A question for Gcites

[sHaWn]

When you give a user access to a cgi-bin, do you also give them FTP acceess? Dealing with cgi with a browser could make anyone scream! ;)

[Gcites]

Hi,

Ofcourse you get ftp acccess so you can chmod the files etc :)

[keith]

i got an account there to put up a message board for a friend, but could never log into it through ftp. and browser-based file managers are the devil.

[Ron Seigel]

Not to mention it's NOT ad-free as advertised. ;)

[Gcites]

Hi,

Ron give up if you look at all the members we host not a single one of them have ads :) you may try and scare all 3000 of my members and good luck ;) Keith what is your username?

Thank you
webmaster@gcites.com

[Ron Seigel]

That's right...you've decided that a search box is NOT an ad and therefore you're ad-free! Almost forgot about that. Let's have a vote.

Who here thinks that having a search box is essentially the same thing as having an ad and therefore is NOT ad-free? Does *anyone* here disagree with me on that point? I'm not asking if it's better to have a search box over an ad. I'm asking if having a search box instead of an ad makes it an ad-free FWP! It's pretty damn plain to me that it doesn't. What does everyone else think?

[Edited by Ron Seigel on 11-19-2000 at 11:16 PM]

[Nick]

Anything that makes the host money ( which I assume the search box does ) is not exactly an ad, but it is basically the same purpose and you're putting something on the user's page without their approval.


Searchbox = Ad? No.
Same purpose? Yes.
Same user complaints? Yes.
Would I rather have a banner? Yes.

[Gcites]

Ron damnit for once can you think and use your brain? none of our pages contain searchboxes on users pages. Ask the members on the forums damnit get your act together you old sheep :)

[}:8) Supermoo]

Just out of interest Gcities,
how do you make money from the site, just SearchTraffic? and do you make a profit?

Thanks.

[Technics]

Gcities - You know something .... Your playing right into the trap. Your acting like the moron people want you to. Who in there right mind would host with an immature child who cant make his mind up if hes banner free or search box free.

You have proved to me and maybe many of other people that your a host who doesnt have a clue ..... You related to the guy at thinkhost?.

*yawns* me tired need coffeeeeee..... 72 hours no sleep.

[stu]

Originally posted by Technics
Gcities - You know something .... Your playing right into the trap. Your acting like the moron people want you to. Who in there right mind would host with an immature child who cant make his mind up if hes banner free or search box free.

You have proved to me and maybe many of other people that your a host who doesnt have a clue ..... You related to the guy at thinkhost?.

*yawns* me tired need coffeeeeee..... 72 hours no sleep.

listen to technics.. he know's from experience. :)

[Gcites]

The members complained so i took it off isnt it plain simple?

[Technics]

Maybe i do maybe i dont stu hehehehehe .....

Gcities.... if your members asked you for a dedicated server would you give them it just cos they asked?.

[Epgs]

I think he would. Would any free host. Well anyway i think a search box is an ad (even though apparentaly he doesn't have it anymore)

[Chicken]

As Ron has said about a billion times, there is nothing worng with putting an ad on your users pages. Look at Geocities and Tripod, Xoom (no more), etc. Last I checked, they all had ads (some reeeeally irritating ones too).

Money is what is going to make you a good, solid, fast FWP. Without it, you'll be *poof* in no time. People who want dependable ad-free space can pay for it. Meanwhile, you should attempt at making as much money as possible to buy another server, upgrade this and that.

Geocities might have ads, but I've never heard complaints they they are slow. I know my angelfire account way back in the day was just fine.

Point is, don't offer ad-free space because people want it- of course they want it. Pay your bills and get some money to expand!

[keith]

my username is weezer, of course

[KNK]

Originally posted by Chicken
As Ron has said about a billion times, there is nothing worng with putting an ad on your users pages. Look at Geocities and Tripod, Xoom (no more), etc. Last I checked, they all had ads (some reeeeally irritating ones too).

Money is what is going to make you a good, solid, fast FWP. Without it, you'll be *poof* in no time. People who want dependable ad-free space can pay for it. Meanwhile, you should attempt at making as much money as possible to buy another server, upgrade this and that.

Geocities might have ads, but I've never heard complaints they they are slow. I know my angelfire account way back in the day was just fine.

Point is, don't offer ad-free space because people want it- of course they want it. Pay your bills and get some money to expand!

I agree ... people can't just expect a really fast server and a rich featured FWP falling from the sky and into their laps. Their is a price for everything and if ads is what you need to put on your FWP then go for it.

[Christy]

What do people have against banners anyway?

[neyral]

they're big, ugly, & soemtimes(as is always) interfere with the deisgn. People see big corporate sites without banners, so they think "why do we gotta have em!! No fair" Although, those big corporate sites pay for their webspace.

[Chicken]

Some pay dearly! I can understand the argument of messing up the pages, but you'll also notice that many corp. sites do have banners, and that the sites are designed with a space for them. Some designers get pretty creative and make the banner area fit in nicely and look pretty good!

You just have to know the limitations of the medium you are designing for. It might mean that you can't have a framed site (not a bad suggestion anyhow). Other than that...

Just don't search for ad-free web space, only to put your own banner ad on it than makes less than $20/mo. If this is the case, then you'd usually be MUCH better off going with a FWP with an ad that has better servers. Think of it as saving yourself the $20/mo paid hosting fee.

[LawTown Junky]

i agree totally with the whole banner thing.
people who complain about banners dont have no designing ideas
they just copy what other people have done
and usually what they copy is ad free
and then when they set there site up on a fwh
they got banners and they screw up there site because it wasn't designed for having banners
and the whole frames thing
frames suck
with frames all your doing is making yourself more banners to give you a headache
jus think about what your doing before you make your pages
and add space in your design for each thing you need to have on the page including banners
and you should be fine
and you can quit -----ing about fwh tryin to make money
or jus stop being cheap and pay a host for space
and for all you really cheap bastards
go to http://www.websolo.com and order there solo2 plan 7 bux a month and u get alot of space but no cgi etc
u gotta pay more for that
but most fwh dont give you that either
kus if you site is realy that that important than shell out a bit for it
if not then deal with banners and shut your mouth

[Gcites]

For $10 bucks a month you can get 40mb, cgi, php, mysql, coldfusion and the works ;)

[Technics]

And the point to that post was what?......Bar spam.

[Webdude]

Yeah and? For $25 one time fee you can get all the same at WorldzonePro.net(except CF). Quit spamming your services Gcities or everyone else might feel they have the right to do so also.

[Technics]

Forgive me if im wrong but dont jaguarpc only go upto 10gb bandwidth ? how can u run a fwp on that?.

[Gcites]

Technics you are very funny :) you can have custom deal with them for a dedicated server on a 3mb pipe do you even want to see an email from them? why are trying to prove so many people wrong. You and ron must be friends :(

[Technics]

Well you may have done that sorry and if your on a dedicated server why not use your own nameservers to look more professional?.

Me and Ron friends? dont even know him only ever seen him on these forums.

Oh and do read the message i have posted on your forum do feel free to delete it but i do a screen shot :).

Shucks its gone already. feeling guilty yet?.

[Edited by Technics on 11-21-2000 at 06:19 PM]

[Gcites]

Technics do you think i was going to keep that post there? its not very wise. Discuss such matters thru email.

[Technics]

Why through email?. Don't your users have a right to know your using illegal software . There now ask one of the moderators to delete this post.

Want a copy of allmanage or are u going to go host hoping until your clients get fedup of moving?.

[Webdude]

Yeeouch! Illegal software to run a server?? You have to be crazy to do that.

[Ron Seigel]

Oh and do read the message i have posted on your forum do feel free to delete it but i do a screen shot :).

How bout a link to this 'screen shot'! I'd like to see this as well. :)

[Gcites]

Hahah fools :) no one cares anymore because http://host50.com is here it owns you all gcites to!

[Ron Seigel]

Why do you insist on making yourself look like an --- here time and time again? You're a disgrace. Do you honestly think anyone would want to do business with someone as unprofessional as you? Grow up and learn how to run a business. You're representing your business here. We can trash you all day long and all we're representing is ourselves. Do you understand the difference?

[Gcites]

Btw i do not run any illegal software as far as i know i can give you the reciept.
Run a business haha i do this for fun :)

[Tim]

Run a business haha i do this for fun
Hmm...would I trust someone to host my site if he doesn't even take it seriously? NO WAY!

By the way, could you please stop using those stupid emoticons in every post? It's :) getting :) very :) annoying.

:)

[Gcites]

WOW! your site is so serious! the internet is a joke and one day the internet will be no more as there will be another form of technology how can take the internet serious lol go get a girlfriend and go out :) bye everybody :)

[Ron Seigel]

Thank you for showing your true colors. Now everyone here can go on with their lives and not even consider you as a viable host. I certainly hope Peo will think twice about listing you in the database. You certainly don't deserve to be there since you obviously don't care about any of the sites you have hosted. Bad day for them when you decide being a FWP isn't 'fun' any more and you shut the whole thing down (and that day will come - it always does). You might not take it seriously but I'll bet a lot of your members do. Truly pathetic!

[Tim]

Originally posted by Gcites
WOW! your site is so serious! the internet is a joke and one day the internet will be no more as there will be another form of technology how can take the internet serious lol go get a girlfriend and go out :) bye everybody :)

:) :)

LMAO. Please stop it! :) :) You're going to make me cry. :( :(

How old are you anyway? I'm guessing by your incorrect grammer,punctuation, and general stupidity....maybe 13?

And actually, I do take my site seriously...I really can't say the same for you though. What software are you using illegally? Shouldn't your users know this? :) :)

By the way, what kind of name is GCITES? Is that some sort of rip off of GeoCities?

[Edited by Tim on 11-21-2000 at 11:37 PM]

[Chicken]

Going... going... *poof*