Silly connectivity question

[nudd]

Just wonderring, do T1/T3 connections require on-site installation, and for that matter, do they need to be installed in a house/business type establishment? Is it possible to get such a connection in an apartment within an apartment building?

[Daniel]

They require onsite installation, yes. As it's a dedicated copper wire that's run from the pole to your premises.

It's cheaper to go fibre than T1/T3-based connections.

It's possible to get it in an apartment building, but I doubt your landlord will allow you to tear down walls to get a wire to your apartment.

[nudd]

Ie: Both fibre and the copper solutions (T1/T3) would require wall-destroying situations?

[Daniel]

Not always, but it would require you to run a cable from where the cable reaches the premises, to where you need it(i.e your computer, or a switch). The general rule of the thumb is that you'd want this to take the shortest path possible(copper degrades over distance). You can have it lying around underneath the carpet, or stapled to the base of the wall if you like.

Either way, T1/copper-based dedicated lines are too expensive. It's more cost-efficient to go fibre. There's also the other problem of not allowing business dedicated fibre/copper lines to a residential area anyways.

Why not just get business Rogers or Sympatico? The service typically isn't bad.

[niv]

A T1 for home use is just silly--unless you plan on doing massive amounts of downloading and uploading at all times (capped at the max of 1.5Mbit/s), you should really look into getting regular residential broadband. A T3 is 24 T1s, and a lot more expensive.

[nudd]

Well, it's not necessarily for home use per se, more home business or whatnot. But the insight is appreciated, and I do feel that a business cable line through my local provider would work well for the intended purposes. If I get some business space further on down the line, I'll definitely look into the fibreoptic alternatives.

[Robert]

I'd take a 1.54/1.54 T1 connection over a 8.0/8.0 cable/dsl connection anyday of the week. SLA, low pings, dedicated line, all the reasons to switch to a T1 in a heartbeat. Too bad a T1 still is $600+ in this area (full) and $300+ fractional.

[Daniel]

I'd take a 1.54/1.54 T1 connection over a 8.0/8.0 cable/dsl connection anyday of the week. SLA, low pings, dedicated line, all the reasons to switch to a T1 in a heartbeat. Too bad a T1 still is $600+ in this area (full) and $300+ fractional.

You can get a dedicated DSL line non-PPPoE for the ~$200/300 a month, 6/6. SLA, dedicated line aswell.

[hottweelz]

What about redundancy... I install Circuits for customers and it's always a dual quote.. One Verizon Line in from the 57th St C/O and one Qwest Line in from the 52nd St C/O .... Verizon goes back down to West St and Qwest runs downtown towards the east side under the river to Brooklyn. Two Cisco 1750's Two Power Supplies on two different UPSs.. with a crossover. Turn on RIP and call it a day. $1500 + Labor.

[Robert]

You can get a dedicated DSL line non-PPPoE for the ~$200/300 a month, 6/6. SLA, dedicated line aswell.

Certainaly not in my area. My home is wired with Fiber Optics by Bellsouth. We have no copper lines.

[niv]

T1/T3 for home use is incredibly unpractical. The pings are super low yes, but so are pings with fiber (same range) and DSL/cable (slightly higher ping, and you will have to shell more for service guarantees). Yes you can game and download at the same time, but having it around 24/7 just doesn't seem practical unless your home is a maze of computers.

A T1 is suitable for a LAN cafe of maybe 20-30 computers being used at the same time. It's not practical for maybe 3 or 4 lightly used machines.

[Robert]

T1/T3 for home use is incredibly unpractical. The pings are super low yes, but so are pings with fiber (same range) and DSL/cable (slightly higher ping, and you will have to shell more for service guarantees). Yes you can game and download at the same time, but having it around 24/7 just doesn't seem practical unless your home is a maze of computers.

A T1 is suitable for a LAN cafe of maybe 20-30 computers being used at the same time. It's not practical for maybe 3 or 4 lightly used machines.

I work from home. I can't get a business dsl/cable line that has a somewhat SLA because I live in a residential area. But I could get a T1 with the SLA. When the Internet is down, I don't make money. I must have the Internet.