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webDomain
January 17th, 2005, 18:01
We, at webDomain.com (http://www.webdomain.com), are serving webmasters since 1998.
As it, we are always trying our best to provide our customers with quality services, intensive support, clear offers and uptime garantee.

We are now offering Free Bannerless/Populess hosting plans with the following specs:


- YourDomainName.com
- 100Mb Disk Space
- 3Gb Monthly Bandwith
- 10 POP accounts + Webmail Access
- 3 Subdomains
- 2 MySQL databases
- Ensim Control Panel
- PHP
- CGI
- Webstats (Webalizer)
- Majordomo + Auto-responder
- Anti-Virus and MailScanner (Anti-SPAM)
- FTP Access
- Protected Directories
- Custom Error Pages
- Domain Pointers

more details..................................................... ..... >> (http://www.webdomain.com/details.php)

You must agree with the following requirements to register your Free Plan:

1. must own (transfer or buy) your own domain name, we will not do subdomains.
2. Accept to introduce a link back to webdomain.com into your website's homepage. (A link back to your website will be also introduced into the webDomain's links rotation onto our main page).
3. No warez or illegal content.
4. No controversial content such as bittorent, religious sites, pornography, hate websites.
5. Forums and Images galleries will be tolerated as long as they are not exceding the Free Plan's quotas and are not consuming to many shared ressources.

Please, take a minute to read our Terms Of Services (http://www.webdomain.com/tos.php) before signing up.

If you agree with all these terms and are ready to register your free plan, then click here (https://secure.webdomain.com/%7Ewebdomain.com/accounts/order/orderwiz.php?v=3&type3_package=2).

<<Moderator edit>>

sese
January 17th, 2005, 20:54
need EPP Auth Key?
how can i get it?

sese
January 17th, 2005, 21:49
not free ,

jerry4dos
January 18th, 2005, 02:07
Okay, Sese -- where does he ask you for money? I followed the links as far as I could (I don't have a domain name that I wanted to change the registration of, so I stopped there) and never encountered a request for a payment. Did you see one?

Jerry

Noticed this in the TOS, though . . .


You acknowledge that as part of your WEBDOMAIN.com service, advertisement sponsored email newsletters may be sent to Members and WEBDOMAIN.com email service email accounts

sese
January 18th, 2005, 07:18
trans my domain.all $7.9

jerry4dos
January 18th, 2005, 22:55
OK -- maybe WebDomain (the host) can clarify this. "I think" Sese is saying that the "free hosting" is only available if one PAYS to have his domain transfered and "registered" or "administered" by the WebDomains company. Is this true?

Jerry

webDomain
January 19th, 2005, 05:19
Hi all,

To clarify all this:

You acknowledge that as part of your WEBDOMAIN.com service, advertisement sponsored email newsletters may be sent to Members and WEBDOMAIN.com email service email accounts
This statement was the previous way used by webDomain to provide Free accounts. Since November 2004, EU applicated new law agaisnt SPAM and we decided to suspend this momentanly to see how the things were going. Some points in this law were not completly clear and legit business may also encounter some problems. We fight hardly agaisnt SPAM and that's why we prefered wait. Anyway, customers are invited to put a link back to webDomain until we find a new solution. This link may be deleted with a small deletion fee.

Note: Until further notifications, we currently require the insertion of a HTML link, linking back to WEBDOMAIN.com, on the home page of the site hosted on the Free Account. This link will also have to be inserted onto the sub-domains main pages. Its format will have to be: "Hosted by WebDomain.com" or "Powered by WebDomain.com" and will have to link back to http://www.webdomain.com.


OK -- maybe WebDomain (the host) can clarify this. "I think" Sese is saying that the "free hosting" is only available if one PAYS to have his domain transfered and "registered" or "administered" by the WebDomains company.
As said previously, we are hardly fighting agaisnt SPAM.But also WAREZ, FILE SHARING and all that related stuff. That's why, in the optic to authenticate our customers, we are requiring the registration (or transfer) of an owned domain name. This is also a good value for the customer who will have his own domain name and not a subdomain service.
We sincerly would have to avoid this but, as for an example, since my post here and on FreeWHT, we already recorded 15% daily registration fraud attempts more. Most of them from China and Romania. Anyway, our techs are actually develloping a Flash micro-app, to track and record the customer original IP address even in case of proxy use. We will begin to report hardly all these peoples to legal authorities and/or to their Internet Provider.
Anyway, to answer the question: Yes, people have to transfer or register a domain name BUT the webhosting package remains free as long as this domain name is recorded with us.

Renegade
January 19th, 2005, 20:39
Nice domain, webdomain.com. Me likes. :)

Timilon
January 19th, 2005, 21:24
can the link be on a links page, or at the bottom by a copyright notice? or does it have to be somewhere specified?

jerry4dos
January 19th, 2005, 23:23
Thanks for clarifying, WebDomain.

Since Domain Registration is required and charged for, I'm not sure this forum (Free Hosting Offers) is the proper place for this kind of offer. I'll run it by my supervising moderator (and we all know who THAT is), and see what she thinks.

Jerry

Jan
January 20th, 2005, 03:03
I certainly don't like the sound of this. You can still require a domain to use your service, but to transfer it to an unknown quantity is indeed foolhardy and suspicious. I would suggest you find another way to get signups. If you can't do that within 24 hours, this thread will be tossed, as will your thread at freewht.com.

webDomain
January 20th, 2005, 06:00
EzForum: Thanks for the nice words.
Timilon: The link can be anywhere you wish, it only has to be on the Home page of your site.

Jan: I didn't get the point can you devellop a bit your ideas:


I certainly don't like the sound of this...



...but to transfer it to an unknown quantity is indeed foolhardy and suspicious...

If you followed the order process, you saw that all the prices are clearly shown all the way long. I didn't really understandd what you are trying to say with foolhardy and suspicious. All of this is clearly stated on our front page, in the detailled page, in our TOS and during all the registration process..... What is suspicious there?
Is this place a discussion forum for free webhosters? If yes, our offer is definitivly free as long as domain names are registered with webDomain. I guess you didn't make the difference between domain name registration and webhosting package (funny though). I don't know a lot of webhosters in this business that are providing Free plans & Free Domain Names. It is our way to authenticate our customers and we won't change it only to be convenient with FreeWebSpace.net. As said, since this post was published, we already recorded 15% Fraud attempts more and none of them get thru our protection.
To the question, Are we offering Free webhosting plan, the answer is yes.
Is there something suspicious there? Nor something agaisnt rules of these places (here and FreeWHT)? I guess not.
Of course, it is your priviledge as moderator to remove our posts, even if i find that totally unfair, agaisnt the whole discussions boards spirit and, above all, even if we didn't break any rules here. I really would like to have your point of view about this.

jerry4dos
January 20th, 2005, 23:54
Hi WebDomain:

What still bothers me is that yours is not an offer of "Free Web Hosting" -- "free" meaning "no charge." What you've got is a bonus of web hosting for no additional charge after someone pays you for your domain registration services. It's no more "free web hosting" than the web hosting provided by many ISPs -- if you don't pay the ISP charge, you don't get the "free hosting."

I think this type of an offer belongs in our other forum, Domain Names, since that is your principal product (the one the costs the money), but I'm reluctant to move this thread there myself, because that is not a forum where I am a moderator.

Just my 2¢ worth.

Jerry

Jan
January 21st, 2005, 01:41
Moved to Ads and Offers.