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Dean
July 20th, 2004, 20:27
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml

Biblical Inconsistencies
Compiled by Donald Morgan


GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).

GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.

GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.

GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.

GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born.
GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time).
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.

GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him.

GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.

GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings.
JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing.

GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac.
HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son.


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I wish i was armed with these years ago

Robert
July 20th, 2004, 20:32
So? The Bible wasn't written by God. It's a story told by others.

Fuzzylogic
July 20th, 2004, 20:41
its more of a historal context, at least to me anyway.

stabme
July 20th, 2004, 22:03
it's more of a story that you interpret. mainly a morality book.

spec
July 20th, 2004, 22:24
What version of the bible did he use?

Dean
July 20th, 2004, 23:23
The "good news" one?

darkcurves
July 21st, 2004, 11:26
So? The Bible wasn't written by God. It's a story told by others.

Exactly, it was writen by humans.

Ben
July 21st, 2004, 13:06
Exactly, it was writen by humans.
And, as we all know, humans aren't perfect. Except maybe stu. stu for President, 2008!

darkcurves
July 21st, 2004, 13:29
And, as we all know, humans aren't perfect. Except maybe stu. stu for President, 2008!

Wow, you really do admire Stu, maybe even your God. :wink2:

Webdude
July 21st, 2004, 13:39
I'm sure most are like this...

GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

Let's read #19
Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.

Tell me how that states man was created before the birds? It says he HAD formed the birds. I take it the birds were already created.. they are putting the wrong emphasis on the word "Now". They have done this same thing in most of the cases. You also have to take into account that the meanings of words have changed as language has evolved. For example, the word "gay" once meant "happy". A lot of wording used in the Bible have changed in meaning. So you have to read stuff in it with that in mind.

Decker
July 21st, 2004, 14:44
To be honest every version is different and really it's a personal interpretation, the main reason I can't imagine why any religion ever took off except for weak minds :(

spec
July 21st, 2004, 15:09
Every version is translated differently, its all based on the same original scrolls and what not, and as for "The "good news" one?" From what I have read so far, these examples are missinturpreted, missunderstood, or taken out of context.

trenzterra
July 22nd, 2004, 01:28
And, as we all know, humans aren't perfect. Except maybe stu. stu for President, 2008!And I daresay he won't be re-elected in 2012.

wahyudi
July 22nd, 2004, 08:03
Why discuss BIBLE in freewebspace.net?


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byrdgirl13
July 22nd, 2004, 16:27
They're running out of ideas...

jmiller
July 22nd, 2004, 16:34
Why discuss BIBLE in freewebspace.net?


_In case you didn't notice, this is the "General Discussion" forum.

We are free to discuss the bible. :rolleyes:

Fuzzylogic
July 22nd, 2004, 19:18
at least we can see who ever wrote the bible obviously had really bad grammer skills.

Webdude
July 22nd, 2004, 23:27
at least we can see who ever wrote the bible obviously had really bad grammer skills.

The people who wrote it were some of the most educated of the day. Most people couldnt even read or write back then. All the translations factor in also. I'm sure even with the most accurate of translations, much of it is nothing of what it originally was. I do know for some of the words used, there is no translation of it to modern language, so they substituted words, which affects it quite a bit. Even the oldest versions of the Bible (which modern Bibles are translated from) are translations themselves, as the original text is not only long gone, but also of a lost language dialect.

Dean
July 22nd, 2004, 23:31
Surely over time someone would of corrected them...

spec
July 23rd, 2004, 00:06
The bible is not written in chronological form, infact it jumps around quite a bit. Examples such as this:

GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel.
GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel.
are not valid. If you read the section verses 21-32 could spred anywhere from 100 years to 1000 years. Nor does it say how many years span between Chapters 10 and 11. Chapter 11 starts out: "Now the whole world had one language and a common speech..." So it indicates at that time, it doesnt say whether it coincides with the timeperiod of Chapter 10. Of course I havent spent much time reading Genesis.

Conscript
July 23rd, 2004, 00:17
Uh, the bible wasnt originally written in English, so I am sure some things got lost in translation and in rewriting over the thousands of years, you must pardon at least some of the technical contradictions.

Also each book is written by different people or whatever so they all describe the same events a bit differently. Think of them as accident reports. You can have a whole block witness an accident and when the cops come around to collect testimoney everyone will describe it somewhat differently.

darkcurves
July 23rd, 2004, 01:08
I agree.

TRUNKS
July 23rd, 2004, 07:10
I watched a documentery on the New Testament a while ago... 'Parts have been added, changed and even deleted.'

X.x

trenzterra
July 23rd, 2004, 07:43
All these IMO are opinions, not fact. So I think it's quite alright to be contridictory. It isn't history.

Robert
July 23rd, 2004, 07:47
No not opinions. Different people wrote the book, yet they all shared similar incidents, therefore, something must have happened.

And yes it's history. Just because you WEREN'T there, doesn't mean it wasn't. We don't have hard facts on how the Egyptians built the pyramids, so it's not history? We don't have hard facts on how Stone Edge was done, all guesses, so that's not history either?

trenzterra
July 23rd, 2004, 07:58
No not opinions. Different people wrote the book, yet they all shared similar incidents, therefore, something must have happened.

And yes it's history. Just because you WEREN'T there, doesn't mean it wasn't. We don't have hard facts on how the Egyptians built the pyramids, so it's not history? We don't have hard facts on how Stone Edge was done, all guesses, so that's not history either?
But the Bible does not consist of only facts, there are opinions as well. If those were facts, they would fail the test of consistency.

Robert
July 23rd, 2004, 08:29
But the Bible does not consist of only facts, there are opinions as well. If those were facts, they would fail the test of consistency.
No they wouldn't. If me and you were both a concert and you remember your version of the concert and write it in a book and I write my version of the concert, it isn't an opinion. It's selected memory, not an opinion.