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ditterdi
June 5th, 2001, 15:43
In another thread it was mentioned that namezero claims it takes 3 months to release a domain after expiration ACORDING TO THE RULES.
So I asked Icann about the rules and got this reply:

Dear Leo,

Thank you for your inquiry regarding expired domain names.

ICANN has not yet adopted a uniform policy concerning the handling of
expired domain names. Still, all registrars are required to comply with the
Registrar Accreditation Agreement
<http://www.icann.org/nsi/icann-raa-04nov99.htm>, section II.J.5 of which
provides as follows:

"Registrar shall register SLDs to SLD holders only for fixed periods. At the
conclusion of the registration period, failure by or on behalf of the SLD
holder to pay a renewal fee within the time specified in a second notice or
reminder shall, in the absence of extenuating circumstances, result in
cancellation of the registration. In the event that ICANN adopts a policy
concerning procedures for handling expiration of registrations, Registrar
shall abide by that policy."

Based on the above provision, registrars are required to "release" names
after a second notice and a grace period, unless there are "extenuating
circumstances." These terms aren't defined in the
accreditation agreement, but some examples of situations that keep names in
limbo are payment disputes, ownership disputes, or lawsuits. Sometimes
names appear to be expired but remain unavailable for re-registration for
months, (or even years.)

It is possible that the registrar is either just working
slowly or simply overlooked the name. It requires an affirmative act to
remove a name from the registry; names don't just delete themselves after a
certain time. Sending formal (or multiple) inquiries to the registrar may
succeed in getting a particular registration cancelled.

Best regards,
ICANN

patrickw
June 5th, 2001, 19:37
Actually, names DO automatically remove theirselves from the registry sometimes.

OpenSRS will automatically purge deleted names 45 days after expiration. NetSol has the annoying habit of turning them over to GreatDomains.com, and I have no idea what Namezero does with domain names.

atlas
June 5th, 2001, 20:02
Originally posted by patrickw
Actually, names DO automatically remove theirselves from the registry sometimes.

OpenSRS will automatically purge deleted names 45 days after expiration. NetSol has the annoying habit of turning them over to GreatDomains.com, and I have no idea what Namezero does with domain names.

I checked for the one that I wanted to register from NetSol, and it wasn't listed at GreatDomains. They seem to like giving the current registrants over a year of free service.

-mk

Chicken
June 6th, 2001, 13:27
Originally posted by patrickw
Actually, names DO automatically remove theirselves from the registry sometimes.

OpenSRS will automatically purge deleted names 45 days after expiration. NetSol has the annoying habit of turning them over to GreatDomains.com, and I have no idea what Namezero does with domain names.

Errrrr... I think you might have missed something. Point is that the name itself does not remove *itself*. OpenSRS purges the names (this is the "affirmative act to remove a name from the registry").

patrickw
June 6th, 2001, 21:47
The point that I intended to make is that registrars should have a SYSTEM to release expired domain names and stick to it. OpenSRS has a method that is used to release domains that seems to be automatic.

I think that EVERY registrar should be consistent in releasing domains. It's known far and wide that NetSol has no real method of doing this.

Atlas, I had a domain registered with NetSol a few years ago that worked fine for SEVEN MONTHS after the expiration date. Then, they finally pulled the plug. Like you pointed out, I'm sure there are people who have enjoyed longer periods of having a free domain that I did.

Chicken
June 7th, 2001, 19:32
And why should NetSol? With OpenSRS, if they decided to keep the name (whether or not the owner wanted it), they'd be out another $6 to the registry. Think NetSol pays itself $6/yr/each domain?

When you have ICANN'T running things, with apparently no interest in passing guidelines to level the playing field, what do you expect? :(

This annoys many people, not just me, not just you. *sigh*