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QReyes
July 10th, 2001, 13:30
What is the best graphic processor for:
A) Making Web Graphics
B) Modifying Web Graphics
C) Making 3D Graphics
D) Making Animated Graphics
P.S.
What does the acronym JPEG & PNG mean? What are other graphic formats other than GIF, JPEG, Bitmap, and PNG? How are these format different?
gyrbo
July 10th, 2001, 13:54
TIFF, SWF
JP(E)G: Good for photo's with not too mutch detail (High compression with quality loss)
GIF: Best for graphics with lots of detail and less colors
PNG: Good for all kinds of graphics on the web (no quality loss)
TIFF: Uncompressed, verry large files, perfect for scanned pages with text.
SWF: Vector, good for simple graphics, the worst for photo's
I can give you around 20 other formats listed in my PSP save file box.
QReyes
July 10th, 2001, 14:11
What program would you recommend?
RedHat
July 10th, 2001, 14:33
A+B : PSP7 (and Photoshop)
C: Amapi 3D (very easy to start)
D: PSP7 +Ani3 + Ulead Gif Animator 4.0(or higher)
Giancarlo
July 10th, 2001, 14:35
Several other graphic types:
.pic - Sorta like BMP but much smaller
.bmp - Excessively large, but good quality.
The best program to use is Corel PhotoPaint, or Paint Shop Pro. Corel Photopaint is very expensive, and PSP (Paint Shop Pro) comes as shareware that can be download at any shareware site.
Archbob
July 11th, 2001, 00:43
I recommend Psp 7.0 . Most all graphics on the net are now gif with some jpg. I see bmp sometimes, but those just annoy me as their size is big.
QReyes
July 11th, 2001, 10:16
Where can I find statistics or list about the best graphic interface or softwares use by professionals and common people?
Where can I find the history about graphics in whole and in specific? e.g. What is the first graphic file format and software? Who invented Bitmap, GIF, JPEG, etc.?
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 10:33
not what your after?
http://www.wotsit.org/
has details of loads of file formats - it's a bit techy but can be useful
Giancarlo
July 11th, 2001, 11:42
Archbob, the mostly used format is the jpg, it is smaller than the GIf and is better.
gyrbo
July 11th, 2001, 11:54
I don't agree, I seldom use jpeg. gif has no quality loss.
el crapo
July 11th, 2001, 11:57
Yeah, I never use jpeg. Only gif because the quality is much better.
Giancarlo
July 11th, 2001, 11:58
Are you kidding? GIF sucks... the quality is horrible! The size is about twice that of JPG. All sites I go to uses JPG for large images.
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 12:05
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Are you kidding? GIF sucks... the quality is horrible! The size is about twice that of JPG. All sites I go to uses JPG for large images. as usual you are talking ----e
the only thing that sucks about gifs is the license
both are good for different things but gifs can be much cleaner than jpegs
you know squat all about optimization anyhow
meow
July 11th, 2001, 12:11
Don't fight kids. :)
Even a graphics idiot like me knows that GIF and JPG are good for different types of images. GIF is good for pics with greater, "clean", color fields (think cartoon). JPG is good for detailed images (think photograph). GIF is generally smaller but not necessarily. A detailed image is often smaller and of better quality in high compressed JPG format than in GIF.
BOTH WIN!
Giancarlo
July 11th, 2001, 12:21
you know squat all about optimization anyhow
AS usual, I know SQUAT ABOUT ANYTHING ACCORDING TO YOU, SHUT YOUR MOUTH. I know about some things that you don't. I know JPG is the format to use because it is better in quality.
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 12:25
you know so much you have images (jpg) on your site that are twice the size that they are displayed at and 0% compressed
in my books that means you know squat all
gyrbo
July 11th, 2001, 12:26
I try most my images in JPEG and GIF, and I use the smallest. Most of the time, it's GIF. I never use images with a lot of colors.
To Giancarlo: Please don't say tha f word
To lucifer: Don't give GC a hard time
To meow: That is my point of view too.
Giancarlo
July 11th, 2001, 12:30
Lucifer, SHUT UP! I use only the highest quality of everything. And that means the best size, those sizes the images are in load fine in 56k connections. You don't know squat about graphics.
JPG IS A BETTER QUALITY AND YOU KNOW IT, THIS TIME OR EVER I AM NOT WRONG.
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 12:44
Originally posted by meow
Even a graphics idiot like me knows that GIF and JPG are good for different types of images. GIF is good for pics with greater, "clean", color fields (think cartoon). JPG is good for detailed images (think photograph). GIF is generally smaller but not necessarily. A detailed image is often smaller and of better quality in high compressed JPG format than in GIF.
BOTH WIN!
meow
July 11th, 2001, 12:46
Originally posted by gyrbo
To meow: That is my point of view too.
Gyrbo, that feels so good. :)
Hey, listen a minute! I suggested the other day and Todd did the same to day: TAKE THE -----ING TO THE GENERAL FORUM. I'm including myself in that suggestion.
Giancarlo, people are trying to get information here. I can prove my opinion in 10 minutes if I bother to use a search engine. You can not. Please stop to serve up nonsense as facts. People that are new here can mistake it for the truth and they deserve better. When we aren't sure on something we say "I think" not "I know". OK?
Also stop to call me and others names, to shout and being aggressive. It's possible to discuss things and have different views without fighting all the time. OK?
Giancarlo
July 11th, 2001, 12:50
I use GIF only for animations and cheap cartoonish graphics, but when it comes to Photos JPG wins all the time.
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 12:52
Originally posted by Giancarlo
I use GIF only for animations and cheap cartoonish graphics, but when it comes to Photos JPG wins all the time. now I would agree with that 95%
meow
July 11th, 2001, 12:55
Yes. Just think that here is where we could have started. :rolleyes:
Let's have a silent minute and really contemplate this golden moment. United we stand. :)
lucifer
July 11th, 2001, 12:59
are you experimenting with drugs?
meow
July 11th, 2001, 13:08
No Ma'am. :)
zazoo
July 11th, 2001, 13:30
heh heh
meow's right, no file type holds a greater advantage over the other thats why they both still exist
gif is better because it can reduce the size by taking out colours being used and because of animations
jpg is better because it blends the picture together (and somehow that cuts down on size):confused:
anyways it really does depend on what you want if I were going to have a picture slowly fade from black to white, I would use jpg
If I were going to have small text in my image, I would use gif
It also depends on the programs you guys are using mabee lucifer uses a program that compresses gif better than jpg and mabee Giancarlo has a program the compresses jpg better than gif
but who really cares? we can just use picture types that fits us better. Now lets stop the mussen and the fussen and get down to the loven
;)
gyrbo
July 11th, 2001, 15:03
I'll try to explain.
GIF: Is good for detailed cartoons and text because it doesn't compress with quality loss. Also you can reduce the amount of color to the one that is truely used
JPEG: Is better for photo's because it compresses with quality loss (ever heard of JPEG artifacts?), and on text, that is verry visable.
QReyes
July 13th, 2001, 03:27
Originally posted by meow
Gyrbo, that feels so good. :)
Hey, listen a minute! I suggested the other day and Todd did the same to day: TAKE THE -----ING TO THE GENERAL FORUM. I'm including myself in that suggestion.
Giancarlo, people are trying to get information here. I can prove my opinion in 10 minutes if I bother to use a search engine. You can not. Please stop to serve up nonsense as facts. People that are new here can mistake it for the truth and they deserve better. When we aren't sure on something we say "I think" not "I know". OK?
Also stop to call me and others names, to shout and being aggressive. It's possible to discuss things and have different views without fighting all the time. OK?
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