AD FREE! Why it will never work.

[Max]

One gigabyte of traffic roughly cost 3 dollars today on a professional network.

Anyone out there exept F2S might offer it because they can pay for the hosting as they have other revenue streams. But obviously F2S have their problems too. And what if they decide to exploit their only revenue stream they do not earn any money on?

Webhosts that do offer banner free accounts and cannot justify the 3 dollar per gigabyte price is obviously unprofessional webhosts that are more run as a hobby than a stable and fast service.

Webhosts that run on home DSL or CABLE will die sooner or later, and just like that, without any warning what so ever. And yes, hosts like that allow any kinds of content and they offer it all banner free.

They can do that because they already break their upstreams terms of service. Home DSL and CABLE accounts for 30 bucks a month is not made for hosting services. The 30 dollar price is calculated on a per user basis, where the user only is calculated to have very little transfer, probably no more than a few Gigabytes.

When the upstream notice the high volume traffic or get the first complaint about the service. It will not even take them a split second to pull the plug.

It makes me angry to read some of the posts in this forum. People searching for Adult, MP3 or any traffic intense storage, and they do not want to do squat. Not even have a banner or not even a small text link on their page. Nothing, they just want to get everything for free. Without any effort. No one will ever pay for your traffic.

I just have one thing to say, grow up..

But then, kids will be kids.. and play around anywhere it is possible, even on the digital playgrounds of the internet.

Free distribution of media files can only be successful when exchanged on a peer to peer basis. Where the traffic is limited to and payd by the actual user.

Max

[Max]

Too scared to post any replies?

i am telling the truth..

look at what DK3.com did.. ofcourse they had to do it if they are serious..

/Max

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by Max
Too scared to post any replies?

i am telling the truth..

look at what DK3.com did.. ofcourse they had to do it if they are serious..

/Max

Not that we are scared, we just know it already, and have posted similar comments, in shorter form. Most of what you said Is really quite obvious. I hear where you are coming from.

[meow]

In fact I think you got a lot of input on this subject when you announced your webhost here. The one you first said would have optional ads, later changed to only have ads when people downloaded files, remember?
Looks like you've seen the light now. ;)

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3969
http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4952

[Max]

Ad free is just a way to get alot of signups in the beginning.. there still is the advertising free option, only people that actually put some work into supporting deserves the right to be advertising free..

/Max

[Hoth]

Originally posted by Max
Ad free is just a way to get alot of signups in the beginning..

That's what some of us don't like... it's fine if you recognize that you can't afford to be an ad free host, but hosts that intentionally try to trick people into signing up by saying it's ad free are 1000 times worse than an honest host that has ads. Personally, I don't like places that use the bait-and-switch tactic. Of course, most people should be smart enough to wait a month or two and not sign up with a brand new ad free host, but for some reason I still don't particularly like liars. :rolleyes:

(A company like Free Prohosting or tbns.net that admits from the beginning that they're ad free but may have to switch to ad supported in the future is fine with me, though. As long as they don't make any absolute promises that they're going to break. [Read: Crosswinds])

[meow]

Originally posted by Max
Ad free is just a way to get alot of signups in the beginning..
Are you aware of that you are saying this to the same people that you tried to get to sign up with that "promise"?
Think you just put your foot in it, as far as reliability goes. What's next? Promises about CGI ad FTP were also "just a way to get alot of signups"?

[Max]

For your information, we hired one of the creators of Homefree who will begin working for us june the 15th.

A promise is a promise, we have not modified anything from the original scripts because they will be rewritten to support all the features YOU need.

FTP support and CGI will be implemented in the end of June or early July..

It is not as you cannot use php or upload via the web..

/Max

[Max]

And the fact we always inform our users whats going on.. does it make us bad?

You know.. we are still ad free for sites that meet our requirements and follow the rules..

so we are still AD FREE for people willing to make a slight effort...

/Max

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by Max
For your information, we hired one of the creators of Homefree who will begin working for us june the 15th.
/Max

Ahh yes homefree. ;)

I am beginning to consider "ad free" and especially "unlimited space" as warning flags, or foreshadowing to an uncertain future.

Max, was your first post just to justify your own host?

[Max]

No..

it was because all of those can you host all my mp3 or porn for free and i will do absolutely nothing posts that makes me angry..

I feel sorry for all of the hosts being kind enough to allow such hosting, as if they do it means they are not going to be around for so long.. doesent matter if they justify it wiht banners or not..

/Max

[Michael]

None of the big free webspace providers are paying 3 dollars.

I'm not even a web host and I pay less than 3 dollars.

Most hosts are paying around a dollar .... give or take a few cents.

If people are paying 3 dollars a gig they are either stupid or such a small host they aren't making any money.

[Max]

Ofcourse the big hosts get a discount,

This is a small webmasters forum.. i dont think Geocities comes in here and talk with us.

Example:

Stick with a host with good peering around the world, take uunet (worldcom) for example, T1 costs 1150 bucks a month.. a T1 is how many gigs a month 350?

Thats about 3 dollars per Gig..

Ofcourse this price will be lower the more bandwidth you get.. as you get a rebated price then..

/Max

[cowax]

Originally posted by Max
For your information, we hired one of the creators of Homefree who will begin working for us june the 15th.


You can't get any worse of CGI scripts than what Solution Scripts makes up. Top Site Pro is buggy and all around sucks and Homefree is a joke.

[Ryan_man]

I'm not saying ad-free is the best way to go, infact i'm against it. Ad-free hosts sooner or later just get so many sign-ups they can't handle that they close down sign-ups, keeping loyal webmasters out.

I think the best ad service are banners. They're quick, clean, and they don't really bug the visitor, unless it's really enormous and ugly. Pop-ups are just dumb. And so are those e-mail ads that show up once a day. ( They are so huge ).

Spaceports comes to mind when I think about the best ad service ever. I mean, it's a small banner, and you get to place it where you want it. This means you can build your site to provide the banner at the top with some nice graphics around, or even just impliment it into your design.

What it comes down to, is that people just want to have control, this would be the best way for everyone. Places like Freeservers or even Geocities are just plain anonying. You haveno control over the banner placement, therefor, keeping your page as an "amateur" looking page. Anywho, that's my opinion on ads. Mabybe i'm wrong, I dono.