source4webmaster.com

[Weapon]

anyone use them before they seem to support quite alot of stuff, php, mysql, cgi, ssi 75mb and alot of other stuff

[Epgs]

yeah but their signup is really wierd.

[curiousity]

I tried to sign up and have found that they are a scam. Why?? This is the true story. I have spent so much time signing up affiliates for them since they require you to have 10 sign ups with them before they can activate your account and set up the FTP for them. Well, I spent so much time signing up and I KNOW for sure that I signed up for at least 10 to fill my end of the bargain, but they email me back saying that I did not truly sign up. I was PISSED OFF after this because I spent so much time signing up and made them some money and they don't even activate my account. They are scams!!!.....take the money that you made for them from your sign ups...and don't even activate your account. Watch out!!

[niv]

their service is as legit as freededicatedservers.com :p:p:p

[Epgs]

oh good i am on my way to signup right now.

[niv]

l:Dl

[ducktape]

they sound like a good honest fwp.

[niv]

well i just signed up right now, hope it's for the best (i didnt sign up for any of that crap mentioned by JustinSurfer) :D

[meow]

*lol* ;)

[Weapon]

I just signed up to them, but if they make me sign up to any of those services so they can get money, then they can just kiss my booty:D

[M Elliot]

Look guys, S4W is a legitamate host, and the services they provide are fantastic. It's not a scam, but the whole thing is sorted by a single guy, and he has to deal with tons and tons of requests and applications for hosting. If your site is of really low quality, or doesn't follow the site's guidelines then obviously he doesn't want to waste his money on buying bandwidth and space for you. It doesn't have to be the coolest site on earth, it just can't suck ---.

As for the 'support programs' those are needed basically to pay for the site. Once it gets going it shouldn't need as many, and will end up probably not needing them at all. Of course it's all down to choice, whether you would like to have to spend an hour signing up for programs, or pay $100-$200 for the same quality hosting.

~Mark
S4W Team

[martian]

So it is not a scam? Hmm ...

[TheWizard]

Originally posted by curiousity
I tried to sign up and have found that they are a scam. Why?? This is the true story. I have spent so much time signing up affiliates for them since they require you to have 10 sign ups with them before they can activate your account and set up the FTP for them. Well, I spent so much time signing up and I KNOW for sure that I signed up for at least 10 to fill my end of the bargain, but they email me back saying that I did not truly sign up. I was PISSED OFF after this because I spent so much time signing up and made them some money and they don't even activate my account. They are scams!!!.....take the money that you made for them from your sign ups...and don't even activate your account. Watch out!!

The exact same thing happened to me too!!!

[curiousity]

Originally posted by M Elliot
Look guys, S4W is a legitamate host, and the services they provide are fantastic. It's not a scam, but the whole thing is sorted by a single guy, and he has to deal with tons and tons of requests and applications for hosting. If your site is of really low quality, or doesn't follow the site's guidelines then obviously he doesn't want to waste his money on buying bandwidth and space for you. It doesn't have to be the coolest site on earth, it just can't suck ---.

They checked my site and they decided that it was good enough to host it and then they sent me an email requiring me to sign up with at least 10 of their affiliates program to make money for them. I don't think they have "tons of requests" as to be too busy because they email me back telling me sign up for 10 of their affiliate program in a very short time.



As for the 'support programs' those are needed basically to pay for the site. Once it gets going it shouldn't need as many, and will end up probably not needing them at all. Of course it's all down to choice, whether you would like to have to spend an hour signing up for programs, or pay $100-$200 for the same quality hosting.


I really don't mind taking the time to sign up for 10 of their affilate programs because I realize that they do need to earn some money to keep their hosting service up. BUT the thing that PISSED ME OFF is that they take the money that I earned for them from my sign ups (all 10 of them because my e-mail is now filled with full of junk mails sent from 10 of those affiliate programs that I signed up) and won't even activate my account. Furthermore, when I asked them how much more do I still need to sign ups they don't even answer my e-mail for 2 days after repeated emails were sent. If they are nice enough, they should just sent me an e-mail telling me how much more I still need to sign up, just in case some of the sign ups did not go through. Again, I know that all 10 went through because I have the proofs in my email. I probably made for them more than $10. I just wasted all of those time signing up for NOTHING!
So watch out folks!!! This is a scam!!! You will be PISSED OFF if you try to sign up. This is the first time that I have wrote something bad about a certain free web host.

[M Elliot]

Ok, I must admit I'm not the guy who sorts through the applications, but there are a ton of people pleased with our service.

There are instructions in the auto-responder to compile an email with the comfirmation emails (ovbiously removing passwords) and sending those in. Anyway -- it shouldn't be that hard, and I'm pretty sure if your site is decent then Jim (the Admin) will set up your site.

He is constantly sorting through emails -- and the reason that you got emailed back so quick is probably because you caught him just as he was checking...

Really, it is a good service and worth while, it is not, and I will repeat, NOT A SCAM.

[TheWizard]

Originally posted by M Elliot
Really, it is a good service and worth while, it is not, and I will repeat, NOT A SCAM.

If it's not a scam, then why was I and others rejected after we DID sign up for 10 affiliates, and told that it's because we DIDN'T?

[curiousity]

Originally posted by M Elliot

There are instructions in the auto-responder to compile an email with the comfirmation emails (ovbiously removing passwords) and sending those in. Anyway -- it shouldn't be that hard, and I'm pretty sure if your site is decent then Jim (the Admin) will set up your site.

This is what I got from my email after my first application:

Congratulations, you have been accepted into being hosted by
Source4Webmasters.com. We would appreciate your help in supporting us,
if you havn't done so already, by signing-up for the free stuff found
at http://source4webmasters.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=46
(You're supposed to sign up for Ten of those Program before we give you
your FTP and subdomain)


So this mean that my site was decent enough to be hosted.
Also, I always confirm the email that was sent to me by those affiliates. Now I have tons of junk mails from those affiliates and get nothing in return. So frustrating!!! :mad:





Really, it is a good service and worth while, it is not, and I will repeat, NOT A SCAM.

It looks like a good service from all the features that are posted on the website BUT it is a scam because it does not set up the account after you sign up for 10 of those affiliates to make money for them. At least have the decency to tell the people that have signed up how many more affiliates need to be sign up and which affiliates have been received. You just can't take the money that was earned from the people that have signed up for your affiliates and run. That is not nice and not professional. :mad:

[xttdx]

Originally posted by TheWizard


If it's not a scam, then why was I and others rejected after we DID sign up for 10 affiliates, and told that it's because we DIDN'T?

dude.. chill out! along with the rest of the ppl here claiming "scam scam"! geeze! perhaps there was something wrong with the script or there were too many users and it was messing up! ever think of that? hell no! your too damn ignorant to think of anything like that! personally, i have had great service from this site and honestly, it is the best FREE site out there! yea, you gotta sign up for a few things.. but thats nothing compared to what you get in return!! so you go have fun having banners/pops on your site with other hosts! ill stay with source4webmasters.com for my hosting! later losers!

Jay
aka
Tic Tac

CEO/Founder xttdx corporation

[martian]

Originally posted by M Elliot
Really, it is a good service and worth while, it is not, and I will repeat, NOT A SCAM.

I think you have to convince us a little bit more.
A lot of people think you are a scam

[TheWizard]

Originally posted by xttdx
dude.. chill out! along with the rest of the ppl here claiming "scam scam"! geeze! perhaps there was something wrong with the script or there were too many users and it was messing up! ever think of that? hell no! your too damn ignorant to think of anything like that!
The responce I got when I said I already signed up for the programs was some like that:
You're bull----ting me. You haven't signed up for that
I guess that can't be an auto-responder...


personally, i have had great service from this site and honestly, it is the best FREE site out there! yea, you gotta sign up for a few things.. but thats nothing compared to what you get in return!! so you go have fun having banners/pops on your site with other hosts! ill stay with source4webmasters.com for my hosting! later losers!
If you don't mind, please show me your site @ source4webmasters.com, so I and everybody could see that someone has really signed up succesfully...

[meow]

Originally posted by M Elliot

As for the 'support programs' those are needed basically to pay for the site. Once it gets going it shouldn't need as many, and will end up probably not needing them at all. Of course it's all down to choice, whether you would like to have to spend an hour signing up for programs, or pay $100-$200 for the same quality hosting.]

$100-200 is maybe what you hope to get for all those signups. It's hardly what we would have to pay for the same "quality" hosting.
You must learn the difference between debit and credit, Mark. :D

[LeX]

Originally posted by TheWizard
The responce I got when I said I already signed up for the programs was some like that:
You're bull----ting me. You haven't signed up for that
I guess that can't be an auto-responder...
Hey, who knows, maybe that's just what the auto-responder was configured to say! :D

[Anjay]

How can you say the service is a scam???
I use my site with them!

http://ffpagoda.source4webmasters.com

And I find them very good to use! They're helpful amoung other things!
So I don't know what you're talking about!

They said they'd host my site, I signed up for the 10 things, tol them which things I signed up for, and then E-mailed my FTP details and all to admin@source4webmasters.com and it was done!
So I don't see what your fuss is about!
I get barely any spam from the affiliates! And what I get I just delete!
Their service is really one of the best!!

[Bruce]

wow, this service is looking even more promising now. the service is so great i get a forbidden are when i try to go to your site :rolleyes:

[LeX]

Well, if you look at the subject, you will notice that there's a letter of a difference between the two urls. Then again, I can't connect to the server @ source4webmaster.com, compared to the forbidden notice @ source4webmasters.com.

[meow]

Originally posted by Anjay
How can you say the service is a scam???
I use my site with them!
What a coincidence that you signed up for this forum just now! Amazing! :D :rolleyes:

[Logik]

1 - First it's not a scam !!!
2- Second all he does is ask you to sign up to affilates to pay the host...
3-He told me the servers down today and hopefully will be back up soon. I had my site hosted there and it was good. I know a lot of us had sites there. I think there was about 30 of us. When he had forums it was even cooler. I was there from the beginning of the site...:eek:

[silverstarfish]

How could it be a scam?

Someone is kind enough to give away free web space, without banners. No-one has been signing up with the affiliate programs, so they have been forced to make people sign up for them to cover their expenses.

This doesn't sound that unreasonable!

:mad:

[Logik]

They don't force you to sign up. They just suggest it. My friend had an account too and he didnt sign up for any of them. He was just a nice guy.

[Truth]

LMAO at all you ignorant people

You all just annoyed because you didnt get accepted
i can spend half a hour explaining the good points about S4W.com
but i'll break it down for you
they DO NOT force you to sign up for anything, you do that of your own accord, even if you do sign up, it is YOUR choice on how many to sign up for

You seem to be complaining about S4W and forgetting the fact that it is a FREE service, how else do you think it can remain free?

Their technical support is first class, quickest i've ever had, e-mails are replied to in less than a hour!

If you want to complain then why dont you all just go and pay $100 a month for the same service?

Stop -----ing and give the man a break

I'd like to see any of YOU lot doing the same

[TheWizard]

Originally posted by Logik
They don't force you to sign up. They just suggest it. My friend had an account too and he didnt sign up for any of them. He was just a nice guy.
Oh yeah? So why was I rejected because he claims that I didn't sign up for these programs?
IT'S A SCAM!!!:mad:

[Truth]

Originally posted by TheWizard

Oh yeah? So why was I rejected because he claims that I didn't sign up for these programs?
IT'S A SCAM!!!:mad:

Well you sound like a whining -----, guess they dont like jackasses that moan all the time,

maybe you should contact the admin if you like to ----- so much
admin@source4webmasters.com

[Anjay]

People keep telling me to be careful of what I say, but I can't help it. The people are making me say rude and horrid things to them, they're physically making me!

This is not a scam, and it was not a coninsidence that I signed up meow.

I think this is one of the best servers! Although today it was down, servers are allowed to be down at certain times are they not?
You shouldn't say anything if you don't have proof. And I have plenty of proof that this server is the best FREE one out there, it has over 30 happy customers, and what more can you ask for? It's not its fault that it's down today, it's Source4Webmasters hosts fault.


And who has real proof that it's a scam eh, no one exactly! My point proven! And to the last posters poster, it's because only afew people actually give the money so he selected the list and only the ones from the new list works.

Plus those signup things/places are a load of crap, I was doing research with some of my friends today, about those affiliate things (some on Source4Webmasters, and plenty of others), and most of them give you the money for afew weeks, then cut off the account, and leave you thinking the account is still open when it was cancelled and making you wonder why no one signs up or clicks on banners. This could have happened but it may have not. But this is what actually happens with most banner places, so this may be the reason of him not knowing you signed up. I personally don't know the FULL length story so I can't say. But I can say of what I know.

[curiousity]

Originally posted by Truth
LMAO at all you ignorant people

You all just annoyed because you didnt get accepted
i can spend half a hour explaining the good points about S4W.com
but i'll break it down for you
they DO NOT force you to sign up for anything, you do that of your own accord, even if you do sign up, it is YOUR choice on how many to sign up for

You seem to be complaining about S4W and forgetting the fact that it is a FREE service, how else do you think it can remain free?

Their technical support is first class, quickest i've ever had, e-mails are replied to in less than a hour!

If you want to complain then why dont you all just go and pay $100 a month for the same service?

Stop -----ing and give the man a break

I'd like to see any of YOU lot doing the same

This is what I get in my email when I first sign up:

Congratulations, you have been accepted into being hosted by
Source4Webmasters.com. We would appreciate your help in supporting us,
if you havn't done so already, by signing-up for the free stuff found
at http://source4webmasters.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=46
(You're supposed to sign up for Ten of those Program before we give you
your FTP and subdomain)

-------------

Do you understand English??? Do you know how to read??? They do force you to sign up for 10 affiliates before they can host your site. So yes, they do FORCE you to sign up for the affiliate programs.

Why is it a SCAM??? Let me answer that. It is a scam because people sign up for the affiliate programs (at least 10 of them) and then the people at S4W don't set up for the account. You said that is is FREE, but you are forgetting that people are taking the time to sign up with the affiliate programs, earning some money for S4W, and receive a whole bunch of junk mails, and get nothing in return. That is why it is a SCAM. You take the money earned from other people signing up and run with that money to support your webhosting. NOW do you understand why it is a SCAM!!!!

[Truth]

yeah anjay good point, how many free hosts can you name that offers the same services?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Exactly! NONE

they do not make you sign up for anything, its just appreciated if you do

this site is full of hypocrites, freewebspace....yet you still moan about little petty things, do you expect twin p3 servers, a billion trillin bandwidth and space all served on a plate?

pathetic fools

[M Elliot]

Ok -- It is saying we suggest you support us, and in exchange by supporting us we provide you with hosting...note that we are not forcing you to do anything. You chose to sign up for those programs to recieve a benefit in doing so, not the word CHOSE. That means that you yourself made the decision to do so.

Also, nobody forced you to do anything like use your main mail account. There was no reason for you not to sign up for a hotmail account and sign up for the support programs using that, that's what i would do.

And PROOF THAT IT IS NOT A SCAM, the following sites are or are in the process of being hosted: (not they are the first part to the subdomains...so it would be the following SITE.source4webmasters.com)

idream
lyricalwarzone
squaregamers
tukang
Avatar
pokemon
hardewaren
freestylerex
poo
securegeek
infotech
mcsheep
burnersparadise
kaoru
gab1982
juniormx
rpgnebula
nemohackers
visualdev
teen2k
ultimate
blinkone8two
caliloveboard
liverclubs
gmek
gamehq
eprod
logik
tutorials
gamersdream
ffpagoda
rapzone
----end of list----

For those of you who didn't know, it is www.source4webmasters.com -- please realise it does have an s.

If you think it's a scam then don't sign up, it's your choice, and frankly, the bandwidth would better go to somebody more appreciative and less acusative.

I hope we've managed to change your mind about what S4W really is, if we havn't I am deeply sorry for you.
-Mark

[Truth]

Originally posted by curiousity


This is what I get in my email when I first sign up:

Congratulations, you have been accepted into being hosted by
Source4Webmasters.com. We would appreciate your help in supporting us,
if you havn't done so already, by signing-up for the free stuff found
at http://source4webmasters.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=46
(You're supposed to sign up for Ten of those Program before we give you
your FTP and subdomain)

-------------

Do you understand English??? Do you know how to read??? They do force you to sign up for 10 affiliates before they can host your site. So yes, they do FORCE you to sign up for the affiliate programs.

Why is it a SCAM??? Let me answer that. It is a scam because people sign up for the affiliate programs (at least 10 of them) and then the people at S4W don't set up for the account. You said that is is FREE, but you are forgetting that people are taking the time to sign up with the affiliate programs, earning some money for S4W, and receive a whole bunch of junk mails, and get nothing in return. That is why it is a SCAM. You take the money earned from other people signing up and run with that money to support your webhosting. NOW do you understand why it is a SCAM!!!!


Well I know people haven't signed up and have been accepted. It says supposed to meaning they would like. You can take anything and make it prove what you want. I have hosting and so do over 30 others so I really don't feel scammed. I can see where you're coming from cuz you didn't get your FTP up, but if you just thank the guy you'll be surprised what happens. They do have to pay the bills somehow. I had my UBB up yesterday and it works great. Fast too

I don't know how you can say they force, since I know people that haven't signed up for the Affiliate programs and so does Logik, therefor it cannot be forced

It comes down to if you want to be nice and thankful or be a Jackass and pay $100. I would rather be nice but its your choice. Im sure if you email Jim he would look at your situation and set it up. Cj logs are slow sometimes. I'm a member of CJ myself (that's what he uses) and sometimes they don't show up for a week.

[curiousity]

Originally posted by Truth



Well I know people haven't signed up and have been accepted. It says supposed to meaning they would like. You can take anything and make it prove what you want. I have hosting and so do over 30 others so I really don't feel scammed. I can see where you're coming from cuz you didn't get your FTP up, but if you just thank the guy you'll be surprised what happens. They do have to pay the bills somehow. I had my UBB up yesterday and it works great. Fast too

I don't know how you can say they force, since I know people that haven't signed up for the Affiliate programs and so does Logik, therefor it cannot be forced

It comes down to if you want to be nice and thankful or be a Jackass and pay $100. I would rather be nice but its your choice. Im sure if you email Jim he would look at your situation and set it up. Cj logs are slow sometimes. I'm a member of CJ myself (that's what he uses) and sometimes they don't show up for a week.

First, the word "suppose" does not mean "optional." I understand that a web host has to generate money to survive. That is general knowledge. So I don't mind taking the time to sign up the affiliates and generate some income for S4W. BUT what PISSED ME OFF is the fact that they send me an email back saying that I did not sign-ups. They are accusing me of not signing up at least 10 when I infact did sign up. The feeling of being falsely accused is not good. For instance, you said that you have about 30 people hosted by you and people here said that you are a SCAM, and you don't like it because you feel that you have been falsely accused. So why did you go and accused other of not signing up for the affiliate programs. You got a taste of your own medicine and now you don't like it. You keep saying that it is just optional to sign up for the affiliate programs, and some even said that some people got the account activated without even fulfilling the 10 affilitate sign-ups. THIS IS AGAIN NOT FAIR!...because some people like me took the time to sign up for the affiliate programs, being wrongly accused of not signing up, and got nothing in return. You said that the comissionjuction.com delay the stats on the sign-ups, then why don't S4W tell you that instead of accusing you of not signing up?

[M Elliot]

Ovbiously this whole thing is a huge misunderstanding. If you have signed up for the programs, email a composite email to mark@source4webmasters.com. Unfortunately the site is down today, and the mailservers are out but I will check once they are back up. Once we've verified you really have signed up then we will set up your account.

The difference is that we did not say we would provide hosting without verification of you signing up for programs, whereas you claimed you signed up for programs and simply expected hosting, the difference is that we did not say something and then not hold true to it.

[YUMAMA]

I notice that source4webmasters.com is hosted by lexton.net. So when Lexton.net is down. You are also down. Right now your hosting is down and so is Lexton.net.

Does this mean that you buy the hosting account from Lexton.net and then turn around and host other sites?

[M Elliot]

Originally posted by YUMAMA
I notice that source4webmasters.com is hosted by lexton.net. So when Lexton.net is down. You are also down. Right now your hosting is down and so is Lexton.net.

Does this mean that you buy the hosting account from Lexton.net and then turn around and host other sites?

That is exactly what we do, and we do it openly. Lexton.net knows this, and it is plastered over many pages of the website.

[Johnny]

If you really want to get revenge report him to CJ.com.. cause i know asking for ppl to click or sign up for a sponsor is illegal!.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by M Elliot
Ok, I must admit I'm not the guy who sorts through the applications, but there are a ton of people pleased with our service.

There are instructions in the auto-responder to compile an email with the comfirmation emails (ovbiously removing passwords) and sending those in. Anyway -- it shouldn't be that hard, and I'm pretty sure if your site is decent then Jim (the Admin) will set up your site.

He is constantly sorting through emails -- and the reason that you got emailed back so quick is probably because you caught him just as he was checking...

Really, it is a good service and worth while, it is not, and I will repeat, NOT A SCAM.

yeah right! if you don't sign up for those sponsors you don't get free hosting.. you don't call that a scam.. and you also need ot have a webpage.. isn't that a more scam!! why would you need that if you not going to place banners in the future? hmm.. suspious.

how do you know after using it for one month or 2 you account not going to get tos to free up some space?

[M Elliot]

You need to have a webpage so we can see that your page is of adequate quality.

Think of it more that if you sign up for 10 or more programs through our site that you are recieving a reward...we are rewarding contributions you make.... NOBODY is forcing you to do anything -- you don't want free hosting as a reward for signing up for programs, don't sign up for programs...no hosting...

[leonmagnuz]

yeah,don't signup it's just a scam...i already sign up with the affiliate programs (about 10 or more) and he still don't sign me up...he didn't reply me either ! :mad:

and i have a website too with about 500 hits per day,so why he didn't want to sign me up ? because it's just a scam ,of course.He just want to attract people to signing up the affiliate program...

[Johnny]

LOL! stop protecting your scam.. you know what happen when you scam.. I bet more ppl are reporting to the sponsors than hosted sites there..

[Truth]

It's obviously not a Scam if people are being hosted. Damn, Are you retarded? It's alright to tell people not to sign up because you weren't catored to within your time range, but don't claim it's a Scam. I'm hosted and therefor it's not a Scam. Oh well, you people are Fatasses that are wasting your lives eating Food and following the crowd. Look @ the facts and make your own mind...They just suggested signing up would help the site. He said most of the hosted sites didn't sign up. If you signed up, just wait. It took my account 3 days to get up. He's a busy guy, He is going to host my domain when they get their own server too. He was also going to offer Free Domain hosting, but I really doubt he'll be so kind now that people show their true colors. He posted on the forum once, that the Free Stuff wasn't going to be there much longer, He just was going to have them up the first month and that's it, then add some staff and they'd be accepting sites more rapidly. It's too bad this site won't be running anymore. At least I get my domain hosted when they get their server.

[Truth]

Originally posted by Johnny
LOL! stop protecting your scam.. you know what happen when you scam.. I bet more ppl are reporting to the sponsors than hosted sites there..

hy would you report someone who was trying to be nice? If you seriously don't think what he offered to 30 people was nice, then you're pretty strange. I'm sure if you waited to see if your application was approved when the site and mail servers get back up (They were down all today), he'd probably host you. He's upgrading to a Huge Server he will own in less than a Month so they'll have room for so many more sites. They're going to load up like 512 IP's he told me, so they will be hosting a lot of domains, although he won't buy them for you.

[Johnny]

if it not a scam what is it? you 12 year old.. when you tell someone to sign up for a serivce and don't give them what they where promise its a scam..

1 seneriao. "we will create the account tonight, please help us out and sign up for these 10 stuffs" I dont' sign up, cause I have not time or i sign up for only 2. And u don't guess a respond which means "no hosting for you cause I asked u to sign up for 10 stuff you only sign up for 2.. so f*ck you bi*tch" "sucker thanks for signing for 2 stuff, i just earned $1.89 hahah" you telling me thats not a scam..

it still a scam..

[Johnny]

well truth, to tell you the truth,
I sign up.. but I didn't sign up for any of those stuff.. I asked have you setup my account yet? he repley, you haven't sign up for any of the sponsors.. so you telling me that also ain't a scam.. so doesn't me he host 30 ppl, and not hosting 1 person for not signing its not a scam... maybe you to young to understand how scam works, and what it means.

[Truth]

Originally posted by Johnny
if it not a scam what is it? you 12 year old.. when you tell someone to sign up for a serivce and don't give them what they where promise its a scam..

1 seneriao. "we will create the account tonight, please help us out and sign up for these 10 stuffs" I dont' sign up, cause I have not time or i sign up for only 2. And u don't guess a respond which means "no hosting for you cause I asked u to sign up for 10 stuff you only sign up for 2.. so f*ck you bi*tch" "sucker thans for signing for 2 stuff, i just earned $1.89 ahah" you telling me thats not a scam..

its the same sh*t as taking you money and not giving you a computer and.. thanking some other guy money, and giving him a computer.. it still a scam..

hmmmm

fickle kiddy
are you illiterate? sure sounds like it, they dont PROMISE to host you, also check the guidelines, they reserve the right to revoke any services, so in theory your space could have been taken down before you even saw it

also your quotes seem a little vain, jim seems an intelligent person unlike you good for nothing ------s

[Johnny]

hey truth,
I fell you pain, don't cry.. and don't start flaming now.. I bet after he "revoke" your space cause he need room for other webmaster aka suckers. you will say why didn't i listen to the mature johnny. Well i don't know if you stupid or anything.. but he clearly stats "please sign up on our sponsors, right after that we will setup your account" right after ou sign up nothing happen.. isn't a broke promise? Yes!

So kid go to bed its very late..

[Truth]

Originally posted by Johnny
well truth, to tell you the truth,
I sign up.. but I didn't sign up for any of those stuff.. I asked have you setup my account yet? he repley, you haven't sign up for any of the sponsors.. so you telling me that also ain't a scam.. so doesn't me he host 30 ppl, and not hosting 1 person for not signing its not a scam... maybe you to young to understand how scam works, and what it means.

One last time for u thick people IT IS NOT A SCAM IF PEOPLE ARE BEING HOSTED,

one more time for tha dyslexics like Johnny

DEFINITION 4 SCAM - BEING CHEATED OUT OF MONEY AND NOT RECIEVING PROMISED SERVICES/GOODS

does jim cheat anyone out of money? NO

point proven

If some of started being nicer ti jim then i'm sure he's consider hosting you when he gets his server, my friend is hosted by jim, and he only had decent content but he was NICE and THANKFUL

by the way jim great service, there needs to be more people in the world like you

PEACE

[Truth]

Originally posted by Johnny
well truth, to tell you the truth,
I sign up.. but I didn't sign up for any of those stuff.. I asked have you setup my account yet? he repley, you haven't sign up for any of the sponsors.. so you telling me that also ain't a scam.. so doesn't me he host 30 ppl, and not hosting 1 person for not signing its not a scam... maybe you to young to understand how scam works, and what it means.

Well, i'm sure you were demanding or didn't get your point across like now. I can barely understand you. When his sites back up, just resubmit it to admin@source4webmasters.com and be nice. Give him lots of details and if you have good content I guarentee you'll be accepted.

[neXt]

Well, as far as I can see the people -----ing about S4W being a scam are either trying to bad mouth it for no particular reason or are so grossly incompetent that they can't even manage to fill in a few forms right.
I am hosted at S4W, as far as I can see it is a guy with his own server who generously hosts sites made by your average Joe, free of charge. The only thing he does ask so that he can maintain and run his server is that you generate a little revenue for him and give him some god damn common curtsey!!
My site was nothing special, I requested to him and got an email back the next day (speaking of which, I always get next day replies from every email I send) and then I signed up with as many services I could, and wallah.

I would advise anyone looking for a great host to ignore the people on this board who I hope have had a lobotomy (for their sake) and request hosting, be nice, do your part and enjoy!! :)

[Truth]

John, Listen. When the site is back up, resubmit your application to either admin@source4webmasters.com or just use the form. If you're nice to him and say "I love your service, My site is about Blah blah. I love your design too. Thanks in advance for hosting me."
He just wants people to be nice/Decent. Being demanding really doesn't help also take a little while to wait. My friend didn't get his for about a week. It's worth it though.
I really don't see the point of claiming a scam, I guess if this is the point of your life, Great. Good for you, although it's pretty sad. If you just waited for the site, and resubmit it, then if you are all nice and say thanks and nice words alot and he still doesn't host you, Then call him a Scam

I'm confident if you have a good layout and are nice you'll get hosted

My friends sites layout wasnt that good and I know all he did was be nice. It's kind of like with teachers @ school (Wait-you're uneducated I forgot), you're nice to them so you get a better grade...It's true, if you suck up in life, You get rewarded

[Johnny]

Well, I don't blame you if you like kiss butt, I don't blame you if you support the unfair treatment, and the discrimincation that site is practicing. But for me, I don't kiss butt to scammers.. i only kiss but to stuff that is well worth it.. I don't know why you think a sub domain hosting, that probably gonna last 1 week is worth it.

Well i guess you used your brain and defined scam.. But thats not what it really means!!! if you use your brain and look in the dictionary, this is what it means!

"A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.

tr.v. scammed, scam·ming, scams
To defraud; swindle."

if you to stupid to know that.. there scheme is to promise hosting if they sign up for sponsors.. and they broke there promise there for its a scam!!! go back to school!

[Johnny]

I shut you up good!!! now you have nothing to defend yourself.. so shut up.. Don't respond, cause your next respond will be stupid as the last one.

[Truth]

First off, KissButt is something a 5 year old would say. They don't discriminate...They just look @ every site. Subdomain hosting is worth it when you get
-MySQL php Perl5, CGI Bin, and 75MB storage. If you don't need that then why apply? You obviously don't know about those. Also, i'm getting my domain hosted for Free. A domain only costs $8. And he was going to offer this for other people, but require a once week pop-up. Subdomain hosted sites wouldn't have to have it, but Domains would.
I think the guys nice, if you want to claim on the scam, And not support him because of your assumption, I don't see your logic...

My point is that if you resubmit and nice and you have a decent layout, I doubt you have a good clean layout that follows the rules, then if he still doesn't accept you, then call him a Scam. And it would be legit.

[Johnny]

well .. decicding on to choose which webpage is nicer and hosting is discrimination!!! look at the dictionary!!! and for god sake stop respond to my post.. cause you make yourself look stupid.. and less intellgent. And stop using "intellgent"words to make yoruself look like it.

[Truth]

They have the right to refuse sites that suck. Duh, are you retarded?

Intelligent words?
Oh yeah i forgot, normal language is hard to understand for you dyslexics!

HAHAHA

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth


My point is that if you resubmit and nice and you have a decent layout, I doubt you have a good clean layout that follows the rules, then if he still doesn't accept you, then call him a Scam. And it would be legit.

O please!! stop making yourself look stupid! people sign up and was told to sign up for sponsor , they did and didn't recieve hosting.. now you think that is not a scam? then you are and mentally change person. now stop trying to protect them.. cause ever respond your make are hipocrtical.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth
They have the right to refuse sites that suck. Duh, are you retarded?


WTF does that have to do with scam.. I don't care if they refuse site that suck. But the fact is that, even those the site suck or not! he still tell people to sign up and promise hosting.. and didn't give any! now that is a scam! the End.

[Truth]

It's you're not your...But wait, you're smart you should know that. You're the one who sounds like a Retard. I dont think you understand that 30 people are hosted.....How can you say people aren't being hosted? They were right on the site and Mark even gave a list or someone did.

Listen how 'bout we make a deal? When his server is up again or when he sets up his own server you sign up for Free Hosting, Don't sign up for any Free Stuff (If he even has those), and just be nice. If he doesn't host you, I'll say it's a scam too. If he hosts you, then you be honest and say it's a great host. I'm confident he'll host you if you have a decent layout.

[Truth]

If you don't agree to my previous post, I really don't even think you signed up. To the people before though that really did have trouble, Just do exactly what I told our smart friend Johnny. I'll go on your side and say it's a scam if he doesn't host you after you're nice to him and don't sign up for the Free Stuff. He's a nice guy and I think people need to open their eyes. It's a real shame, that people assume things too fast. I want more sites hosted when he gets the new server so i'm linked on more sites and so I get more hits. Once he gets his own server he's going to be done with the free Stuff anyway, so if this is all you're concerned about then, You're admitting this is a great host

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth
It's you're not your...But wait, you're smart you should know that. You're the one who sounds like a Retard. I dont think you understand that 30 people are hosted.....How can you say people aren't being hosted? They were right on the site and Mark even gave a list or someone did.

Listen how 'bout we make a deal? When his server is up again or when he sets up his own server you sign up for Free Hosting, Don't sign up for any Free Stuff (If he even has those), and just be nice. If he doesn't host you, I'll say it's a scam too. If he hosts you, then you be honest and say it's a great host. I'm confident he'll host you if you have a decent layout.

WOW 30 hosted out of 400 sign ups!!
wtf are you stupid? once a group or indiviual scammed an indiviual, that party will always be guilty of scam. There is no way of reversing it!

IF i bust your lips and steal your money, police caught me, and I give back you money and say you can it me back and not press charges. you think the police is not going ot press charges? no!!! you dumb idea.


WTf do i care if 30 ppl is hosted! wtf that mean? he gave hosting to 30 and scam 100. So big deal .. he only 100 ppl and didn't scam 30! wow! you so freaking smart.. maybe next time you buy a donut you aren't going take the change.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth
If you don't agree to my previous post, I really don't even think you signed up. To the people before though that really did have trouble, Just do exactly what I told our smart friend Johnny. I'll go on your side and say it's a scam if he doesn't host you after you're nice to him and don't sign up for the Free Stuff. He's a nice guy and I think people need to open their eyes. It's a real shame, that people assume things too fast. I want more sites hosted when he gets the new server so i'm linked on more sites and so I get more hits. Once he gets his own server he's going to be done with the free Stuff anyway, so if this is all you're concerned about then, You're admitting this is a great host

You freaking dumb? I sign up 2 twice!!! I never sign up for his sponsors, since it isn't require.. like you say.. and hey never repley to my mail... i even got the comfirmation mail saying that he will create my account.

[Truth]

This is what Jim emailed me this morning. He told me that they're getting their own brand new server.
The Free plan will be
www.yourdomain.com Web Hosting
35MB Web Storage
Unlimited FTP Access
Unlimited Email Accounts (user@yourdomain.com)
POP & Web-based Email Access
Email Forwarding
Email Autoresponder
PHP4
Perl5
Unlimited MySQL Databases
One pop up ad/Week
He's searching for servers now and if anyone wants to help him find a great one, I'm sure he'd really love that and take your pop-up off just post some links in this thread.

[Johnny]

one popup/week?!?! what now.. not only he want sign ups on over 100 sponsor plus a bogus one popup/week.. who can support a service with 1 popup/week.

[Truth]

Originally posted by Johnny


You freaking dumb? I sign up 2 twice!!! I never sign up for his sponsors, since it isn't require.. like you say.. and hey never repley to my mail... i even got the comfirmation mail saying that he will create my account.

Well you think all 100 sites followed the guidelines? I don't know, but I doubt it. I'm sure a lot were repeated sign ups

I don't think you can assume how many applicants there were either. Even if there were 400, he only chooses some, not all. There is an Autoresponder to everyone, but it doesn't mean you're accepted. I think they assume you're literate. That might be what went wrong with you.
He told me their loading up on 512 IP's so I suspect their going to be hosting more sites once they get this new server. Those are IP's for domains, not Subdomains. And I think you'll be able to have your own subdomains but you do have a limit of space.

The Mail servers are down today, Did you not read what Mark posted. So it's impossible for him to host your site. Look if you really want the hosting just be nice. I can see why he didn't host you. I can see why you're on the internet this much. How do people stand you? You sound like a Jackass. Maybe he sent you the email on accident. I'm sure if he gets a lot, there could be a slip up

If you applied twice thats probably why he didn't send you the info. They don't want you to submit more than once. As for the others, I think they should do what I suggested." they seem to be nice deep down, but you Johnny, you don't know english, that's your problem

[Johnny]

O M F***ing G,

Talking to you is like talking to my 5 year old son!!! don't know whay he is saying.. Even if he know he is being stupid.. he try to cover it up..

I can't even believe you parent let you use a computer.. you are to dumb.

[Truth]

Ok, Look I think this is a good host and so do a lot of other people who came to the defense of ~S4W. To the people that didn't get their FTP info, it could be because he was too busy so just wait or just reply apply and be nice. The site isn't up yet, but I know they're getting their own server really soon so when that's up apply there. BTW, they don't pay for your domain you have to buy it, but they'll host it if you have good content.
Mark also can add sites so email Mark if you think Jims an -------. Mark will setup your site. I like Jim and Mark both, but maybe you like Mark better.
mark@source4webmasters.com (I think he said it's down). I think the site will be back up on their new server soon, so just watch for the site. They will probably get some new Shorter domains for those who want Subdomain hosting too, so that's another thing you could do. Go to register.com and try to find very short .com's that aren't taken and post them here so they can have short URL's for you people.
He's helping me with my site too, so I really think this guy is nice. I guess you have to talk to him though. You can assume a lot, but I think you know it's not true.
I respect your opinions (And that's what they are), but the truth is lots of people are hosted and more will be when the Mail gets through. It takes me a long time just to type this so think say your estimate of 400 emails was true, then he would be writing and setting up FTP's for all of them. Well probably only accept 10% so about 40. But that is still a lot of emails and stuff to setup.
Always think about the other person before you complain. I'm trying to see it from your situation and I can see why Wizard and the other person are mad, but you Johnny I don't see your point really. And I think everyones problems can be solved.

[Truth]

I don't think 5 year olds can have a 5 year old kid. He's not going to have the Free Stuff on the page once they get the new server. I think he posted that in the news. I know he emailed me that. I guess I assumed you could read, sorry. Again, I make sense. I have structure and use the correct tense. You say all your stuff like it was the past. It doesn't make sense. I'm starting to wonder if you're either Retarded or not native to an english speaking country. If you're native language isn't english, that's fine, but I am speaking fine english. Not great, but I'm expressing my thoughts pretty clearly. I think you need to learn how to count also, I counted ~15 on the Free Stuff Page. Which isn't close to 100. That's a good try though. I'm proud that you tried though. Your 5 year old son is probably pretty proud too. His daddy almost knows basic math.
He's a Webdesigner and is stopping Free Webdesign so he'll support the site that way. Other questions email him, but it's down. This is all I know, Mark is another guy you want to talk to. Mark's very nice and he helped me with my site when I was getting it up. They're nice people just give them a Chance. Express your thoughts and I think you'll be surprised what happens Johnny.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth
Ok, Look I think this is a good host and so do a lot of other people who came to the defense of ~S4W. To the people that didn't get their FTP info, it could be because he was too busy so just wait or just reply apply and be nice. The site isn't up yet, but I know they're getting their own server really soon so when that's up apply there. BTW, they don't pay for your domain you have to buy it, but they'll host it if you have good content.
Mark also can add sites so email Mark if you think Jims an -------. Mark will setup your site. I like Jim and Mark both, but maybe you like Mark better.
mark@source4webmasters.com (I think he said it's down). I think the site will be back up on their new server soon, so just watch for the site. They will probably get some new Shorter domains for those who want Subdomain hosting too, so that's another thing you could do. Go to register.com and try to find very short .com's that aren't taken and post them here so they can have short URL's for you people.
He's helping me with my site too, so I really think this guy is nice. I guess you have to talk to him though. You can assume a lot, but I think you know it's not true.
I respect your opinions (And that's what they are), but the truth is lots of people are hosted and more will be when the Mail gets through. It takes me a long time just to type this so think say your estimate of 400 emails was true, then he would be writing and setting up FTP's for all of them. Well probably only accept 10% so about 40. But that is still a lot of emails and stuff to setup.
Always think about the other person before you complain. I'm trying to see it from your situation and I can see why Wizard and the other person are mad, but you Johnny I don't see your point really. And I think everyones problems can be solved.

Ok I don't want to know about your sexual relation with mark or jim.. I don't give a damn what you think about S4W.. You are the only one defending for them.. and some other guy.. thats it! there are more ppl complaining that they were scam then the 30 freaking sign ups.. so stfu. go to bed kid!!!!..

[Truth]

Actually I counted, Next, Mark, Anjay, And I. I think some other people too. Only a couple people had a problem other people are just replying in the thread. I suggest you make an investment in "Hooked on Phonics." I've heard they will really help. No, liking someone doesn't mean you have sex with them. See this is why I know you're a kid. Well besides your issues with reading. You obviously have small hands and are probably a kid. You don't capitalize anything, that's my logic for that. If you don't give a damn what I think, please don't reply. It would make more sense. If I'm a kid, then that's pretty sad, that you're losing an arguement to I.

[Peter]

Johnny and others who are bashing source4webmasters, get your facts straight. If you treat the webmaster of S4W.com with respect maybe he'd do the same for you. Flaming and being a jackass isn't going to get you anywhere. I'm going to be hosted by him, and it's because I treated him nicely and with respect, and in return I got the same back. Obviously he is very busy and he can't activate your hosting right when you send it.
Also, it is not a scam. You should appreciate the free hosting enough so that you don't have to come on here calling it a scam. Just respect the great deal and kind webmaster and maybe you will get respect and service in return - it worked for me.

[Truth]

curiousity, and TheWizard have concerns that I can understand. I would be pissed off if someone did that to me, but i'm sure Jim was just busy or something. I dare you to re-apply and get the same results. It won't happen, I'm confident. Both of you try it and see what happens. Hey maybe since you had bad experiences they'll even chip in $8 for your domain. I don't know, probably don't ask them that or you would sound demanding but when you're nice anything can happen. As for weapon saying they can kiss her booty, that really isn't the attitude they like, so I wouldn't be surprised if you're not accepted ever. NeedCGIspace you sound like you could have a nice site, so i'm sure he would host you. Your name obviously suggests you need the CGI, So i'll say there is a 99% chance you'll be accepted.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Truth
Actually I counted, Next, Mark, Anjay, And I. I think some other people too. Only a couple people had a problem other people are just replying in the thread. I suggest you make an investment in "Hooked on Phonics." I've heard they will really help. No, liking someone doesn't mean you have sex with them. See this is why I know you're a kid. Well besides your issues with reading. You obviously have small hands and are probably a kid. You don't capitalize anything, that's my logic for that. If you don't give a damn what I think, please don't reply. It would make more sense. If I'm a kid, then that's pretty sad, that you're losing an arguement to I.

UM.. stupid! Mark works for S4W, that don't count! what a dumb mother ----*er. stop trying to make yourself happy saying you are winning! by say "hooked on phonics" you are not winning! you just changing the subject..

Someone post somthing to shut this mother ---- er up!!! he never stop denieing he is being stupid!! somone post something so he can shut up..

Truth this is my last post to you.. it seems ever post i make that makes you look stupid.. you try to think of something stupid to get back.

[M Elliot]

Originally posted by Johnny


UM.. stupid! Mark works for S4W, that don't count! what a dumb mother ----*er. stop trying to make yourself happy saying you are winning! by say "hooked on phonics" you are not winning! you just changing the subject..

Someone post somthing to shut this mother ---- er up!!! he never stop denieing he is being stupid!! somone post something so he can shut up..

Truth this is my last post to you.. it seems ever post i make that makes you look stupid.. you try to think of something stupid to get back.

actually I don't work for S4W -- I help out with some coding, but I am on the helper's 'team' -- as I volunteer my services to help out to somewhat 'pay' for my hosting and usage of what S4W has to offer.

[Weapon]

who cares if it is a scam or not, I just wanted to know if the server was good or not, not if it was a scam or what. Remember one thing, good guys go to heaven, bad guys go to hell, if the webmaster of s4w is a scam artist then we know where he is going;) If I had knew it would start a big contraversy like this I wouldn't of started it. Oh and NC_Tom when is netcabins opening?:rolleyes: :o

[Anjay]

I pop/up banner thing isn't that bad!
If the server will still be fast all will be fine, unfortunately he's gonna lower 75mb down to 30mb, but hey!

The hosting will still be good, and it wont cost him so much money. So hopefully things will be much faster. But unfortunately he said he'd be down for about 1 - 2 months, meaning all hosted sites wont be up for about 2 months. But after that he said it should be up and running!

Although it will have 1 pop up a week, it's better than Angelfire.com and Hobbiton.org! Hobbiton.org isn't that fast, and Angelfire doesn't allow CGI or other things!

And lastly it's not a scam.
Think about it, you haven't done it right obviously.
Here's afew tips to getting hosted properly:

- Be greatful (It helps to worship)
- don't moan
- have a good layout
- be peaceful
- learn TaiChi
- learn Spanish
- Go to sleep
- Sign up for FREE E-mail at: ffpagoda.mail.everyone.net
- Ask him to host you (at the E-mail: user@ffpagoda----------)
- be peaceful and admire your new E-mail service. Isn't it nice


so stop moaning! and sign up FREE-

http://ffpagoda.mail.everyone.net


It's fast, it's FREE!
It's COOL and BIG!!!


hehe, I got carried away there I guess.
Oh well!

[Peter]

Johnny, you're stupidity goes beyond what I ever believed possible for a human being.

[Peter]

Also, two more things Johnny -
1. This site is NOT disciminatory. If you're going to call hosting for sites that deserve it discriminatory, then you're also saying that tryouts for a sports team would be discrimination. The good kids make it over the bad kids!

2. The fact that you say you have a five year old son, along with the way you're talking here kind of scares me...

[M Elliot]

Unfortunately S4W is going down for a month because lexton.net their host, is closing.

Because of all this excitement the chances are free hosting will no longer be offerred, and for those of you who have already been hosted and contributed to the site in a pleasant and grateful manner will probably (note it says PROBABLY, not CERTAINLY) hosted on a new dedicated server.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Peter
Also, two more things Johnny -
1. This site is NOT disciminatory. If you're going to call hosting for sites that deserve it discriminatory, then you're also saying that tryouts for a sports team would be discrimination. The good kids make it over the bad kids!

2. The fact that you say you have a five year old son, along with the way you're talking here kind of scares me...

Answer for question 1
WTF are you talking about? I didn't say anything about freewebspace.net is discrminatory. I say S4W is. If you didn't know that in the kids sports they once discriminated against bad kids, which brought a law sue now its illegal to not let a kid in a team because he sucks.. Thats why if you look into any peewee team.. All kids get to join.

Answer to question 2
Whats wrong with my behavior? its not like you never seen school teacher act this way before.

M Elliot,
lexton.net doesn't seem to look like its shutting down.

[Logik]

Your all loosers...your where all missing the best offer on the internet...S4W was the bes free host !!! and wait to see the dedicated server Jim is looking to get...you all cry went you won't get host...

[Peter]

"well .. decicding on to choose which webpage is nicer and hosting is discrimination!!! "
I'm not talking about freewebspace.net, idiot, I'm talking about Source4webmasters.com.
And no, the only time I have ever seen a teacher act like you, he ended up getting fired and put in jail.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Peter
"well .. decicding on to choose which webpage is nicer and hosting is discrimination!!! "
I'm not talking about freewebspace.net, idiot, I'm talking about Source4webmasters.com.
And no, the only time I have ever seen a teacher act like you, he ended up getting fired and put in jail.

If that is not discrimination! then I guess I ratter not surve food to white people named peters, cause I hate there name, and there features.. is also not discrimination too! no!! they both are discrimination !! go ask a peewee coach and asked them if hey forbide suck kids from player.. and they tell you no!!

haha a teacher go to jail for using "adult" language.. i guess we should have when to jail.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Logik
Your all loosers...your where all missing the best offer on the internet...S4W was the bes free host !!! and wait to see the dedicated server Jim is looking to get...you all cry went you won't get host...

I ratter pay $6 per month for 75mb domain hosting.. then sign up on $15 worth of sponsors to get this sub domain hosting. His site is slow so imageing the service.

[niv]

actually, you're wrong. GCSNET was the best host.

125 MB i believe, PHP, MySQL, CGI-BIN (duh), user placeable ads, Telnet & SSH.

:p

[el crapo]

Originally posted by needcgispace
actually, you're wrong. GCSNET was the best host.

125 MB i believe, PHP, MySQL, CGI-BIN (duh), user placeable ads, Telnet & SSH.

:p

IDK about your classifications as a good host or even the greatest host. But IMO a good host stays up for more than a week. :)

[Logik]

Look johnny once their new server is up there won't be any Free Stuff things. So if that is your whole point, then you lost.
The new site will have domain hosting for Free also, You are obviously very ignorant. You have horrible english and yet you call everyone else stupid.

[Logik]

And websites can do whatever the hell they want. They don't have to host every site they see. Are you ----ing Retarded? Do you think everything on the net has to accept your application? I feel sorry for you and your inbred child.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by needcgispace
actually, you're wrong. GCSNET was the best host.

125 MB i believe, PHP, MySQL, CGI-BIN (duh), user placeable ads, Telnet & SSH.

:p

but i think they gone whats teh url?

[Logik]

Look Johnny. You posted before that sites couldn't discriminate against websites, well they can choose which sites they want to host. You just said it yourself so why the HELL DID YOU BRING IT UP? Are you on drugs?
How can it be a scam? You have no arguements for this, it makes absolutely no sense. So if a site doesn't host you, they're a scam? No. So if a Site's webmaster is busy it's a scam? So if a Guy is nice enough to spend time helping people with their websites, it's a scam? If a webmaster goes and buys an ultrafast Dual 1GHZ server it's a scam? Well I think your mind is a little corrupted, eh? Look @ what you've wrote. You sound like a Moron. Suck kids? Do you know know English? It doesn't seem like it. Again, I feel sorry for you. Your life is really going to suck when you have to support yourself.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Logik
And websites can do whatever the hell they want. They don't have to host every site they see. Are you ----ing Retarded? Do you think everything on the net has to accept your application? I feel sorry for you and your inbred child.

OMG, You retarded fuc k.
did I say that they shouldn't host whoever they want? I just say they are a scam! that is my whole ----ing point.. So kid get yoru fact straight before you make you next statement.
:confused: <~~~~ logik

[curiousity]

For those who support S4W and those who think that it is a scam, we are on opposite sides of the fence for obvious reasons. Those who are hosted by S4W were lucky. Some even said that they don't even have to sign up for the sponsors. So naturally, you have to come and defend S4W. Well, for those lucky ones, you have to understand that I think that it is a scam because I received in my email a reply that said that I am "supposed" to sign up in order to get my account set up. You can see the replies my in my previous post. Now, I got angry because I spent the time signing up for at least 10 of those affiliates but was accused of not signing up. I BELIEVE that if you were in my position, you would feel the same way. I have nothing against having people to sign up for affiliates because I have posted messages in the past in this forum suggesting that free web hosts should have members sign up for affiliates in order to keep the hosting up & running. I have defended many free web hosts when others doubt them because I believe that free web hosts are very generous to have offer other people free web hosting. But this time, I have to write a bad comment about S4W because I felt cheated, not because I did not get hosted, but because I was accused of not signing up when in fact I did. There is nothing worse than being wrongfully accused.

I have in the past earn money from commissionjunction.com and linkshare.com and know how these things works. They usually update the stats of sign-ups very quickly and often in real time. All I asked in my email was how many I have sign up when they accused me of not signing up and instead I got a sarcastic reply claiming that I did not sign up and thought that I was lying. I would not have been angry if they just be nice enough to reply in a more professional manner.

[niv]

okay, cut this out. SHUT THE **** UP!!! those 4 asterisks are for you to decide what belongs there. :o

[Johnny]

Originally posted by curiousity
For those who support S4W and those who think that it is a scam, we are on opposite sides of the fence for obvious reasons. Those who are hosted by S4W were lucky. Some even said that they don't even have to sign up for the sponsors. So naturally, you have to come and defend S4W. Well, for those lucky ones, you have to understand that I think that it is a scam because I received in my email a reply that said that I am "supposed" to sign up in order to get my account set up. You can see the replies my in my previous post. Now, I got angry because I spent the time signing up for at least 10 of those affiliates but was accused of not signing up. I BELIEVE that if you were in my position, you would feel the same way. I have nothing against having people to sign up for affiliates because I have posted messages in the past in this forum suggesting that free web hosts should have members sign up for affiliates in order to keep the hosting up & running. I have defended many free web hosts when others doubt them because I believe that free web hosts are very generous to have offer other people free web hosting. But this time, I have to write a bad comment about S4W because I felt cheated, not because I did not get hosted, but because I was accused of not signing up when in fact I did. There is nothing worse than being wrongfully accused.

I have in the past earn money from commissionjunction.com and linkshare.com and know how these things works. They usually update the stats of sign-ups very quickly and often in real time. All I asked in my email was how many I have sign up when they accused me of not signing up and instead I got a sarcastic reply claiming that I did not sign up and thought that I was lying. I would not have been angry if they just be nice enough to reply in a more professional manner.

GOod for you son, That is for you S4W supportors stfu! we have prove that someone is scam, doesn't mean you were not scam, doesn't NOT mean others don't get scam!

I bet they shut down cause of all the critizism and the contraversy.. not cause of the webprovider is shutting down.. cause the site is still there.

[curiousity]

Originally posted by needcgispace
okay, cut this out. SHUT THE **** UP!!! those 4 asterisks are for you to decide what belongs there. :o

Shut the DOOR? So what does UP stands for? Is that the initials of your name? :)

[jonny]

I find it rather odd that NONE of the longstanding (ie. more than 20 posts) members of FWS.net forums have not had sucess at S4W. Considering we are normally the first ones to try any hosting out.

Oh, also just noticed that the site seems to be down? Pitty that.

And a special note to Truth:
I find your use of the terms "retard" and "dyslexic" when flaming someone very disturbing. People with such condititons (and thats what they are, and I don't wish them apon anyone) would have more compassion and good old human spirt then you seem to have shown within this forum.

BTW: I also got scammed.

Jonny
"H"less

[Johnny]

yea i wonder too, how come the member who have less than 4 post didn't get scammed and defend for S4W. the people who have over 90 post got scam, hmmm.. i wonder if they all the same person from S4W

[Logik]

Have the mods check IP's, I know we're different people and we all had hosting by them. It wasn't a Scam, but you will keep believing it was. I really feel sorry for you. None of you were Scammed, I know you weren't. The guy was busy, just cuz you didn't get your FTP right away doesn't mean you wouldn't of....

[Peter]

First of all Johnny the teacher went to jail because he came into school drunk and attacked students, he also spoke the way you do... Strange coincedence.

Second of all, I'm talking about TRYOUTS as I pointed out explicitly before. If you want to be on a good team, you have to be good. Same goes for hosting, if you want to be hosted, you need a good site. That's not discrimination. Even if it WAS discrimination, it's his own server so he has every right to discriminate... The fact is, if you want that, you have to have a good site, and calling that discrimination is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Your site probably just sucks.

[Johnny]

if it wasn't a scam.. how many days you guy sign up for those program, and never recieve anything? therefor its a scam! And when S4w is shutting down.. then we know its definitally a scam!!! i wonder how much money the had already made?

[Peter]

Jonny, before you start saying you were scammed maybe you should notice that your entire site consists of a whopping three images! Why would anyone want to host a site with no content? Maybe you're just bitter that people don't want to host sites for free that don't even include anything.

I want to know actually how people were scammed, and being refused hosting on account of being a total --- does not count as a spam, like Johnny said.

And s4w.com is not shutting down, they just used too many resources on their server, which means they are a very successful site, if you ask me...

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Peter
First of all Johnny the teacher went to jail because he came into school drunk and attacked students, he also spoke the way you do... Strange coincedence.


WTF does this have to do what we been talking about? what teacher are you talking about? stop make up ---- as you go along. what planet are you on??
:confused: <~~~ peter

Hello, have you been at a peewee game?!? talk to a couch! a try out is to determine who get to place on the starting line up.. if there are alot of people trying out.. then there will be a "b" and "c" team.. thats why you always here storys of parnets going angrey cause they visits the game and never seem them play.!!! duh

:confused: <~~~peter

[niv]

no, it's just that lexton.net (S4Ws host) isn't offering hosting anymore and it's for sale. :rolleyes:

[Peter]

Johnny you asked me to explain and I did. The only time I've seen a teacher talk the way you do is when they are drunk and crazy.

Also about your "peewee" crap.. Do you live in England or something? Because here in America the best players make the best teams, unless you are four years old and playing T-Ball. That's the way that it works. If you want to be on the best team you have to be good. It's even like that for admittance into leagues.

Basically you are saying that the NHL discriminates when some players don't make it into it. I think not...

[Johnny]

O M G!!! next time read before you respond.. why you think there is a B and C team.. or sometimes a another league for people who don't make it! duh!!!
That story doesn't have to do with teacher get arrested for coursing ok?! Thats what i was saying.. you or some guy say that teachers jail for cursing they don't!

Well NHL, NBA, and those other stuff are all provide orgainisation! They like sadeem husin, who wtf they want, the coach curse at ref. $8,000 fine for the coach, give a middel finger to the audience, $2000 fine.

I don't where you live, but in America where I live, that is how it is! why you think peewee leagues are non profit orgainizations!

Hell NBA,NHL is so private they can even discriminate agains't whites or black if they want.
And you even notice that NHL no black players! (expect 1)
NBA no white players. (expect 20)

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Peter
Jonny, before you start saying you were scammed maybe you should notice that your entire site consists of a whopping three images! Why would anyone want to host a site with no content? Maybe you're just bitter that people don't want to host sites for free that don't even include anything.

I want to know actually how people were scammed, and being refused hosting on account of being a total --- does not count as a spam, like Johnny said.

And s4w.com is not shutting down, they just used too many resources on their server, which means they are a very successful site, if you ask me...

WEll i wasn't scam.. cause i never sign up for anything.. I wasn't scam. but many others.. And I can prove its a scam cause it say we require you to sign up.

btw it seems lexton.net own's S4W cause there domain name is forsale at there site. I guess you guess are defeatly scam!!! haha.. Lol I bet they mand $300 in sponsor sign ups. and you ppl only got hosting for 4 days?

[niv]

hosts come and go, but that's not very nice

[Johnny]

i know, but these 3 ----ing idiots keep agrueing with me the meaning of scam. and that s4w isn't a scam.. now you guys know its 100% a scam.. so now those ppl can shut up and move on. S

[niv]

sometimes the best thing to do in an argument is to just walk away and to forget about it as much as possible. sometimes it isn't. *shrug*

[programmer2k]

alright

I don't think this should continue

[Peter]

Johnny I was using NHL as an example. Many leagues in my state function in the same way... Real discrimination, huh? And NHL doesn't "not allow" blacks into it, just not many black people play hockey. (there's 3 by the way - Mike Grier, Anson Carter, and a goalie for Edmonton who's name I can't think of but his first name is Fred)

S4W will be back up when he gets his own server.

[Johnny]

Originally posted by Peter
Johnny I was using NHL as an example. Many leagues in my state function in the same way... Real discrimination, huh? And NHL doesn't "not allow" blacks into it, just not many black people play hockey. (there's 3 by the way - Mike Grier, Anson Carter, and a goalie for Edmonton who's name I can't think of but his first name is Fred)

S4W will be back up when he gets his own server.

Hey i don't follow NHL last time i hear of it .. only 1 black was there and it was like 3 years ago..

OMG how da hell they gonna be back up if they sell the domain name? hmm.. :confused:

[Todd]

I've gone over this far to many times by now. Stay on topic! :)

Disputes such as this can be handled in a professional way on the forum or in an unprofessional way off the forum. Keep the fistfights through email and keep the professional debates on the forum.

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