I've seen the light...Dreamweaver!

[jiminsd]

I finally dug down in my pockets and bought Dreamweaver and Fireworks. Wow! I know there are other views but in my mind there is no second best.... It is definitly in a class by it self.

[Epgs]

yeah if you have that kinda money but personally i like the old notepad.

[hcarlson3]

Now the real challenge...learning all the features that they have to offer...I love them also, bought the whole Macromedia Web Studio last year for like $240 (Academic Discount)

[Gayowulf]

It certainly helps, and makes things easier, but knowing some raw HTML sure is an asset. It enables you to extend dreamweaver even farther.

[meow]

I don't know. Think it's a matter of how your brain works. For me a button heavy program like DW is more pain to learn than to do it myself. But I do believe it's the best of it's kind, from what I've seen of it.

[lucifer]

Dreamweaver is very nice - I use it lots - all the javascript stuff is f****d though as it don't work with NS6 apart from the rollovers. but to get the best from it you need to be prepared to hand code stuff too.

I like fireworks it's nice though you'll need some other graphics programs to complement it. Why is it that tI have to have so many different programs to do a simple job???

[Baggio]

well, it is a handy tool, but the html is creates holds too much rubbish code, so u need to know html to take some of the garbage out...

otherwise it takes a hell long time to load the page

[lucifer]

dreamweaver writes pretty tight code - OK quite a lot of indenting but that makes it more readable

sure you aren't thinking of some pile of crap like that micro---- thing f**kpage which really does make a pigs ear of something and creates html with the same skill as word.

you do need to rewrite some bits yes but on the whole it's pretty good

[gyrbo]

I use dreamweaver too. At first, it's kinda scarry. But after a while, when you know the main thing is at the bottom toolbar (I placed it at the top).

[ultimate]

im use dreamweaver ultradev 4
Dreamweaver i realy a geat program first i didn't know how to use it but now i can use it with my eyes close

[someone else]

I'm a Textpad (excellent replacement for Notepad) user myself.

However, I have Adobe GoLive 5, which I use occasionally for basic design work. Great tool for figuring out the basic layout of a new site and such, and I have even chose to use the code it spits out on occasion when I'm lazy. The code it gives is pretty slick, though it overuses some unnecessary tags which I wouldn't normally bother with.

[Dry Ice CO2]

I've been hearing a lot of good things about Dreamweaver, but I'm still gonna stick with Notepad.

Although, if any of you know of a program that works like notepad, but color codes different tags, checks for accidentally unclosed tags and quotation marks, and can automatically make my page source more "tidy" by doing stuff like indenting where necessary in tables, for example, I'd love to get my hands on that.

- Dry Ice CO2

[bigperm]

www.editplus.com

hell, even cute html does that.

[}:8) Supermoo]

I'm still saving for the Academic version of Dreamweaver... In those short bursts of 30 day trials I get sooooo much web desgin done! It's a true pleasure... although then it goes... :(

[lucifer]

a friend told me he was once surfing and went to some site and it 'crashed' his demo and the clock just never ran out anymore :(

[}:8) Supermoo]

If you're talking about illegal cracking... no thanks. Although it dosen't sound like it... but how can you visit a site in Dreamweaver?

[jiminsd]

I tried the free 30 day run and then decided to buy it. I have noticed that the paid verision loads much quicker that the free one. It is probably the 30 day counting part of the program that slows down the load time.

[meow]

:D

[lucifer]

:confused:

[meow]

:o
Posted in the wrong place. Thank you for pointing it out.

[sinstailor]

yeah i always end up using only free progs..........so i use frontpage express.........then i clean it up in html kit......finally i remove redundant code in notepad.............it always seems you gotta use 3 programs to get one job done right....same with graphics i love corel but i like using paints simplicity...then i use psp for batch and convertings..........animated gifs thats a whole nother ballgame............

[sailorjoto]

If you ask me (which no one did), I think it just makes you lazier.

[Archbob]

I have MM Dreamweaver, adobe page creator, MM freehand, etc and they certainly have their adavantages, but I still use notepad most of the times for updating and fixing errors. HTML is still essential and javascripting is a great asset.

[sinstailor]

what's lazy about using a tool box full of tools........instead of only having a single screwdriver ?????

but we are all still lookin for that elusive swiss army knife......

[lucifer]

Originally posted by sinstailor
what's lazy about using a tool box full of tools........instead of only having a single screwdriver ?????

but we are all still lookin for that elusive swiss army knife...... you maybe wanting the swiss army knife but I sure don't I want the right tool for each job. Yes this means having at least 5 graphics programs as a start. I don't think you can get one prog that will do it all. You want ones that specialise in different things.

I have 7 graphics programs I use regularly this is before any 3d modeling software

[meow]

Anything that works for you guys...:)
You don't forget put put the buttons on your pages, I hope? Made with editor1, editor2, editor3 with a little help from editor4 and myself. ;)

[lucifer]

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

[Akalon]

Heh, I would have paid for dreamweaver, but considering I don't earn any money, I decided to download the full version... ahh, the wonders of the internet! :p

It is a great program though, although I prefer the layout of FrontPage Better... just don't like all those stray buttons.

[gyrbo]

DW is a good comibation of code and wysiwyg. That's the reason I use it. Oh boy, I really have to learn Photoshop, Fireworks and freehand.

[meow]

The first editor I used was a WYSIWYG called Splash! and I thought it was Mega Cool (for about 2 weeks). Anyone knows it?

[gyrbo]

Never heard of it. BTW fireworks is pretty cool. I made some crappy logo with the build in EyeCandy.

[Gayowulf]

Splash! was the first WYSIWYG editor too. then i used spiderwriter, then something else then finally dreamweaver.

[meow]

You used it?!: Now I luve ya. :)
I remember I used Splash!, Tarantula and maybe 2 more alternating them, because what I didn't understand to do in one a maybe understood in another. Then I pasted it all together. :cool:
I was lucky, and stumbled on some essay actually mentioning 'structure' and 'rules', which none of the tutorials I had read did, and I saw the light. Hallelujah! Praised be the w3c and the ascii gods!:p

[Weapon]

ahhh sheeeesshhhh I will just stick with my frontpage 2000 that seems to do every thing wrong

[gyrbo]

I use HomSite now, pretty good progy! ASCII though.

[venusdream]

I feel old-fashioned. I still use Notepad. I never seemed to find anything else I really liked that much.

[timdawg]

i use one of those geocities page builder thingies.................................................... .......JOKE!!!!
i generally use notepad, although it gives me a headache

[meow]

Originally posted by Weapon
ahhh sheeeesshhhh I will just stick with my frontpage 2000 that seems to do every thing wrong
Delete "seems", weeps! ;)