TheCounter.com Changes...

[ace0]

Now they are starting a premium edition and


A free version of TheCounter.com will still be available after July 11,2001,
but without the premium services such as the invisible counter, online
stats, customer support -- and the ability to group multiple TheCounter.com
accounts under one login!


That sucks!

[Hoth]

So, where else has invisible counters? I've used http://dominoltd.com/counter , but it's not very reliable. (Lots of downtime.)

[ace0]

I didn't even find thecounter to be very reliable...took a while to finally start counting...

[polestar]

This is a very bad move by thecounter.com - removing both the online stats & invisibility - why on earth will anyone stay with them now?

I mean talk about business strategy....why not force us to receive more e-mails or make the invisible counter a subtle ad / link? Yeah, I know - that would hardly make any money - I'm just clutching at straws.

Their online stats are an excellent service, but they're only good if they're free. Everyone wants something for free.

I know it's a common topic but what's the best alternative, ie (in order of importance) free, invisible and online stats?

[meow]

Things are really changing fast now. Scary, almost. :(

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by ace0
I didn't even find thecounter to be very reliable...took a while to finally start counting...

I had one of theirs and another one on my site for awhile, and I found that thecounter.com's miss quite a few hits.

[lord_andy]

Why is invisible so important?

I must admit, I was using their invisible counter till just yesterday, but I used it 'cos it was there, I would still have used their stats if they hadn't had one.

Now I have to pay, I´ve changed counters.

[Opie]

i like theme counter it works find for me

[meow]

Originally posted by lord_andy
Why is invisible so important?
We don't want to show we have 3 visitors a month.

[polestar]

I agree, it's not so much that invisible is so important, I just don't like 'visitor #0000000020' displayed, or any number for that matter

or the ugly 'click here' arrows (I forget which counter that is)

lord_andy: which counter have you changed to?

[Satelk]

To bad they won't be offring that for free anymore.
I changed to http://www.bakaranweb.de/logger it has invisible counter, stats, "don't count me" option, etc.
They use a PHP/MySQL script you can have for free, but I don't wanna waste space on my f2s account, so I'll use their site.

[niv]

you could always use a cheap php counter. you can make one with or without an SQL database

[lord_andy]

Polestar:

I´ve recently changed to a stats counter in Spanish, it makes no difference to me if it's in english or spanish.
www.yaspe.com.
I'm just trying it out for now. I found it on a page and from 80 votes it had a 9.8 which seemed quite high. We will see. I'm not totally convinced yet.
All I need to show is a small pic with a Y in it. That way I don't have to show how few people visit my site. You can see it if you visit my Spanish joke page. It's in the bottom left hand corner.

[polestar]

Thanks lord_andy, I'm currently looking into needcgispace's suggestion...

[Rivka]

I've always liked Extreme Tracker: http://www.extreme-dm.com/tracking/?reg

They don't let you make it invisible, but it doesn't display numbers, and it's not very noticeable, IMHO.

[clearjade]

Will they still have the regular reports on stats though? I don't mind the not invisible part, since I didn't use that. On the website, it only says that the invisible counter, better customer support, and improved stats will be exclusive to premium members.

[lord_andy]

Quote from the e-mail I received:

A free version of TheCounter.com will still be available after July 11, 2001, but without premium services such as the invisible counter, online stats and customer support.

I suppose that they will still send you a weekly report which tells you how many visits you had per day, but that´s all. No, referers, no screen sizes, no navigator info, no nothing.

[AlabamaMan]

Try
www.counted.com
www.webtrendslive.com

Im using both of them
www.counted.com has a very good referal tracker.

[Hoth]

Here's a free invisible counter that looks like it has good stats: http://www.atomicdesigns.net/adime/stats/

[akersche]

got the email from them, too...

sucks with the free services and the change.

guess i am gonna get a paid webspace with cgi, that would solve the problem:-))
but would cost me something:-(