have enough knowledge to get a host!
cause it sucks when hosts change their policy.
and i bet there are many hosts closed down, cause they cannot make profit...

unlimeted space is still a reason, why i wouldn't go with that host! (even it's stated in the faq or rules...)

user forum is a great idea....
and the design is ok. like the lady hehe

greetings arno

[Cael]

On my opinion, most people go with an UNLIMITED host because of the UNLIMITED bandwidth they are providing. As you changed it to 15GB, why don't you change the disk space to 500MB or something like that? I don't think that it's really a matter for your potential UNLIMITED customers.

[YUMAMA]

I think Donovan is right. You should change your hosting plan to 500 MB limit to make it sound more credible.

[Cael]

You should consider. It can let people think that you are reliable and have a good image for you. And you won't be listed in the UNLIMITED SCAM HOST LIST anymore.

[ljprevo]

You said that you had 50 customers signed up at $15 per year
that is only $62.50 per month. How can you operate at that amount?

I would be very careful cutting your services that low being a reseller.

Unless you are rich and have tons of money to give away.

[gyrbo]

I allready have a paid host, but this one has my likes. So if directoris closes down, you will have the pleasure of hosting me. I agree, change the 'ulimited to 500megs or even 1gb. Unlimited sounds like 50megs.

[Haze]

The service they are using to provide THIS service is cheap. Im not sure how either of them can make anything off of it either. Financial backing maybe? Bad! The internet is full of people that have not clue what they are doing. Fortunatly most have realised that already through bankruptsy etc. More room for us :)


Originally posted by ljprevo
You said that you had 50 customers signed up at $15 per year
that is only $62.50 per month. How can you operate at that amount?

I would be very careful cutting your services that low being a reseller.

Unless you are rich and have tons of money to give away.

[ninekd]

We are going to co-locate servers when we need to.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by ljprevo
You said that you had 50 customers signed up at $15 per year
that is only $62.50 per month. How can you operate at that amount?

Gordon posted a nice post about the costs of running a server. Even at 200 accounts @ $15/yr. the total only comes to $250, which is barely enough for a decent lease.

I wouldn't judge but, when I checked out the site, that's the only plan you offer. The specs are so high (granted you lowered the transfer), that there is nothing to upgrade them to. So $15/yr. is the top, which just probably won't be enough when you go dedicated.

I'd like to see your long term business plan.

[sweethorizons]

I was looking @ what they provide. The site looks legit but you can never tell.

[gyrbo]

If they're a donhost reseller (witch they are) the are OK. That's also the reason why they provide unlimited space, donhodt does!

[bigperm]

Now the bandwidth is changed to 10 gigs. Hmmm. I wouldn't trust a host that keeps changing the limits on your account. Which it also a reason for hosts to have more than one plan. If somebody gets a plan for say 500mb/2gig, and that is the only one, then they know that if anything gives, it willl be thier account, because all are the same. If they have the second or third highest account, then they know that things will be taken away from the ones below them first, if it comes to that.

Does that make any sense?

[top]

bigperm:

It's not taken away from current customers, so what is the problem? So if nobodys downgrading the service you bought what is wrong with changing plans?

[ninekd]

We've changed the bandwidth to 10 GIG/month.
This does not apply to current customers.

This is our final plan.

[akersche]

took a look at the details of the reseller plan at:
http://www.donhost.net

~50GB monthly transfer
Additional 1GB Data Transfer: £15.00 Monthly

with 50 customers @10GB/m you would need 500GB
(even if they use just 5GB it's also already 250GB)


don't know much else about donhost... unlimited space is just for the reseller plan... other plans are limeted on e.g. 100mb

business plan and long term is important... unless you wanna help the internet stay alive and do something for the comunity...