The Mysterious Blue Spot

[polestar]

Look! In the border near the top on the left hand side.

Has this subject been brought up in the past?

I thought it was some dust on the screen!

Does it have a mysterious purpose?

Would its removal render this site inoperable, or worse?!

Should I be ashamed that I don't have anything else to keep me awake at night, sobbing until sleep at last relieves me of this horrific burden...........:confused:

[lucifer]

Kewl

it's a link to an alternative universe - go on try it :cool:

[polestar]

Amazing. I think it's a rift in the space-time continuum.

[meow]

Here you can see the gateway to the stars in splendid isolation: http://www.freewebspace.net/blank.gif
And it's linked to index.php?s=

Go figure. :p

[Coolin]

It's probably one of those webbugs that people use to log our internet usage and stuff. Privacy is gone nowadays.

[LeX]

Go figure...

Maybe it's a training utility that you can use to practice your accuracy in clicking. ;)

[Epgs]

yeah now that is cool

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by LeX
Go figure...

Maybe it's a training utility that you can use to practice your accuracy in clicking. ;)

It certainly was hard to click on. Hard to find too. Ive been to a few Ikonboards with the same little dot, except it was white.

[Coolin]

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Hmm... I don't seem to see a webbug there. Perhaps it in the javascript somewhere else in the site. But I don't think I can find it because I don't know Javascript :(

[LeX]

I don't think it has anything to do with JavaScript.

[Coolin]

The image itself has nothing to do with Javascript. But the tracker that kills our privacy perhaps has something to do with Javascript. Hasn't anyone read the c|net article, or any other article on webbugs and how they are triggered by 1x1 pixel images?

[DroidCollector]

Maybe if you put a little white out on your screen it will go away..

[LastActionHero]

that is just a ploy used by most websites to rank higher in the search engine rankings. Most search these days don't even look at META tags and infact look at tags like alt img etc. Notice the alt tag for the image. or maybe it is some vbulletin error.

Only Peo can clear the mystery.

[LeX]

If you blotch it out with white out, then the tiny blue spot will go away all right. What you will get in return is a big blob of white stuff that doesn't move no matter what. (the blue spot moves when you scroll)

[<|R0cKm@nX|>]

maybe its juz a image to stop the html to get messed up. i mean...
i am doing a new layout for my website and there is also a problem which if i remove a <img src="...> thise tag, the border whiteline of my layout will not appear. but if i would to put the tag back, the whiteline on my site will appear. i dun even know why it this so :( :confused:

[LeX]

Are you using tables?

[<|R0cKm@nX|>]

of course i use tables
its hard to do a layout with no tables :(

[LeX]

Then there's your answer. Tables tend to do that - it will automatically resize (if you don't define a definite value) based on what it's surrounding and a user's screen resolution.

[<|R0cKm@nX|>]

oic ;)

[LeX]

So this is what I do: Make a transparent 1x1 gif file, and then insert it in the appropriate place and define its width and height as needed.

[<|R0cKm@nX|>]

same as wat i did but i never make the transparent file. i juz put the <img src...> tags but the graphic source actually link to nothing

[Coolin]

Umm... Guys. That's what <table width and height are for>

[cowax]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe you need to put something in between the <td> tags for the table width & height to work... or atleast that's what I need to do.

[polestar]

That's correct cowax, but why not just have a simple white pixel there? Or a white period?

[lucifer]

&nbsp;

[lucifer]

that was

& n b s p ;

without the gaps

[LeX]

No, the <table width and height> means the max the table size can go, if you fill it up. If you don't have anything, then it becomes a thin line.

[Coolin]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I always put "& b s p ;" in there. It's better than a 1x1 pixel :)

[LeX]

But with the gif you can change its width and height accordingly. You can't do that with the & nbsp ;

[atlas]

Originally posted by cowax
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe you need to put something in between the <td> tags for the table width & height to work... or atleast that's what I need to do.

It's a Netscape thing. IE will render the background of the cell regardless of whether it has content or not. Netscape only renders the background if there is content in the cell.

-mk

[atlas]

Originally posted by Coolin
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I always put "& b s p ;" in there. It's better than a 1x1 pixel :)

In most cases that's bigger than a 1x1 gif, and thus isn't good if you want to generate a thin line on the side of a table, etc.

-mk

[atlas]

Originally posted by LeX
No, the <table width and height> means the max the table size can go, if you fill it up. If you don't have anything, then it becomes a thin line.

Actually, Coolin was right, the table height and width should set it that size, but as I pointed out in an earlier post, it just isn't rendered. The size of the cell will still still work.

-mk

[keith]

if you view a vbulletin using the default setup, there's usually a title image there. peo must not want it there, so they made it a 1x1 invisible gif. that's why it's an image, and not a " & nbsp; " tag

[meow]

Originally posted by atlas


Actually, Coolin was right, the table height and width should set it that size, but as I pointed out in an earlier post, it just isn't rendered. The size of the cell will still still work.

-mk

Actually HEIGHT isn't even standard and has never been. So it should do nothin'.

[LeX]

Originally posted by keith
if you view a vbulletin using the default setup, there's usually a title image there. peo must not want it there, so they made it a 1x1 invisible gif. that's why it's an image, and not a " & nbsp; " tag
But why link it?

atlas, I dunno, but just setting the width and height without putting anything in the cells just don't work for me.

[atlas]

Originally posted by meow


Actually HEIGHT isn't even standard and has never been. So it should do nothin'.

I know that the height attribute isn't standard, but of course I'm not supposed to use the font tag either. I make pages work for the browsers, not the W3 validator :)

LeX: I don't know, works for me, but...

-mk

[LeX]

What browser do you use?

[meow]

Originally posted by atlas

I know that the height attribute isn't standard, but of course I'm not supposed to use the font tag either. I make pages work for the browsers, not the W3 validator :)

Uh...my point was that since it isn't standard what rule says it should work in the way you state it doesn't? :confused:

[atlas]

Originally posted by meow

Uh...my point was that since it isn't standard what rule says it should work in the way you state it doesn't? :confused:

Should work based on observations of how most browsers operate.

In IE5, Netscape 4.76, Netscape 6, and Opera it properly draws the height of the table even without anything in the table. Now, I don't rely on this while making my pages (and shouldn't!): I usually create a new column that's one pixel wide and put a nice tall spacer in there if I want it to be at least a certain height.

http://dev.atlascgi.com/table.html


-mk

[meow]

Oh, I thought that was what you based "...it just isn't rendered" on.

LOL! Forget it. I wasn't arguing how it works, I tried to make a joke about what you actually said.

[Coolin]

Originally posted by LeX
atlas, I dunno, but just setting the width and height without putting anything in the cells just don't work for me. That's what the nbsp ; is for...
Even if you want the table to be one pixel high, the nbsp ; doesn't mess it up. And it loads faster too! ^_^

[lucifer]

Alas the blue spot is no more. I feel like I am mourning the end of an era

[LastActionHero]

Originally posted by lucifer
Alas the blue spot is no more. I feel like I am mourning the end of an era

Man that post must have taken a lot of hard work.

[lucifer]

It\'s easy when you know how

[LastActionHero]

yeah but what about having to change color after every 2 characters?

[lucifer]

Just trying to brighten up the boards a little bit ya kno

[Coolin]

Is some sort of script to do this?

[meow]

nàáh. NÒt3pÄÐ Å|| Th3 Wâ¥! :D

[polestar]

:(

I finally got po'd with that correction fluid on the screen, scratched it off and the spot's gone!

Is it still there, just white? :confused:

[jw]

OK, i thought i was going crazy cuz i didn't see it, guess i was too late.

[Coolin]

Nope, it's not there anymore. Not even white.

<!--<a href="index.php?s="><img src="http://www.freewebspace.net/blank.gif" border="0" alt="FreeWebspace.net Community"></a>-->

I guess Peo removed it.

[lucifer]

what just commented out not killed for good - there's hope it may return :D

[Coolin]

Originally posted by lucifer
what just commented out not killed for good - there's hope it may return :D
That's the kind of hope I don't like...

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by Coolin
Nope, it's not there anymore. Not even white.

<!--<a href="index.php?s="><img src="http://www.freewebspace.net/blank.gif" border="0" alt="FreeWebspace.net Community"></a>-->

I guess Peo removed it.

Poor Thing! i feel like I lost a friend. I wonder whatever became of the poor little dot.

*sigh*

[Coolin]

Don't worry. Your friend's not gone. It's just hiding.