Megagiga and such... [Archive]

Ryan_man

July 4th, 2001, 11:42

Dito. I need a place that doesn't require a signature. I mean that's so dumb. Why do you have to sign for a free service? First of all, it's a waste of time, it's hard to find a fax, and their webmaster/support guy is an --- when it comes to asking for alternatives.

Requiring that you either snail mail or fax him (which I dont have) a whole contract, goes to show how insecure the company really is. When you sign up for megagiga do you need to fax a 15 page contract to them? NO, and it's perfectly legal if you don't. CA says that it's required by law, but it's not... Unless he's throwing in a free car. CA is the worst reseller in my opinion.

jfb

July 4th, 2001, 12:21

Huh,

Excelland is dead (I was just beginning to build a site there).

Megagiga is... NO SUPPORT.

I had to create a second site, the first one was refusing new applications with a cool
mkdir: Could not create directory
But for the rest it is ok.

see my congowebs.wigloo.com

JF B

martian

July 4th, 2001, 15:12

There are no good free reselling services (left)...

Ryan_man

July 4th, 2001, 17:45

ok :( that's too bad heh. I tried to use affiliate programs on various top notch web hosts, but with no prevail. They would not accept me for unknown reasons. :( :(

cowax

July 4th, 2001, 19:04

Originally posted by Ryan_man
CA is the worst reseller in my opinion.

HA! You think megagiga and excelland is any better? Making you sign a hard copy of a contract instead of just clicking a checkbox ensures that you read or atleast took time to look over the TOS. I can guarruntee there are no warez sites joined to CA, frankly because of this. It makes user's who won't appreciate their services not sign up. It takes alot of money to run CA, the least thing you could do is sign a paper.

keith

July 4th, 2001, 19:06

Originally posted by beanmaster2001
the probelm with community architect is u have to print out a form and send it to them in the mail, i just dont have the time, are there any others?
i think if you're actually serious about going through with it, that shouldn't be a problem at all. that's the reason community architect is still going strong, and everywhere else sucks or has died.

it takes two minutes to fill out their form, and 2 seconds to fax it. i got off my lazy butt and did it, why can't you? unless you want a service that sucks, use community architect.

Mandrake

July 5th, 2001, 00:27

Archbob

July 5th, 2001, 00:48

Megagiga would be good if it weren't for the file size limit on co-branded host sites. I can't reach community architect for some odd reason, excelland ceased to exist, and I can't for the life of me find the co-brand thing from ascension web. So I'm stuck w/megagiga.

ghobro

July 5th, 2001, 06:51

it takes two minutes to fill out their form, and 2 seconds to fax it. i got off my lazy butt and did it, why can't you? unless you want a service that sucks, use community architect

if you live on USA there is no problem to fax it, but how if you in Asia like me?

Ryan_man

July 5th, 2001, 21:55

Yeah or how about if you don't have a FAX or SCANNER? idiots. Plus I live in The Great White North, and i'm not paying the long distance fees just so I can get 10% more hits a day. CA sux admit it. Their contract is almost as if your buying a car or doing your taxes or buying life insurance, it's dumb. They don't need a fricking signature, it's all bull.

ghobro

July 7th, 2001, 06:38

but, after excelland i think they the best. I have signed up at megagiga, but i can't upload my file. I tried at portland too, and set MX record to bigmailbox. After more than 2 day, i can't received my mail.

Ryan_man

July 7th, 2001, 19:35

To upload on Megagiga you have to uncheck PASV in your FTP proggie. It's easy just to go settings or the edit option in your connection manager.

Toefur

July 8th, 2001, 00:39

LOL... I bought a scanner just so I could scan and email my Community Architect contract/agreement thingy :D

keith

July 8th, 2001, 18:16

Originally posted by Ryan_man
Yeah or how about if you don't have a FAX or SCANNER? idiots. Plus I live in The Great White North, and i'm not paying the long distance fees just so I can get 10% more hits a day. CA sux admit it. Their contract is almost as if your buying a car or doing your taxes or buying life insurance, it's dumb. They don't need a fricking signature, it's all bull.

ryan, ryan, ryan... i think a guy who wants to run a free webspace host free of charge as much as you've proven you want to would jump head over heels at an opportunity like this.

it's not like buying a car, hahahahaha... it's free hosting. there is a difference there. i just think a guy with your apparent mental capabilities just can't handle the paultry job of going to the local shopping center and paying 20 cents for a fax. sheesh.

they're not asking for an arm and a leg. it doesn't cost you a cent to use their service... and i don't know where the heck you get needing a scanner for this , all you need is a printer and a fax machine. a printer is one of the most common items in homes [with a computer] today. if you don't have one, surely at least [I]one of your friends will. and any decent local business will have a fax machine which i'm sure they'd be more than happy to let you use for a modest fee of well under one stinking dollar.

sooo... any other arguments against using them? lethargy? no driver's license? no parent with a drivers license?

Ryan_man

July 8th, 2001, 20:38

lmfao. What a cocky individual. Mr Zeus should I call you? Since your so much better than us, I suppose you didn't care about long distance charges? First of all, like I said I don't have a fax, and "fax places" do not allow long distant faxes over 90 cents. I didn't say I was too lazy to go do it, but the fact is, is that you don't need to sign a contract over a free service. Basically it's like signing in to use a public bathroom, and it's pointless. I can see maybe a survery/contract w/o a "legal binding" signature. That would be so much more conveinent than paying the "10 cents" (it's $1.59 for a fax here SA) for a fax. Frankly with the visitors I get now, I can't see why I should have to pay money just to sign up for a free service which will in the long term earn CA money with their advertisments. It is not worth it. And I thank you very much for NOT putting my O P I N I O N to the trash. It's my opinion and i'm entilted to it.

Toefur

July 8th, 2001, 21:21

and i don't know where the heck you get needing a scanner for this [i don't have one and everything went through fine], all you need is a printer and a fax machine. a printer is one of the most common items in homes [with a computer] today. if you don't have one, surely at least one of your friends will.

Don't have a fax machine. I needed a scanner so I could scan the thing in, after printing it, and email it off to them. I'm not complainin'.

keith

July 8th, 2001, 23:21

Originally posted by Ryan_man
lmfao. What a cocky individual. Mr Zeus should I call you? Since your so much better than us, I suppose you didn't care about long distance charges? First of all, like I said I don't have a fax, and "fax places" do not allow long distant faxes over 90 cents. I didn't say I was too lazy to go do it, but the fact is, is that you don't need to sign a contract over a free service. Basically it's like signing in to use a public bathroom, and it's pointless. I can see maybe a survery/contract w/o a "legal binding" signature. That would be so much more conveinent than paying the "10 cents" (it's $1.59 for a fax here SA) for a fax. Frankly with the visitors I get now, I can't see why I should have to pay money just to sign up for a free service which will in the long term earn CA money with their advertisments. It is not worth it. And I thank you very much for NOT putting my O P I N I O N to the trash. It's my opinion and i'm entilted to it.
...and all that coming to you directly from from the guy who wanted to start a free host off another free host. ahhahahahahahahahahaha!!! i guess if you can't sit on your --- the whole time and spend no more then 1 cent, it's not worth your time right? just want everything handed to you on a silver platter, eh? i guess the answer to my original question would be lethargy.

Originally posted by Ryan_man
Hey,
I was wondering if there's any more places like Megagiga or Excelland out there. Is there?
well guess what? looks like community architect is your only other choice, if you want people to be happy with it and have it last a pretty darn good while.

beanmaster2001

July 9th, 2001, 02:47

i dont have domain name either, so this service is useless to me.

cowax

July 9th, 2001, 05:29

ghobro

July 9th, 2001, 09:56

but sometimes we need free subdomain not to make money, but for ourself.

keith

July 9th, 2001, 16:25

Originally posted by cowax
This is just pityful. People who actually start their OWN host has to fork over hundreds to thousands of dollars for just their server and connection fees, and here you are with a chance of using this service for free. And yet your complaining about needing to sign a simple document and paying a low free of a buck to send it?
exactly! glad to see there are others with the ability to comprehend this simple logic.

Ryan_man

July 9th, 2001, 18:43

LoL. Yeah this sure is "pityful" (buy a dictionary for me will you?). this just sounds like another gang bashing post so i'll leave it at that. I guess you people just can't get it into your little 12 year old heads, that CA will be making money off of me, so they should be kissing my ---. Why did they fork over "hundreds" of dollars to start a free host? To MAKE MONEY! I didn't want to start a free host off another free host to make money, that's the difference here. I wanted to start one for the sake of my visitors. CA is in it for money, I am in it for my visitors. You got that now? You gang bashing opinion taking 12 year old nerds. You all don't really get what free hosts are out there to do. It's not to provide a free service to hundreds of people who just don't trust giving their credit cards out on the over populated internet. They do it for a profit. Therefor, I should not have to spend "1 cent" out of my pocket just to make their wallets thicker in width. That's it, it's final, stop b*tching over the fact that your wrong, and i'm right.

keith

July 9th, 2001, 22:52

Originally posted by Ryan_man
I guess you people just can't get it into your little 12 year old heads, that CA will be making money off of me

yeah, we get it. it's just that you can't get it through your thick skull that it is a business they are are running... and businesses make money [i know, i know... what a radical concept!!]. how else do you want them to provide it to you for free?? all it takes is simple common sense man, i'm sure if you try hard enough you can muster some up.

they're in it for money because it's a business, genius. sheez, you're really starting to surprise me. all this general knowledge is flying right over your head.

oh yeah, you're wrong... :cool:

Ryan_man

July 9th, 2001, 23:56

Do you even read my posts? I said the reason I think they should be kissing MY --- is because if I partner with them, in the long run i'm making money for them. Idiot, read, then reply. Reply, then read. Are you starting to get the idea yet? Or should I type in a different language? Maybe french? Spanish? Oh I know, it's the A$$HOLE language!!

Archbob

July 10th, 2001, 00:14

Ryan, what the hell are you complaining about? They are paying for your bandwidth costs and server costs. Yes, they may make money off you in the long run, but every free web host makes money off their users in the long run, that is the point of a business. I'm guessing that making money is also the point why many of us here have a site(I do it mainly as a hobby but I know there are many professionals out there). I don't think faxing over an agreement is outragoes. I had to fax over a agreement to join a sponser once and guess what, THEY ARE MAKING MONEY OFF ME TOO.
I joined Megagiga because setup is easier and a top and foot banner isn't unreasonable if you look at the ads of other free webhosts such as crosswinds, spaceports, and webjump. I started 4 days ago and I already have 9 users. Megagiga makes you sign a contract too, just not fax it.

So no, they should not be kissing your --- to get you to sign up, they have many other clients who want to use their service. If you don't want to spend a freakin dollar and fax over a agreement then I suggest you lay down the money and buy your own server and bandwidth.

CA, megagiga, and such will benefit you in the long run too(you are benefitting from their services, ever think of that?)

Ryan_man

July 10th, 2001, 00:23

??? I never said I was complaining. All I said is that it's pointless. P O I N T L E S S to have a "signed" contract. It's like I said, pointless. No one needs a signed contract for a free service. You show me the rules on the net where it says you need a manditory signed contract to use a free service. It would be so much more easier if they just had a regular online contract. Basically have it exactly the same, but without the manditory signature. I was never complaining I was trying to explain the reason why I'm not signing up for CA, and everyone jumped on me. I mean lol. I live in Canada, ok? I'm not paying long distant charges for an unessisary signature. And again, like I said before, I don't need them. So if they don't need me, and my 1500 unique visitors a day, then it doesn't bother me. I run a gaming site not one of those "webmaster" resources found so much today. Sure, it would be nice to run a FWP section for gamers and their clans to host a page on, but it's not like as if my webpage's life depends on it. That's all im saying, so stop telling me i'm a moron, because i'm not reading this nonsense post anymore.

Archbob

July 10th, 2001, 01:18

That depends on which way you look at it. When you sign up with megagiga or CA, you are entering a business partnership with them. They offer you a chance to start your own host while they get some shared ad space with you on your host. It is a business partnership and like all respectable business partnerships there must be a signed contract. This guarantees a fair deal and makes sure that they and you don't screw each other other.

Now I don't know if there is any person here that would enter a business partnership with someone else without a signed contract. I surely wouldn't entered such without a clear written-out contract and I don't think any intellegent businessman would either. A business has to protect itself.

gyrbo

July 10th, 2001, 07:52

OK, I kept my mouth shut for a while, but I just can leave it this way anymore.
I think it's useless to fax a contract to someone that offers a free service. It's just plain stupid, you're not going to let your visitors sign a contract because they enter your site? They also take bandwidth from you don't they? And information? Never thought about that?
On the other hand, it's not that hard to fax a small piece of paper, just to get some free webspace. Your not selling your soul are you? If they have a contract with you, they can arange something against you if you break the rules.

keith

July 10th, 2001, 15:03

they take bandwidth from you? where do you get that?

YUPAPA

July 10th, 2001, 15:04

What's up keith?

keith

July 10th, 2001, 15:08

ryan_man's arguments no longer make any sense. he tells me read then reply, like he's some kinda smart guy, but that's exactly what i'm doing :cool:

some people just can't admit it when they're wrong. all these people with great arguments against his, and all he's able to do is call names! ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!.....

Toefur

July 11th, 2001, 01:08

Yupapa, you're my hero. :)

sarmadys

November 30th, 2001, 16:15

Anyone succeeded with communityarchitect matter?

Did they offered you that free hosting after you sent the fax?

Sometimes ago (about a year ago) I faxed it but they asked for money. From that time I have heared that they have changed their plans and have a free plan too.

I am not sure so I ask you ! Do they really offer it for free?

Mac