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Technics
June 27th, 2001, 07:04
They down again? Not a very reliable host is it?

I was looking at there packages yesterday and had a good old chuckle. Fox and NC_TOM you clearly arent aware of the restrictions of an RAQ. You can only host upto 200 sites on an RAQ and thats not adviseable either any more than a hundred and you have problems. So how will you offer unlimited Subdomains? I could come along and buy one package and setup 150 subdomains and your RAQ would be pretty darn useless.

You do not tell your customers how much you buy certain things from your provider for because they will expect you to sell it to them at the same price.

This is what i saw on the site yesterday you may of updated it since then, But i do suggest you learn more about how an RAQ works.
Haze
June 27th, 2001, 07:12
Down Again! I couldnt figure out the no static ip thing? I think they mean that you dont get assigned your own IP. But the way its done, it looks like your stuck with a dynamic IP. Then again, maybe the lack of sleep the past 4 days have cought up with me.
Technics
June 27th, 2001, 07:16
The hosting was/is name based and it's $2 per month with a $32 setup fee to have your site placed on a dedicated IP. Who in there right mind would pay that?

To get my site hosted on a dedicated IP address it would cost me $56 the first year. I could get a dedicated IP and webhosting for that cost. You need to think about your pricing structure.
3hosting4u
June 27th, 2001, 08:20
I hear alot of bad things about them here, has anyone actually got an account with them and can tell us what they are like?
Robert
June 27th, 2001, 09:08
you don't need an account to know that they are bad....
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 09:11
No matter what they offer, there downtime is horrendous. NC_Tom should leave this little scam now, before his name gets ruined.
rockergrrl
June 27th, 2001, 09:23
Alex asked me to help him out - because "you seem be good at php and i need a 2nd moderator for php"

I told him "no" because I'm working on too many things all at onces right now (including my own hosting business).
Robert
June 27th, 2001, 09:38
I offered Alex to help him with the server and be the server administrator for the server. And I did, I fixed up the server, I installed everything you asked, I made sure it was updated with all the required secuirty patches and such. But than I wasn't even recieving my credit for it. All the staff pages kept saying "SERVER ADMIN: TOM". And I was like, wait a second, I did all this work to let Tom (nothing personal Tom) take all the credit? I too have a webhosting company to run and he wanted me to do everything immediately when he wanted it. Sorry.

I honestly did believe that KelmHosting could have been a good, successful company. But when I saw Alex tell people he charges .10 cents per extra GB they go over and that he provides free hosting, I was like no way am I gonna be in this.

I offered Alex to be co-owner, that is when I thought KelmHosting was going to be a good company. He told me no, that is his mom didn't want a co-owner. And than the next day Tom is Co-Owner. Alex thought by having Tom as the Co-Owner he would get more signups. But than again, who knows more about a RaQ? I do. But its cool, I'm glad I didn't get involved.

One of my friends went into Alex's chatroom and Alex told him he loved Tacidhost and that Tacidhost was great. Do I see another Tacidhost forming here?

To NC_TOM: As I have told you before, he will give you a bad name. Get out while you have a chance. He will get you introuble. Tom, yes I understand you have different plans for Kelmhosting and working with Alex to improve it, but it's too late. There is no trust in that company.

To Alex: You have no concept of money and no idea how to run a professional webhosting business. Charging .10 cents per extra GB will make you suffer a lot. That means 50GB is only 5 Dollars. You only have 150GB of bandwidth on that server, which for $15 dollars I can purchase all 150GB. You went to quick in opening up.

To PSX-Dude: If Alex gives you Vbulletin, trash it. it's an illegal copy. He has done this before and I bet you he will give you the illegal copy. I know because he has been asking Tom and other people to give him some money to help purchase VBulletin. Sorry to had to waste your time designing a site for him with nothing inreturn.

To Rockergrrl: :) Smart move. Never get involved. lol.

And one more note, Alex, you lie so much it's unbelieveable. Again he told my friend that he had sold I think 9 cobalt servers at $150 a month and a $250 setupfee (he resells rackshack's 99 dollar servers but chares $150 instead). That means that you made $2,250 alone on setup fees and make an average of $1,350 a month? Geez I'm in the wrong business here. My friend could have been a potential client, and that's how he lies? Geez.

Just my .2 cents.
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 09:56
Thanks for that insight, Robert... this will tell me not to have do anything with Alex he really rips people off by giving himself or someone else credit and he doesn't have any knowledge in finances.
Technics
June 27th, 2001, 10:01
Think that sums it all up.
Fox
June 27th, 2001, 10:22
Tom has guaranteed me he will not leave. We will not be getting vbb, I have though got a refund for AutoSetup v2.0 which I plan to buy a vbb licence to give to psx-dude. Now please understand as our raq needs it we will be upgrading when it needs it. We can upgrsade to around 512MB of ram.

ALSO: We will be using our own nameservers and I hope I can aplogize for all the downtime you've been seeing. You don't understand whats going on kelmnetwork.com hasent been down but kelmhosting.com has because it's on a brand new server tom got. We have 2 servers (do a nslookup on kelmhosting.com and kelmnetwork.com) I do though aplogize for all the ways I have acted and I am planning to straighten all this out and make it better. If you have any questions please just email me at Alex@KelmNetwork.com I again aplogize if you think kelmhosting is a bad company. Also we're not even open yet, that is why I personally think that we're allowedto have LOTS of downtime becasuewe're not even open. Please frogive me.. I didn't mean to have any downtime because I didn't think 1 million people we're viisting my site. I'm only pulling 25MB of bandwith over the whole server. and Only 9MB of n the new server. Please check us out as ounce we open we will provide very good support, phone support (coming 3 days after we open), aol support, lots of things! Also to robert.. I didn't think you could be co-owner because you run your own webhosting company. Tom is getting half of our profit so he wouldent pull out. Ounce we open we will be good..very good.. I just hope people give us a try. I have 2 people lined up, and a 3rd very intrested person. Thank you! I aplogize.. you just don't understand how long i've been trying to get this dang company up. When I opened i admit i wanted to rush into things and open but i didnt.. I planed to open today but I most likely wont be unless I get this "Relaying denied! eror on kelmhosting.com" fixed... and i have a problem with *.cgiscripts just showing the text inside them and not the actual cgi cript.. but I will most likely be opening our 1st server today.. and if anybody has any questions feel free to email me at Alex@KelmNetwork.com. ounce again! I aplogize!!
- Alex
Owner & Founder Of The KelmNetwork
Fox
June 27th, 2001, 10:28
Also robert..
you may have thought I wasent giving you credit and that is why you are mad at me.. I had your name on there.. I had put it on there before you asked me to take you off of server admin... it might not have shown up.. because i uploaded it a little before you asked me to take it off.. so If you do want to still be server admin please contact me on AIM or e-mail me at Alex@KelmNetwork.com and I will put at the bottom "Server Modified Or Adminstrated by Robert" or on the staff page: Server Admin: Robert.. TOM is co-owner.. and about that: my mom didnt want co-owner until tom went out and bought KELMHOSTING ANOTHER server... so he is getting 50/50 of our net profit.
Technics
June 27th, 2001, 10:32
The correct way - Once not Ounce .....

Alex,


You've ruined your reputation as hosting company. Nobody will be willing todo business with you now or in 3 months time or 3 years time.

I know why your getting the problems with the cgi scripts also .... take a look in your httpd.conf file and you'll see that the server hasnt setup the domain correctly. Manually add the perl extensions to this and it will work we had that problem on our server.

Relaying, Make sure both www.kelmhosting.com and kelmhosting.com are in the relaying list and also the domains IP. If they arent add them and u'll see that they work fine.
Fox
June 27th, 2001, 10:44
I don't think Ihave i think ounce i get up and running people will understand how i have been the last few days.. I've been up almost 22 hours with no sleep.. and I sill have to go to bed.. i've only gone to bed over the last few days round 4 or 8 hours of sleep.. i am very tired and I just want to get this thing off of the ground.
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 10:50
No one will sign up with you now, Alex... you are worse than Yupapa. 1 Million people visiting your site? Yeah right, and zero signups?
Technics
June 27th, 2001, 10:50
Lack of sleep explains the lies?

I'mma use that excuse in future if im ever caught lying.
Valuablehost
June 27th, 2001, 10:53
Hi,

I agree, even on dedicated linux that can easily host 300 sites, its best to host 200, to keep everything going well. I have no idea how an raq can hold more then 200 sites.

Originally posted by Technics
They down again? Not a very reliable host is it?

I was looking at there packages yesterday and had a good old chuckle. Fox and NC_TOM you clearly arent aware of the restrictions of an RAQ. You can only host upto 200 sites on an RAQ and thats not adviseable either any more than a hundred and you have problems. So how will you offer unlimited Subdomains? I could come along and buy one package and setup 150 subdomains and your RAQ would be pretty darn useless.

You do not tell your customers how much you buy certain things from your provider for because they will expect you to sell it to them at the same price.

This is what i saw on the site yesterday you may of updated it since then, But i do suggest you learn more about how an RAQ works.
Valuablehost
June 27th, 2001, 10:55
Yes, RockerGrrl, hows it going? did burst.net ever setup your server? i remember when you use to join the folks at hosthideout :)

Originally posted by rockergrrl
Alex asked me to help him out - because "you seem be good at php and i need a 2nd moderator for php"

I told him "no" because I'm working on too many things all at onces right now (including my own hosting business).
YUPAPA
June 27th, 2001, 10:55
WHO IS RockerGrrl????:eek:
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 10:56
She is the Female Moderator.
Valuablehost
June 27th, 2001, 10:58
lol, i think yupapa is better :)

Originally posted by Giancarlo
No one will sign up with you now, Alex... you are worse than Yupapa. 1 Million people visiting your site? Yeah right, and zero signups?
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 10:59
I do to... which is quite strange. This means Kelmhosting is really, really, really bad.
rockergrrl
June 27th, 2001, 11:06
YuPapa -- I can tell you don't pay attention much to the board other than to post about your services. I've been a part of FWS for a couple years now - I've been a moderator here, since they switched to vBulletin almost a year ago. Hence the reason why my username is listed under the moderator column.

:D

ValuableHost
Yeah they set it up - a week later... And then I wasn't thrilled with their support -- They setup my nameservers to IPs and didn't tell me which ones, and I even had Nick (Brown) try and figure it out for him (because I couldn't figure it out) and he couldn't do it... So I ICQed, AIMed and even submited tickets - asking which IPs they set my nameservers to, and I didn't hear from them... So I asked for a refund after about 2 weeks... They just refunded my server setup and monthly cost and they still owe me a refund on my cpanel setup and the monthly cost. I'm waiting on that this week. I just recently moved 1400 miles to Florida - I'm still getting things in order here - but you'll see me there soon... :)
stu
June 27th, 2001, 11:24
Originally posted by Fox
Also robert..
you may have thought I wasent giving you credit and that is why you are mad at me.. I had your name on there.. I had put it on there before you asked me to take you off of server admin... it might not have shown up.. because i uploaded it a little before you asked me to take it off.. so If you do want to still be server admin please contact me on AIM or e-mail me at Alex@KelmNetwork.com and I will put at the bottom "Server Modified Or Adminstrated by Robert" or on the staff page: Server Admin: Robert.. TOM is co-owner.. and about that: my mom didnt want co-owner until tom went out and bought KELMHOSTING ANOTHER server... so he is getting 50/50 of our net profit.

Common spelling errors:
Ounce >> Once
Frogive >> Forgive

Anyways, I think robert should get something out of this. I think he got shafted the most on this whole thing..
Fox
June 27th, 2001, 12:04
We might leave the "KelmHosting" name and get another name.. with afresh new start
Giancarlo
June 27th, 2001, 12:22
Yeah like anyone would join with you then...
Valuablehost
June 27th, 2001, 14:18
Well,

if i was NC_Tom i would run as far as i could from "Alex" and "kelmhosting".

But thats me :)

Originally posted by Fox
We might leave the "KelmHosting" name and get another name.. with afresh new start
Mandrake
June 27th, 2001, 15:28
Originally posted by rockergrrl
Alex asked me to help him out - because "you seem be good at php and i need a 2nd moderator for php"

I told him "no" because I'm working on too many things all at onces right now (including my own hosting business).

He asked me too, but I declined as I just started a new site that will be taking up a lot of my spare time for awhile, plus I may have a design job coming up soon.
NC_TOM
June 28th, 2001, 04:06
I was able to back out of that situation. I'm no longer involved in KelmHosting; things weren't going too good. Alex has good intentions but he doesn't know how to do some things yet. I helped out some, but the KelmHosting reputation is trash because of the way he's started out, and I don't want people thinking of me in the same way.

So it's official; I AM NOT RELATED TO KELMHOSTING ANYMORE :P


Hopefully I can get a refund from RackShack on that MySQL server I leased for us..

Most of what Alex knows he has learned from Robert and me.. maybe in a couple years he'll run a successful company.. I wish him luck, I got nothing against him except that he STILL lies (not as bad as before)

He's in public school, the homeschool bit is total BS, he told me that during the 5 hours we spent on the phone (at my expense) talking about KelmHosting plans.
Valuablehost
June 28th, 2001, 04:11
Good to hear, you saved yourself a ton :)

Originally posted by NC_TOM
I was able to back out of that situation. I'm no longer involved in KelmHosting; things weren't going too good. Alex has good intentions but he doesn't know how to do some things yet. I helped out some, but the KelmHosting reputation is trash because of the way he's started out, and I don't want people thinking of me in the same way.

So it's official; I AM NOT RELATED TO KELMHOSTING ANYMORE :P


Hopefully I can get a refund from RackShack on that MySQL server I leased for us..

Most of what Alex knows he has learned from Robert and me.. maybe in a couple years he'll run a successful company.. I wish him luck, I got nothing against him except that he STILL lies (not as bad as before)

He's in public school, the homeschool bit is total BS, he told me that during the 5 hours we spent on the phone (at my expense) talking about KelmHosting plans.
NC_TOM
June 28th, 2001, 04:27
However I wasted 3 days, 5 hours of long distance, and $350 on a server (the server might be refundable) in the process..
gyrbo
June 28th, 2001, 05:26
Wow! If you plan on getting involved with that guy again, just send me a check of 100$ and leave the guy.
Giancarlo
June 28th, 2001, 08:27
$350? If I went ahead and spent that amount for Alex, I would be screaming to get the refund... my parents wouldn't just give me money for no reason. Alex has lied about his schooling, services and just about everything else. His little money sucking failed ventures will never be successful.
curiousity
June 29th, 2001, 16:07
This Alex guy is not Alex Russo at russoweb.com right? They are two different persons right?
grex
June 29th, 2001, 21:31
Hm...Curiousity, I have the same question...lol
YUPAPA
June 29th, 2001, 21:32
me too!
but howcome he uses a different account!
if it is him, he must have two different FWS account

check to see if he has the same IP!
curiousity
June 29th, 2001, 21:58
Checking IP from the forum does not always give you the right answer. A person can just use Anonymizer or the proxy program, or even AOL can produce multiple IP's and will produce different IP address. If there is a will, there is a way.
YUPAPA
June 29th, 2001, 22:21
I see!
I still have to learn many things from you guys!
Bruce
June 29th, 2001, 23:26
It is not the same Alex...
LastActionHero
June 30th, 2001, 01:25
He Is the SAME Alex. I think i read that at webhostingtalk.
Fox
June 30th, 2001, 08:53
LMAO!
I am not Alex Russo.. nor have I ever posted under the useranme of Alex Russo
Giancarlo
June 30th, 2001, 09:58
That is good to hear, no one is going to sign up with you now.
grex
June 30th, 2001, 12:15
Oh.....he is not the same guy?

Then, you are right Giancarlo!!
curiousity
June 30th, 2001, 14:56
Originally posted by YUPAPA
I see!
I still have to learn many things from you guys!

I still have a lot to learn also....I don't even know how to ping a website and how to interpret the ping data yet because I have never done it before. I have post a message for someone to explain the ping procedure on another thread. Hope I will learn something from that also.
LastActionHero
June 30th, 2001, 15:13
Originally posted by curiousity


I still have a lot to learn also....I don't even know how to ping a website and how to interpret the ping data yet because I have never done it before. I have post a message for someone to explain the ping procedure on another thread. Hope I will learn something from that also.

Now you know! :)
YUPAPA
June 30th, 2001, 18:57
Originally posted by curiousity


I still have a lot to learn also....I don't even know how to ping a website and how to interpret the ping data yet because I have never done it before. I have post a message for someone to explain the ping procedure on another thread. Hope I will learn something from that also.


I think you go to run "PING.EXE" and then type in the domain name... I have done this before... I don't exactly remember how that works...
rockergrrl
June 30th, 2001, 19:32
actually...

You go the your start menu.... go to run...

type:

ping domain.com
or
ping IP Address

That's it...
meow
July 2nd, 2001, 16:25
...which will run ping.exe :)

Actually that doesn't work for me (somethig is screwed I think). I need to use the prompt.
psx-dude
July 4th, 2001, 22:32
cd c:\windows\system32
ping IP/Domain

BTW, Alex has started a new host: http://216.12.210.4 that was his old ip and stuff, just a word of warning ;) because I still haven't recieved my vB from all those other layouts......
 
July 4th, 2001, 22:38
Originally posted by psx-dude
BTW, Alex has started a new host: http://216.12.210.4 that was his old ip and stuff, just a word of warning ;) because I still haven't recieved my vB from all those other layouts......

The url to his new host is http://www.bluehost.cc
Giancarlo
July 4th, 2001, 23:09
Wow, the era of bull----ism continues in this new host......
Haze
July 4th, 2001, 23:43
I cant even reach the site.. dos perhaps? I pinged it and it was fine.. wierd stuff.
stu
July 5th, 2001, 00:23
Originally posted by -


The url to his new host is http://www.bluehost.cc

so much for hiding under a new identity..

hey, looks who's still working there:
Tom - Tom@BlueHost.cc
Alex- Alex@BlueHost.cc
Robert- Robert@BlueHost.cc
http://216.12.210.4/contactus.html
Valuablehost
July 5th, 2001, 04:49
Thanks, i'll let the word out on WHT, Robert i am not very happy to see your name on the staff list and that they are part of dimension 8 :(
Robert
July 5th, 2001, 10:40
I dont know why he added my name..


read this

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=57641#post57641
NC_TOM
July 5th, 2001, 10:42
Hey,

Alex is NOT involved in BlueHost.cc . It is run exclusively by Robert and myself. The domain was temporarily leading to Alex's server; he does not have control over ANY aspects of BlueHost. I don't want any rumors starting.
psx-dude
July 15th, 2001, 22:58
he's started up, freedomhost.. or that might be someone else... http://216.12.210.4/
Haze
July 15th, 2001, 23:05
Alex already told us about his free host venture sometime before he was banned. BTW, i missed it. Does anyone know why alex was banned?
YUPAPA
July 16th, 2001, 00:25
I thought he is busy with his web hosting stuff...
He is banned?
How do you know?
meow
July 16th, 2001, 00:47
YUPAPA!!! :) Don't think he is. His name isn't gone. "Fox" that is.
Haze
July 16th, 2001, 01:59
he told me he was banned.
Todd
July 16th, 2001, 02:30
He isn't allowed to post at this message board. He has opened multiple accounts in the past and was banned. He is not welcome back at this point and time.

This thread had run it's course and is essentially done so I am locking it.