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darkcurves
June 5th, 2005, 10:01
Hmm, well i was checking out some sites and saw this forum. Registered and was looking around. To my suprise, there was this thread on child porn with pics and videos. What i cannot believe is the members there are asking for more! That is sick. Anyway, what should i do? Please dont ask me to go to my local police station coz i wont. I heard US is very strict about this issue. Is there a way to report to US police? I think the server is in US too.

Robert
June 5th, 2005, 10:15
If you PM me the address, I will send it to the proper authorities. It's disgusting what people will do.

bairdoid
June 5th, 2005, 10:31
Also do whois check on them and contact the service provider im sure they wont be pleased about it either. disgusting hang them

college-student
June 5th, 2005, 10:32
give me the location of where this site is based in, or just pm me the url and i'll take it up with HRW and the closest UNDP office in the area.

Robert
June 5th, 2005, 10:43
I have reported it to the correct authorities. I didn't want to contact their upstream provider, I want the FBI and the other authorities to see it first hand before their upstream provider removes it

Simply disgusting.

Bruce
June 5th, 2005, 10:43
http://www.asacp.org

Gayowulf
June 5th, 2005, 16:20
what sort of forum was it?

It's a little disturbing if this stuff starts popping up on regular, run of the mill forums.

Blank Verse
June 5th, 2005, 18:03
I think it's more disturbing if there are actual forums dedicated to the sole purpose of child pornography.

Robert
June 5th, 2005, 20:18
Well the ASACP replied:



Unfortunately, we only report `websites`, not
newsgroups, chat boards, bbs, email or web
communities. You may report these types of online
child pornography through the National Center for
Missing and Exploited Children
(http://www.missingkids.com).


So I'll contact the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

darkcurves
June 6th, 2005, 01:31
I hope having child porn in HDD is illegal too. It's not a regular forum btw.

jmiller
June 6th, 2005, 01:44
Then why register to begin with ?

Surely there was some warning as to what it was, prior to registration.

darkcurves
June 6th, 2005, 03:50
Sigh, okkkk, i was checking out some porn sites and found this forum. So i register to get some free porn and found that thread. Happy?

Meksilon
June 6th, 2005, 10:08
Sigh, okkkk, i was checking out some porn sites and found this forum. So i register to get some free porn and found that thread. Happy?Best thing to do is to kick the habit now, today as of THIS minute. You'll never look back.

I'd like to show you something, which I've been monitoring for a while.

url removed

I've counted, and it was more than 400 last time I checked. When said member began offering his DVD's for sale/trade he had a large collection - maybe 50 or so (or 40ish), and I thought that he was trying to give them up or something. Instead his collection has grown. The exact opposite of what I originally thought. If anything it could be an indication that the thread should be closed, in the interests of stopping this kind of thing continuing (ie people's bad habits getting worse).

Bruce
June 6th, 2005, 10:27
Best thing to do is to kick the habit now, today as of THIS minute. You'll never look back.
I'm sorry... give up porn? :wtf:

Looking at porn isn't a "bad habbit". It's perfectly normal behavior.

//edit

Of course I'm not referring to child porn here. That is disturbing.

darkcurves
June 6th, 2005, 11:05
Dude, i dunno what you did in the past, but i am NOT addicted to porn. Just saw this child porn thing and wanted to do something about it.

jmiller
June 6th, 2005, 12:09
Well, registering for it wasn't the best idea.

Now, when/if they get caught, I'm sure they'll check the logs.

darkcurves
June 6th, 2005, 12:18
Actually only members can view the forum. So i had to register. If i didn't, i wouldn't have known that there was sick things going on. Btw, i did not download the videos and have already cleared my internet offline files.

netnexus
June 6th, 2005, 13:04
You wont get in trouble if it was a regular porn forum - the fact that htey had child porn on there tho is disturbing.

EDIT: you wont get in trouble if u didn't participate in the thread, or dl anything, etc. I doubt the FBI or the proper authorities can even do much save shut the forum down and go after the people who actually distributed the cp.

And guys, don't bash him for looking at porn - there is nothing unnatural about that.

Wojtek
June 6th, 2005, 13:06
safe 18+ porn @ a l 4 a

Meksilon
June 6th, 2005, 21:37
Dude I'm not bashing anyone. :shame: Just saying I've seen the habit get worse and worse over time. The link I provided showed one person's personal porn collection over the past 3 years increase from 50 to 500. (or 480ish - something like that). Just so the mods know, there was no porn at that link; nor was there illegal trading or anything.

And besides, addiction is just a degree of dependence; if you really wanted to disprove dependence on porn you'd have no choice but to remove it entirely from your life - if you can't, or won't do that it indicates addiction. Just remember, you said addiction, not me.

Oh and by the way it's very difficult to ever prosecute anyone for child porn. Although (according to Australian Law) any form of porn which portrays the participants as being less than 18 (even if they are actually older than 18) is illegal, without positive ID it can be impossible to prove age. Also, you cannot show the images/videos to a jury; because of the graphic nature. Because of this Jury members have to rely on the testimony of forensic teams - without "seeing" any evidence themselves.

And as you have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt, it's very, very rarely drawn to a successful prosecution. This is the whole truth of the situation, and I know none of us like to hear it; and I'm sure law enforcement agencies all over the world wish that the public not become aware - but I'm sorry it is like that.

The situation may be more resolved in countries where you are guilty until proven innocent (and in said countries more of the guilty are successfully prosecuted - and surprising not so much more of the innocent). Citizens don't like the idea though, of guilty until proven innocent. But with a 98ish% prosecution rate (of all criminal cases) it does work (and for those who think that rate is "too high" just remember very rarely is an innocent person actually put on trial). I'm not saying we should adopt it; just observing certainly in cases like this Justice is much easier to obtain.

Wojtek
June 7th, 2005, 08:42
Meksilon seems to forget that theres also an "artistic" part to child porn, wich complicates the matter

read: http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36790 from 3.5 yrs ago :)

FaithBowie
June 7th, 2005, 13:28
Dude I'm not bashing anyone. :shame: Just saying I've seen the habit get worse and worse over time. The link I provided showed one person's personal porn collection over the past 3 years increase from 50 to 500. (or 480ish - something like that). Just so the mods know, there was no porn at that link; nor was there illegal trading or anything.

And besides, addiction is just a degree of dependence; if you really wanted to disprove dependence on porn you'd have no choice but to remove it entirely from your life - if you can't, or won't do that it indicates addiction. Just remember, you said addiction, not me.


Oh no....I'm addicted to Pepsi.... Actually I don't think there's anything wrong with pornography, so long as it's legal ( 18+ at least ) and it doesn't rule your life, lol. Besides, porn is a good friend of mine, so I'm biased. ;)

darkcurves, I did a quick search for organizations this could be reported to. God the whole idea's just...wrong, eugh *shudder*. Anyway, here are the links I came up with, hope these help!

http://www.asacp.org/
http://www.tinhat.com/children/report_pornography.html

Meksilon
June 7th, 2005, 22:50
Meksilon seems to forget that theres also an "artistic" part to child porn, wich complicates the matter

read: http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36790 from 3.5 yrs ago :)...nutidy and porn are two compleatly different things.

bozley05
June 10th, 2005, 23:48
It depends on where the site is based too. As different countries have different ages, my friend who is in the ----- entertainment industry told me that I think it was germany, that 14 is the legal age (topless only) and many countries including Australia and UK 16 is the legal age for models.

With all these conventions, treaties and agreements countries have, you think they could adopt an across-the-board 18+ rule.

Gayowulf
June 11th, 2005, 13:50
read: http://freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36790 from 3.5 yrs ago :)

I misss Chicken :(

niv
June 11th, 2005, 14:05
I misss Chicken :(
:chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :chicken: :chicken:
That enough for you? :smash:

Bruce
June 11th, 2005, 14:19
I misss Chicken :(
Aye.

You really only see him at his own forums these days... but I guess that's understandable.

Robert
June 12th, 2005, 09:38
Just an update on the site that darkcurves gave me:

Since ASACP didn't want to assist, I decided to take things into my own hands. So far, their site has been taken down by 3 different hosts and as of yesterday, they've had to move to 2 new hosts. But I've sent out the necessary e-mails today to get those sites taken down again.

They do realize someone is after them:



We are sorry to say due to continuation of Server Attacks by some rivals...


I will continue to have their site taken down.

bozley05
June 12th, 2005, 20:38
Contact their domain registrar and get them to disable/takeover the domain... Like they have done witha number of torrent sites. If you break laws you can lose the rights to your domain name.

netnexus
June 13th, 2005, 11:59
but then they will registe under a new domain name, and we wont know where they are to shut them down anymore. Let them keep their domain name till they get fed up of moving hosts.

Robert
June 13th, 2005, 13:24
Well they've had to move to ANOTHER host now. Mawahaha.

And now no word from them. Since I had to signup to see the forum, I get their "update" e-mails.

Daniel
June 13th, 2005, 13:58
Wow these guys are serious at being sick...

bozley05
June 13th, 2005, 18:20
Does their whois have the proper address of the owner? We could all chip in $50 and hire a hitman, that could be the most effective method.

Me wonders why the authorities won't go near it though.

Robert
June 13th, 2005, 18:35
Does their whois have the proper address of the owner? We could all chip in $50 and hire a hitman, that could be the most effective method.

Me wonders why the authorities won't go near it though.

They use a free .tk domain and then find free hosting providers that supports php/mysql so they have a backup copy of the mysql database and they just reupload it to the new site.

niv
June 13th, 2005, 20:29
If they move to an unprotected residential connection, tell me so I can ping -f them :p

Robert
June 13th, 2005, 21:59
To be honest, I don't even know if the child pornography is still in their forums. For them to even allow such material (and it was 3 pages long!) is disgusts me enough to now dedicated a few minutes a day locating their new host and e-mailing them.

Their latest host is The Planet. E-mailed has been dispatched.

jmiller
June 13th, 2005, 22:05
If they move to an unprotected residential connection, tell me so I can ping -f them :p
right, and that'd do oh so much.
wait, no it wouldn't. :rolleyes:

ZombieMatt
June 30th, 2005, 21:50
Right on if anyone needs any help (alot of people e-mailing the provider, the more they get e-mails about the site the better), I am here to help. Just let me know via pm.

My friends cousin was subjected to having pics taken of her at a young age, quite sad really, I am with Rob: "disgusts me enough to now dedicated a few minutes a day locating their new host and e-mailing them."

Daniel
July 22nd, 2005, 01:37
???????

Dean
July 22nd, 2005, 02:30
Thats THE weirdest postI have seen - EVER.

Bruce
July 22nd, 2005, 10:03
I guess he felt like giving us a quick background check on himself while also informing us he likes child porn. :confused:

ryza
July 22nd, 2005, 13:10
Robert have u considered just emailing the site owner and asking him to remove the thread?

overulehost
July 22nd, 2005, 13:24
yeah.. it is a disgrace such things are still happening.

Corazu
July 22nd, 2005, 17:14
Oi, if any more help is needed...perhaps we could create an email bot, so that way robert just sends the email to each person's bot and it sends their personal message to each host as they move :P

Regards,

Robert
July 22nd, 2005, 19:11
Robert have u considered just emailing the site owner and asking him to remove the thread?

No. The site owner participated in that thread. They were so excited to have porn featuring an 11 year old child.

jmiller
July 22nd, 2005, 19:22
Robert,

Have you tried contacting dot.tk ?

They seem to be pretty careful about where they are redirecting too, and am sure they would quickly delete the domain.

Renegade
July 22nd, 2005, 19:53
That is extremely sick! 11 year olds!? God, sick people these days.

Robert
July 22nd, 2005, 19:54
They are not using a .tk domain. They have a SQL Backup of their forum and everytime they get terminated, they get a new (most are free) hosts and upload their backup SQL File and then email their members the new URL.

jmiller
July 22nd, 2005, 20:11
They are not using a .tk domain. They have a SQL Backup of their forum and everytime they get terminated, they get a new (most are free) hosts and upload their backup SQL File and then email their members the new URL.
Well, I somehow misunderstood then. :rolleyes:


They use a free .tk domain and then find free hosting providers that supports php/mysql so they have a backup copy of the mysql database and they just reupload it to the new site.

Robert
July 22nd, 2005, 20:18
Well, I somehow misunderstood then. :rolleyes:

Yes, but they are not using .tk domain anymore. They stopped because of the amount of times they had to change LOL. So far it's everyday.

jmiller
July 22nd, 2005, 20:20
Well, there was no way of my knowing that.

Perhaps "They are no longer using a .tk domain." would have sufficed instead. =)

Robert
July 22nd, 2005, 20:25
Well now you do, so moving on.

Sally_who
July 27th, 2005, 16:33
i think it's kind of difficult this matter...sometimes police is envolved, they are payd to ignore the situation because this is a miltimillinare bussines and worst of all child prostitution still exist...