Whats the deal with wantint editors?

[Archbob]

I don't get you webmasters. Now HTML is the easiest of languages to learn and master and if you know HTML well, you can make a layout just as good as any editor can give you(except maybe MM dreamweaver with the flash plugins). So for why don't some of you stop being lazy and learn how to write HTML and ftp. Without the requirement of the service having to have a good drag and drop editor(which might I add, drag and drop editor suck), you'll find that finding a host becomes much easier.

[meow]

Drag and drop editor is probably the most unusual request around here. And when it's asked it's mostly for good reason. Some one's 10 year old relative wants it or someone that doesn't have any interest i HTML or webdesign wants to put a couple of pictures online as pain free as possible.
What's your point? Exhilarated because you found Notepad?:confused:

[Archbob]

No, just saying that if you took the whole 3 hours to learn HTML, webpaging would be much easier.

[meow]

Thanks for your suggestion but I have given HTML a lot more than 3 hours and know it pretty well, I believe. ;)

[Phan]

A lot of webmasters, despite their extent knowledge of HTML use Dreamweaver or FP.

Chill...

Phan ;)

[meow]

Yes, but he was saying that if we stopped looking for HOSTS with drag and drop editors we might find one more easily. And as said, I don't see that request often. ;)

[Phan]

Oh Okay...got ya

Phan ;)

[Gayowulf]

I am a webmaster, and i am proud of how my site looks AND i didnt create it with notepad. WYSIWYG editors have taught me the HTML i know. I believe in learning by doing, and, at first, i couldnt "do" at all.

[meow]

:rolleyes: This isn't about WYSYWYG. It's about looking for hosts with online drag and drop page builders. Archbob seems to think that is what most of us are looking for and a say it isn't.

[Archbob]

I see the drag and drop or easy editor request because I don't know HTML very often when looking for free webhosts. I , myself, use Dreamweaver at times because of its design, but good knowledge of HTML is a must if your going to fix problems..

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by meow
:rolleyes: This isn't about WYSYWYG. It's about looking for hosts with online drag and drop page builders. Archbob seems to think that is what most of us are looking for and a say it isn't.

oops :)

Archbob- you are right. knowing HTML is an asset when it comes to solving problems, and coming up with new designs.

[Archbob]

Actually you can do pretty well knowing little HTML and using dreamweaver.

But if you accidently screw up a dreamweaver table, you had better know how to use HTML to fix it!

[bigperm]

Yeah, that's like... when I didn't know how to change the vertical align in a <td>, I just added valign="top" myself, until I stumbled upon the option.

But not very many people here don't know html.

[bigperm]

And since you are such an expert... you might want to change your sig to have a space between check out and the link to your site.

[meow]

I will regret this in a moment, but I blame the heat. Perhaps you should give HTML a little more than 3 hours? I suggest you start with the quotes and closing tags.
http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A//www.freehost.nu/members/archbob/default.html&input=yes
No offense pal, just couldn't resist and it's, uhm, warm. Very. ;)

[TJGuitar85]

You could learn HTML in 3 hours? I'd really like to learn it. I'm sick of Netscape Composer...someone said Arachnia or something was a better wysiwyg but I didnt really like it that much. I used to make webpages in notepad like editing tables from other sites and changing to my needs...then i found out about aolpress which sucked but i didnt even knew wysiwyg's existed. Is there any sites that teach html or do you have to get a damn book like html for dummies?

TJ

[Archbob]

The basic stuff like space(by the ways I know its <br>, I just got lazy and forgot when I wrote my sig. The bullets, the paragraph commands, tables and frames shouldn't take more than a few days. The dynamic CSS and some basic javascript might take you a few weeks though.

The best part of knowing HTML is not that you can write your own code but that you can read and understand other people's code. You can't say that for people who use drag and drop can you?

[niv]

also, drag and drop editors + WYSIWYG editors sometimes have extraneous code, code that you wouldn't need, and have you ever analyzed a page made in trellix? it's a complete mess! :mad:

[Archbob]

I seen that some editors are javascript-happy and add lines of needless javascript code onto your page, sometimes screwing it up.

[niv]

trellix is one of the worse. if you open a page made in trellix in pico, you'll have a hard time trying to find anything without using ^W of course...

[Bonesgeo]

Some of us are still looking for the any key on the key board, and you want us to learn code.
LOL
Some day mayby I'll take the 3 hrs to learn it, 'til then I'll stick with the drop and drag. Exspeicaly with my typing skills.

[gyrbo]

Get dreamweaver. Learn some html from www.webmonkey.com . Get PSP7. Learn how to work with it.
Done, you can now make webpages.