President Bush worst approval ratting!! [Archive]

Johnny

June 22nd, 2001, 23:10

Originally posted by Giancarlo
It is about 56%. That is not low, straighten your facts for once.

Which rating are you looking at? Some collage poll? I say the 3 polls on NYTimes and they all are under 40%. I would scan it if i had a scanner.

Giancarlo

June 22nd, 2001, 23:12

NYTimes = Liberal.
I am looking at that one that always takes these opinions, Gallup...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr010619b.asp

Gayowulf

June 22nd, 2001, 23:15

Why would 2 polls be so different?

Giancarlo

June 22nd, 2001, 23:16

There would be no way his approval rating would be below 40%, 50% of Americans are Republicans. I would trust the Gallup poll instead... but all polls are misleading since they are on 1,000 or so people. + or - 40% margin of error, in my opinion. They are worth for crap.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 09:02

Originally posted by Gayowulf
Why would 2 polls be so different?

because polls are not always accurate. let's say in one poll, x% of the sample space may be republican, and let's say 100-x% is the democrats. x is not always 50.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 09:05

Originally posted by Giancarlo
NYTimes = Liberal.

about or more than 70% of new yorkers (regional new york city) are democrats or independents. having a majority in one party is not a good way to conduct a zogby poll

i'd like to add that some people don't know any better, because they watch that comedy crap on TV and they can't understand fact from fiction. some polls are screwed up because of that.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 10:31

Not to mention 950 of 1000 are Democrats, if it was out of a 1000. The Gallup Insitution usually does a mix of two areas... so they should be trusted a tad bit more.

LeX

June 23rd, 2001, 10:41

Depends on how the poll was taken.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 10:53

No way these polls can be accurate anyways, 1,000 people won't tell the approval rating of an entire nation.

WorldWarGeneral

June 23rd, 2001, 11:01

1000 people is a very bad sample for a poll. I think Bush has done an okay job since he got in. I probably would have voted for Gore though. (it was Bush's "faith-based" charity thing that swung me towards Gore. I'm a firm believer in the seperation of church and state)

I sure hope Bush moves foward with Missle Defense. Let the Russians build their own if they're so "threatened"

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 11:21

That Faith base intiative was one of the few things I was against. I am for National Missle Defence.

sianews

June 23rd, 2001, 12:43

Originally posted by Johnny
Haha, I knew bush was to stupid to be our president. He's got the lowest approval rating in the presidental history.

Which ironiclly is the same approval percentage Clinton had this far into his term.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 16:45

Remember, the approval rating Clinton had towards the end of his 2nd Term? What was it? 38%?

Technics

June 23rd, 2001, 16:48

Makes you guys or your parents just as stupid for voting him into power. You have nobody to blame but yourselfs.

Originally posted by Johnny
Haha, I knew bush was to stupid to be our president. He's got the lowest approval rating in the presidental history.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 17:02

What do you know about US Politics?
Bush is a good man, and people actually smartened up and he was elected by twelve different recounts that all went his way. He won the seat of Presidency fair and square and is doing a good job maintaining this country.

Technics

June 23rd, 2001, 17:08

Since the USA is always trying to proof its the biggest and richest and most powerful country in the world we get US politics shoved down our throats in the UK. Since Tony Blair (our prime minister) seems to kiss whoever is in charge of ur countrys butt.

I never judged him, Afterall he cant do much worse than our government. But if you guys arent happy with him all you can do is sit wait till the next election and vote someone new in. No doubt you will not like him once hes in but thats life.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 17:33

I think he might be elected to a second term, that is my prediction. He is doing his job very well. Most Americans do like him, most opinion polls are between 55-60% depending where they are taken. That is about average for most Presidents.

Johnny is one of 20-25% that do not like Bush out there, who want to do everything to make sure he doesn't succeed in his wonderful programmes.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 19:05

there are some things I like about bush, then there are some things I dont like about Bush. I remain close to neutral, as I think he's doing a fairly decent job.

Ozy

June 23rd, 2001, 19:25

What do you think a poll is? Especially one that is done by a reputable organization. You think that they send Billy to the street to ask a couple of hundreds of people that are passing by and then they get the percentage with a simple divition? It's a whole science and usually they are accurate plus or minus 3-4%.

Now, Bush is an idiot periot. If Americans voted him because he promised tax cuts (so indirectly paid them to vote for him) is another story.

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 19:32

Those Polls are taken in vincities that are either Republican or Democrat. They are misleading period.

At least Bush can spell.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 19:36

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Those Polls are taken in vincities that are either Republican or Democrat. They are misleading period.

At least Bush can spell.

but you can't ;)

Ozy

June 23rd, 2001, 19:52

At least Bush can spell.

The guy doesn't even know how to talk !!! No wonder you like him. You both talk ----. Good thing that there are fanatics that can't see straight and they like Bush and they make him feel smart. And good thing your momy and dady tell you that you are smart and make you feel good about yourself, because everybody else can see that you are a total idiot.
As for me, English is not my first language so spelling mistakes mean nothing.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 19:57

will you stop with the negative garbage? at least bush is smart enough to gain the presidency. if you're saying things like this, you apparently don't know any better.

Giancarlo, you know i'm not a republican, and i'm not a Bush-supporter, but i can't accept the fact that people believe that Bush is an idiot. it's despicable.

Ozy

June 23rd, 2001, 20:05

oh, so you think that Bush became president because he is smart? If he didn't had his father, connections and money you think he could still be president?
He had the right connections and people to push him. A total idiot is after all the perfect pupet for the big corporations that rule the US.

niv

June 23rd, 2001, 20:11

that is what the media wants you to think.

Ozy

June 23rd, 2001, 20:21

I am not affected by the media ... i've heard him talking live many times.
Anyways .. its your president. If you feel proud when you have Bush to represent your country... good for you :rolleyes:

Giancarlo

June 23rd, 2001, 20:56

You are coericied by the media.
Look, I don't know about my spelling but I can certainly speak in front of crowds (I did infront of school) and gave an charsmatic speech for the people leaving infront of 200 people. Bush does it while a entire nation infact world is watching him... so I would like you to see you do that. You will be so lost in words, you will get egged by everyone. Bush is genius in his own areas, he knows Business and has several Business Degrees... unlike you do.

meow

June 23rd, 2001, 23:25

Wow. I didn't know that he had ratted. :p

Ozy

June 24th, 2001, 04:03

Oh, you can talk in front of 200 people? !! Oh, you must be sooo smart then. oh, I am sorry, I forgot you made 3 (three !!!) computers also !!! Oh my GOD !! You are also going to study economics !!!!!!!!! Hey, I admit it ... you must be a genius !!
(I am just kidding ... just wanted to make it clear because I am not sure you would understand it)

But you have a point. If the majority of the population is as smart as you are, then Bush is definitely a genius compared to you. He is smart enough so people like you can admire him, and stupid enough so people of your (low) mental level can think of him as one of your own.

niv

June 24th, 2001, 07:16

Ozy, how long have you been into american politics? Just pandering. You seem to be making remarks that have no point. Sure, you say that Bush is an idiot. Can you back it up? Are you going to show me some crap you saw on the Tonight show with Jay Leno and say that that is the proof that Bush is an idiot? Sure, his tax cut wasn't the best idea, but haven't you realized that other republican presidents have done the same?

LeX

June 24th, 2001, 07:44

this post was stupid. EDITED

niv

June 24th, 2001, 07:47

Originally posted by LeX

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:confused:

LeX

June 24th, 2001, 07:50

Yeah? What's so hard to understand about that? :confused:

niv

June 24th, 2001, 07:55

why are you confoozled? :confused:

LeX

June 24th, 2001, 08:15

Because I never read Giancarlo's last post. :p

Ozy

June 24th, 2001, 09:09

Ozy, how long have you been into american politics?

I've been into politics in general and even American politics long before you. Except if you liked politics since you were 2-3 years old. (I am a lot older that you, remember).
But to realize that Bush is an idiot you don't need to be into politics. Just not being stupid yourself is more than enough.
Jay Leno and so many others were making fun of Clinton because of those scandals because he was obviusly not the most faithful guy in the world, and now they make fun of Bush because he is obviusly not the smartest person around.
But as i said before I don't care. If you like him and you want Bush to represent you and feel proud to say "This (Bush) is a good example of the most inteligent people that US can produce" good for you.
I've been to the US and I know that the country has a lot of very educated and smart people. But for somebody that has never been there and listens to your president talking I am sure he will think: "If this guy is their president, I can imagine how idiots the people of his country are"
A president should be elected because of his own abilities. Bush became what he became because of his father, conections and money. But .. if you like him .... good for you. Go Bush Junior !!!

WorldWarGeneral

June 24th, 2001, 09:18

I think the reason most people think Bush is stupid is because of the Saturday Night Live stuff, and all the late night "comedy" shows. Despite what you say, Ozy, you have no reason to say Bush is stupid. Maybe he doesn't always say stuff quite right, but that doesn't make him an idiot. Who hasn't meant to say one thing, but something else just came out? And no, Bush didn't get elected because he has money. He got elected because he had policy ideas that people seemed to like. (despite the fact that he didn't get the popular vote, but that's another issue entirely.)

I suppose some people really believe Gore's plan was to put the surplus into a lockbox...

atlas

June 24th, 2001, 11:04

The "lockbox" idea was actually unconstitutional -- it would have impaired the Congress in future years by moving some of its rights over to the executive branch of the goverment.

-mk

Giancarlo

June 24th, 2001, 11:39

rockergrrl

June 24th, 2001, 12:01

oy vay (You guys are turning me into a old Jewish lady)..

Give it a break guys.... You don't need to degrade people in order to get your point across... There is a way to debate in a more civilized matter....

I'd like to see a politian say, "You piece of ----" to someone in a debate... that would be just delighful....

Lighten up just a wee bit... It makes everyone else's stay just a little bit better...

Thanks!

sianews

June 24th, 2001, 13:44

Bush is smart, period. The liberal media wants you to think otherwise and there doing a great job of it.

I was listening to a Paul Harvey show once and he described this military man that would memorized entire maps, schematics, even baseball stats for players entire careers and then recite them flawlessly. That was Bush. People think he's dumb the because he's not a good public speaker. If he can remeber all those technicalities, I think he can memorize a short speech, he just can't recite do it in public. And when he went to college, his dad was a mere junior congressmen, so he wasn't pulling many ropes for him. I'm so sick of people that say that.

Secondly, I'm opening a conservative based news site soon, and I'm still looking for people to write articles, and this seems like a good time to ask :). If you might be interested e-mail me at sianews@neo.rr.com for more details.

Gayowulf

June 24th, 2001, 16:23

http://www.bushfordummies.com/

Giancarlo

June 24th, 2001, 16:27

Let's put it this way: He has the Business Degree, and you don't. He is a Businessman not an Writer. So Gayo, the people that are running that site are communist fools with their minds warped by liberals.

Gayowulf

June 24th, 2001, 16:30

lol :rolleyes: http://www.dubyasays.com/

Giancarlo

June 24th, 2001, 16:34

Most of those quotes are meant as jokes on Bush's Part, he knows he is saying that.

He has a humor like Reagan did. Whereas, Gore doesn't even have a humor nor a personality.

Reagan humor Library: http://www.reaganhumormuseum.com/

Do you communist and liberals know what humor is because your party leaders certainly don't have any of it.

Gayowulf

June 24th, 2001, 16:54

http://www.uoregon.edu/~gmorgan/w/w.html thats from your national magazine warped by communist liberals.

Originally posted by Giancarlo
He is a Businessman not an Writer.

I have never heard of an illiterate businessman before, but then again...

rockergrrl

June 24th, 2001, 17:01

Originally posted by Giancarlo
He has the Business Degree

I have a business degree... does that me I should run for office?! LOL

Sorry I couldnt' help myself...

20 years from now, vote for Rocker Grrl.... Heck! I can even write... :D And speak in front of the numbers.... Heck, I can even do a song and dance.... :D

Sorry.... Just wanted to put some humor into the debate...

meow

June 24th, 2001, 17:09

I just read through this thread. America's internal affairs couldn't interest me less, but to me it's an anomaly to call oneself a democrat and at the same time call those with a different view idiots or ignarant.

rockergrrl

June 24th, 2001, 17:15

I'm not associated to any party... I'm not Republican or Democrat... I'm not an independant either.... I don't vote for any particular party every election -- whoever I think is best for the job, I vote for. That's one reason why I was hung up on who to vote for president this last election - because I didn't feel that none of the 3 that were on the ballot were best for the job.

*shrug*

Gayowulf

June 24th, 2001, 17:21

At least you voted.

Choose the lesser of the evils

meow

June 24th, 2001, 17:23

That wasn't a comment to you, rockergrrl. I haven't heard you call anyone "idiot". I meant democrat=believing in and supporting a democratic system, as I believe both the parties do, but obviously not all followers, judging from this thread.

rockergrrl

June 24th, 2001, 17:34

Meow -- I know it wasn't directed at me.. I just wanted to add to the convo... :)

meow

June 24th, 2001, 17:48

Good - I thought you took it personal. ;)

Rodie

June 24th, 2001, 19:19

Wow, what a thread. People never agree on politics, so I guess this is to be expected. But some of you people need to learn to respect other's opinions. There's no need to be so derogatory and insulting to everyone's intelligence. If you disagree with a comment, then fine. But some of the messages on this thread are downright rude. Don't call someone an idiot because they have a differing opinion then you. Agree to disagree, but do it in a civil manner.

PEACE guys! :p

Ozy

June 25th, 2001, 04:46

Ozy, I would like to see you be the President, you know ---- about American Politics. Bush was elected because 50% of the American Population wanted that.. and though the Popular Vote was a tad bit lower than Gore's was, he won the Electoral Vote. Bush knows how to run a country and he can get infront of the entire world and speak, so I would like to see you do that. You are the biggest fool I have ever seen on the internet.

<mod edit>
There is no reason to degrade people and call other people names to get your point across
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The lesser educated, like you voted for Gore, the ones that didn't know how to fill out a damn ballot for crying out loud those people are idiots, just like the rest of the Democrats who want to screw up the economy with there high taxes on the middle class.

I am the bigest fool? Well, since this is coming from a person like you I consider it a complement. Because you are sooo "smart", as everybody in this forum knows, and you admire some VERY "smart" people. (your idols are Bush and Reagan .. thats really soooo sad !!!!!!)

The lasser educated voted for Bush as a metter of fact. The info you give is wrong (again).

meow

June 25th, 2001, 05:24

Amazing. Truly amazing. :eek:
Thank heavens for todays politicians if the "future" politicians are like this. :D
I didn't think they could get much worse but everything seems possible. :rolleyes:

~~not referring to Ozy~~

bigperm

June 25th, 2001, 05:47

I thought I was the biggest fool...

niv

June 25th, 2001, 06:49

Originally posted by rockergrrl
... I'm not an independant either.... I don't vote for any particular party every election -- whoever I think is best for the job, I vote for...

isn't that what an independant is? you're voting for who you think will do the job best, therefore you are an independant. ;) :cool:

lucifer

June 25th, 2001, 07:33

isn't bush due for assasination?

every 20 years or something

meow

June 25th, 2001, 07:37

Nah. From the look of him he will soon expire by himself. ;)

niv

June 25th, 2001, 07:37

that's just hype, but you never know :rolleyes:

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 11:13

Alright this is enough... why don't you fools try to run a country for once? Yeah, I like to see that. Ozy running a country one day, Ozy lynched the next.

Ozy

June 25th, 2001, 19:30

First, i never said I can run a country or that I am able to do such thing right now.(in the right way) Unfortunatly you are mistaken if you think that Bush is actually running something.
The policies are given to him, most of the speaches are prepared for him, he has a ton of advisors to tell him what to say and how to react, people that tell him what to wear and when he should smile etc. In this way even you could be president !! All presidents use most of these things, but most of them at least have an opinion (their own not what is given to them), and they can affect in some degree the policies. I don't think Bush is smart enought to do that.
I can not be a president now, and I will never be able to be a president because I would never be willing to sucrifice any of my principles and beliefs in order to get the money and support of the big corporations. Bush (and probably you) are perfect for this job. Not much brains, thirst for power, all it really matters is money .... the perfect pupets.

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 20:09

Bush is smart enough to run the country and get the support of at least 1/2 or more of the American Population according to most reliable polls. Bush is smart enough to implement important strategic policies and deals. And if you don't think he is smart enough look at Gore, whose corruption during his campagin will start to show in a few months. Additionally, if you still don't think he is smart enough, you ought to get your head examined, he is a hell of a lot smarter than you are.

Gayowulf

June 25th, 2001, 20:12

Originally posted by lucifer
isn't bush due for assasination?

every 20 years or something

No. They usually assasinate the good guy.

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 20:27

Whatever, you might think Bush is bad... but you think wrong. He is one of the greatest President that has ruled the US in twenty years since Ronald Reagan.

Gayowulf

June 25th, 2001, 20:30

I don't want to rekindle this thread, but you are right: Boy George may be good for the USA, but for the rest of the world, and the Earth in general, he may not be.

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 20:34

He is doing good for Mexico, Spain, Italy and now Russia.. what do you mean he doesn't mean good?

Haze

June 25th, 2001, 21:39

yeah, hes doing an excellend job of being a complete idiot.. correct me if im wrong but did the USA not just get kicked out of the UN? DUH? The USA has had a leash on other countries for far to long, and its time they started having minds of there own and now fear the military and people like Giancarlo.

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 21:43

He strengthened ties with Russia just by that one visit to Slovenia. Bush the idiot? No Clinton was.

Haze

June 25th, 2001, 21:52

Boy, he must have bought a lot of Vodka!

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 21:56

You are completely wrong, and a pathological liar.

Haze

June 25th, 2001, 22:02

I dare you to prove any of my statments wrong.

Giancarlo

June 25th, 2001, 22:04

I already have. You don't have any evidence to them anyways. It is just your own biased opinion.

Gayowulf

June 25th, 2001, 22:09

Originally posted by Giancarlo
He strengthened ties with Russia just by that one visit to Slovenia. Bush the idiot?

How can a single visit to any country, let alone one such as Russia, strengthen ties. Furthermore, how can a visit to Slovenia strengthen ties with Russia? Theres no USSR anymore.

It's not that Bush is an idiot. Everyone does things in their own ways; Some good, some questionable.