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Jump
July 13th, 2004, 07:24
All you people that write they need this and that and then people reply to it, im sorry to tell ya but those are no real Companies, real Companies have set packages and do not makes packages for people. So think about it if you really wanna trust someone that makes packages as the client want's that's not normal for serious Webhosting Companies.

Trel
July 13th, 2004, 08:07
That isn't true at all. Some businesses that are legally incorporated make their business model to serve all customers with a glove fit. ;)

Jump
July 13th, 2004, 08:10
No not really all large Companies do not offer Costomized able Hosting plans they all have set Packages. I Never seen a serious and large Company give Costimized able Hosting plans.

To that real Webhosting Companies do not have goggle ads unless they have a partnership with google and it would be a diffrent add they have. Second no real big Company has a Forum unless they sell forums them self.

vizhost.com
July 13th, 2004, 08:18
I am sorry but I would suggest you learn some grammar and spelling before you start to inform everyone of what a "real" company does.

If a company wants to offer a different price, then that is their choice.
Are you telling me car dealerships are not considered real business because you can negotiate the price?

We don't necessarily make up custom packages, we offer what we have set.
However if I wanted to, I can create a custom package. And guess what, we are incorporated in Delaware.

Don't believe us? You can check on their official site: https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp

Many large businesses offer customized packages. Nac, HE.Net, XO.
You think you can't get a certain amount of bandwidth and power from them?

I would research a bit more before you start accusing of businesses not being "real"

Jump
July 13th, 2004, 08:21
Viz im sorry but your writting just proofs to me that your a little boy trying to act big. I never said they are no real Companies i said most Large Companies do not offer that kinda services so id be careful if id trust ones that offer it. So learn to read.

WebCash
July 13th, 2004, 08:24
proofs lol. but no one is you your 1 out of billions and no one will listen especially to a person with 5 posts.

Jump
July 13th, 2004, 08:25
I don't care if anyone listens to me

vizhost.com
July 13th, 2004, 08:28
I see you didn't even bother to read your own post.


all large Companies do not offer Costomized able Hosting plans

First off, its customized, not Costomized.
Second you completely ignored my grammar suggestion as you are still writing putting Caps in front of words that are in the middle of your sentence.

Little boy? I'm not even going to bother as you have no evidence of this, yet blatantly accuse me of it.

vizhost.com
July 13th, 2004, 08:30
If you do not care, then why waste everyones time by posting and continuing to post.

Especially mine?

PixelHosting
July 13th, 2004, 08:54
That's not true... I know professional dutch webhosting companies that make custom packages for the companies who take hosting there. What you are saying is not true... There are even hosting companies that do not show any prices or packages on their site, simply because they don't have them. You need to contact them in order to discuss what the customer needs so that a custom package can be offered and eventually accepted.

WebCash
July 13th, 2004, 08:59
look if people didnt change there plans they wouldnt make money or they would make very little. i bet if you emailed a company with a set plan and said your plans dont meet my needs they would adapt them everyone would they would be stupid not to as they would be losing money

vizhost.com
July 13th, 2004, 09:29
look if people didnt change there plans they wouldnt make money or they would make very little.

hehe, im sorry but i have to disagree to this as well. i think your getting a bit to general. what you said doesn't really apply to all companies or businesses. We havent changed our plans or prices for almost 2 yrs.

Yet we are making money. =)

Riverworld
July 13th, 2004, 14:48
You know what comes to mind here?

One of the biggest datacentres in Sydney, Australia.

It's run by one of the largest telecommunication providers in Australia - and they set up custom products and systems for the large companies that are under them.

So your saying, a company that customises deals with large organisations, that run websites that nearly control a countries economy isn't considered a 'real company'.

I'm thinking... instead of trying to enforce and prove pointless things on everyone else, I would make the friendly suggestion that you go play outside for a little while. ;o)

kaliboy2g
July 13th, 2004, 14:51
Define a real hosting company? I host about 12 accounts, have a reseller, have a whole page up, a TLD, and make money. I am a real hosting company and i provide mostly custom plans. I have some set plans that i figure are used most but i still give out custom plans.

And do you run a hosting company, if not, then how can you preach to us about hosting companies?

CareBear
July 13th, 2004, 15:03
If you think large webhosts generally don't provide custom plans, it could be because they already have a few thousand clients. With an already established client base it matters less to them if they get a picky new client or not, but I doubt that any of them - except a small minority - would actually instantly dismiss a request for a custom plan.
On the other hand, when you only have a few dozen clients, it makes sense to try and appease your new customer by offering them a custom made plan.

The fact that they offer a custom plan doesn't make them bad, it's what the offer entails that matters.

vizhost.com
July 13th, 2004, 15:46
Couldn't of said it any better care.

I think as long as you have legal records, pay your taxes and do things legit, you are a company.

You don't necessarily need to make money to be considered a real company.

kaliboy2g
July 13th, 2004, 15:56
Even that, i do have paid sales, just not many, does that mean i am not a real company

Archbob
July 13th, 2004, 19:11
Actually, many large webhosts do hang around here and they will take special offers. Myacen and solidinternet is one good example. Even valueweb I saw around here a few times.

trenzterra
July 14th, 2004, 02:50
Yeah, define a real company or a serious one. As far as I know, Wynhost is both real and serious. Not to mention that we are a registered company in Singapore. And all our shared plans are customisable. I think you are sterotyping against us, and most probably haven't seen many hosting companies yet.

x8r
July 15th, 2004, 17:29
All companies bargain, customize, and compromise for customers, it doesn't matter how big the company is. It's the way the world works. I'm not talking about this from a web host prospective either, I'm talking as someone who deals with very large companies on a daily basis in a completely different business. Some are more stubborn than others but there is always some kind of compromise involved in business.

TopQHost
July 15th, 2004, 22:17
he went silent :D

Johnson
July 16th, 2004, 00:28
Who are you to define what a real company is? You dont even have one. Although I dont do custom packages I think its wrong for you to basicly say "Your giving a special package? Heh, your not a company at all, your just a pale loser in your parents basement..."

R4g1ng
July 18th, 2004, 10:42
Whoa! Reading all the posts by jump, he sounds like a 10 year old kid as a lot have mentioned lol. I'll just summarise why this guy is Lame, stupid and...stupid! (sorry if I'm a bit harsh)

1) Doesn't even own a company
2) Won't listen to the other posts
3) There is no such thing as companies that are not "real"
4) Many companies do custom packages. Even big professional ones.
5) Custom Packages will mean more clients (maybe)

I don't own a hosting company but I kind of own a design site. And I do custom packages because I know that the packages I provide are probably not what all people want. And so, to make it make it nicer for the customer, I make custom packages.

Sorry if I was a bit harsh lol

Decker
July 18th, 2004, 11:18
I don't care if anyone listens to me
Then don't speak, as a professional hosting company we provide what our customers require, right down to individual services. That's what a professional company does, so your very mixed up.

Standard packages are more convinient, but if someone requires something in between we will accomodate.

Basically time for you to learn and not speak :shame:

Webdude
July 19th, 2004, 11:45
I think the point he was trying to make was that no real company would sit around on these forums waiting for requests so they can kiss up to every one of them. With that, I agree with.

I have read requests that were just posted, and can refresh the page and there's already a "cut & paste" reply by some hosts. It's fine for first getting started in hosting (IMO), but as you get larger, you see it as kinda immature for people to be doing that.

JodoHost
July 19th, 2004, 13:03
I'm sorry but I find hosts making custom < $5/month offers ridiculous and sad to see what the hosting industry has come to. I think next someone should make a site where a customer can post their requirements and web hosting companies bid, lowest price wins

We offer custom packages, but on nothing less than managed server deals or large reseller accounts. Offering custom plans on anything less is unfeasible and unprofitable for us.

PixelHosting
July 20th, 2004, 06:49
JodoHost, that's the magic of "economics".
Lots of hosts, lots of offers, means prices will get lower...
You won't be able to stop it :)

Webdude
July 20th, 2004, 12:01
I'm sorry but I find hosts making custom < $5/month offers ridiculous and sad to see what the hosting industry has come to. I think next someone should make a site where a customer can post their requirements and web hosting companies bid, lowest price wins

We offer custom packages, but on nothing less than managed server deals or large reseller accounts. Offering custom plans on anything less is unfeasible and unprofitable for us.

Dont worry, the ones that offer gigs and gigs of space and bandwidth for like $0.99 per month dont stay in business long. I know the ones that do it sit there and tell their friends "I can offer what even the big hosts cant". Well, it's not that other hosts cant, we simply know it's not good economics and it's hard to make a profit that way....which is the name of the game.

Maybe a better question is...... how many companies actually give a damn about you if they arent making a reasonable profit off you as a customer? Simply you being a customer isnt enough. That profit is WHY companies strive so hard to KEEP you as a customer.

Jump
July 22nd, 2004, 08:03
I think the point he was trying to make was that no real company would sit around on these forums waiting for requests so they can kiss up to every one of them. With that, I agree with.

I have read requests that were just posted, and can refresh the page and there's already a "cut & paste" reply by some hosts. It's fine for first getting started in hosting (IMO), but as you get larger, you see it as kinda immature for people to be doing that.


Yes i was trying to make that point but some people on this forum are to damn stupid. So i wont bother to even reply to their stupid and rude remarks.

R4g1ng
July 22nd, 2004, 08:08
Well, they don't sit around I bet...if they see a request they can fulfill, they offer...easy enough.