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Dusty
July 16th, 2001, 02:33
I'm working on a new FWP script and I'd like your input as to what kind of features you'd like to see. I've incorporated virtually everything I've ever seen in a commercial FWP script into it, plus some things I've never seen before. The features it currently has are:



Self-installing - it creates it own files and directories, it configures itself, virtually the only thing you have to do is click "go"

Template based - all of the script's output is controlled by editable template files so every detail is customizable.

Multi-language support - by simply selecting their preferred language from a menu on the home page, each user may build and maintain their websites in their language. It comes with English, German, French, and Spanish by default but additional LangPaks can be downloaded and imported through the admin to support more.

Windows-like basic interface - that is, it uses multiple tables which represent windows with icons and menus, rather than the "file manager" look of most FWP scripts.

Members are treated like complete morons :) - no previous knowledge is taken for granted, everything is painfully obvious as to how it works, and all is carefully explained. Everything that could cause confusion is hidden from the user and the script puts up an easier to the eyes interface to it (for example, paths: "/users/username/directory/file.html" becomes "My Website: Folder: File (Webpage)")

A very easy WYSIWYG webpage builder is included that hides all HTML from the member, though it does offer the ability to insert raw HTML so things like remotely hosted counters and trackers can be used.

It also offers an online image creator where you can draw new images online and edit existing ones (its difficult to make anything complex, beyond simple line drawings its virtually useless, but still, it has an online image creator).

It features it own "programming language" (called SSIP, Simplified Secured Interface to Perl). It's been designed specifically to be incapable of creating any security breech. It's nearly plain English and users should be able to pick it up readily, even if they are complete morons. Here's an example of a counter script written in SSIP:
read from counter file.text
remember total is line 1
finished reading
add 1 to total
save to counter file.text
insert total
finished saving
show totalIt offers a point-and-click SSIP builder as well so users won't have to remember the few dozen commands it offers. Apart from scripts, SSIP includes can also be used in place of SSI.

It has a file uploader that can upload three files at a time in either ASCII or binary mode (it explains to the user which mode to use for which types of file). It also has a file retriever for getting files off another website (so if the user is moving from one FWP to yours, they don't have to download and upload all of their files again)

It simplifies all links eliminating the need for the user to actually know what his or her URL is. In the webpage builder, to make a link a window very similar in appearance to "Save As..." pops up where the user just navigates their site until they find the file they want to link to and then all they have to do is click it to create the link. It explains how to link when building files offline and uploading them.

It offers two backup method to the user: Full and incremental (it doesn't use the file's actual archive bit, it creates its own "backup bit"). It saves it as a TAR (it doesn't tell the user that, but that's what it is) and allows the user to download it to "a safe place".

It offers virtually every type of ads in use today. You can have forced headers, footers, user-placable banners, popups, popunders, frames, exit popups, "commercials", etc. It also calculates how many ad impressions a user gets and, if you allow it, will turn off the ads on individual user accounts for the remainder of the month once they reach a given number.

You can regulate how much disk space each member gets individually, what each member's file size limit is, and how much bandwidth each member can use in a day. You can also forbid hotlinking images or any other non-webpage files from other domains.

It offers members username.yourdomain.com and/or yourdomain.com/users/username (your choice).



I'm probably skipping something, but this covers its highlights. As you can see I'm trying to become the most featured FWP script there is and I'm trying to really compete with all others out there, I'll be selling it for under $40. Again, any ideas you have or features you like to see, no matter how insane, I want to hear them. I'm particularly interested in what kind of admin options you'd want to have were you the admin of an FWP running this script, or any FWP for that matter. A free copy may be given to those who have the best ideas for new and never- or seldom-before-seen features.

Thank you in advance for any help you might offer, sorry if there were any spelling or grammatical errors above, I didn't proof-read it.

surfichris
July 16th, 2001, 03:30
;) sound great, i will buy this script when its released , i like the idea of all the features but you may want to include hosted counters, message boards, guestbooks, form mail

Then this will beat many other hosting scripts

bigperm
July 16th, 2001, 06:58
This will be the equivalent of taking a ---- on homefree. It looks amazing. Hosted counters, guestbooks and wwwboards would also be a plus.

40$? You could charge a lot more than that for it, but I think it's good that you are making it availible for people who don't have the cash to spend 100+ to buy a script to start a FWH.

All I can say is... wow...

Ted S
July 16th, 2001, 08:08
Your script sounds good indeed but there are a few thing syou may want to ake into account. First off, how many users will this system handle on a dedicated system? a sharred system? If you're calculating ads every 5 minutes that's a lot of server load...

Also, you may wnt to add in some sort of bandwidth limit for accounts.

What about taking a popular GPL forum and modifying it so each user has a deceent forum and not just wwwboard.

Some simple features you can't forget are free user counters, ebay tools(???), search engine submision, meta tag generator and of course a tutorial.

Prehaps most imporant of all is the help documentations both for the script owner and for the regular "stupid" user.

If you really do manage to make the script you seem to be talking about then I suggest you charge a lot more than $40. Even if you're not in this for the money, do ti for the users. Poeple who can't afford 200, 300, 500 or so dollars for a hosting script msot likely cant afford a deceent server or bandwidth connection to even make a good host. Save the end users the pain of dealing with dsl hosted fwp, make a few bucks for all your effort because selling a script takes a ton of time (trust me, 3 years as tech support for solution scripts teaches you a thing or two).

Good luck to ya.

<|R0cKm@nX|>
July 16th, 2001, 09:58
maybe allow users to install scripts and allow them to chomd scripts and view scripts and folder permissions from the web based control panel? :rolleyes:

gyrbo
July 16th, 2001, 11:37
:eek: :eek: :eek: Or you are a crazzy nuhead that still believes in world pease, or you are joking :eek: :eek: :eek:
That script for 40$? Is that a month? Wow.

akersche
July 16th, 2001, 13:46
own easy script language...nice
BUT wouldn't it be a better idea to offer already tested scripts.
like counter, board, guestbook, form
and offer code to add that...

Dusty
July 16th, 2001, 17:43
hosted counters, message boards, guestbooks, form mailThe counter and guestbook could easily be written in SSIP, so could the message board but it would be a bit of a challenge. I could offer several pre-made SSIP programs, those included, to the users. SSIP can't send email, though, I thought that to be too risky. Maybe I could work out some sort of script authorization processes where unsigned SSIP scripts are more limited than signed SSIP scripts, signed scripts having access to potentially dangerous things like sendmail.


First off, how many users will this system handle on a dedicated system? a [shared] system? If you're calculating ads every 5 minutes that's a lot of server load... Yeah, right now there's just my one test account, I'll have to figure out how much it can handle with thousands.


lso, you may [want] to add in some sort of bandwidth limit for accounts.I mentioned that, didn't I? You can limit user bandwidth.


What about taking a popular GPL forum and modifying it so each user has a [decent] forum and not just wwwboardI'm torn between whether to offer script collections or just let SSIP stand on its own. What kind of forum would you like (could it at all possibly be re-written in SSIP, without loosing too much)?


countersCan easily be done in SSIP.


ebay toolsWhat do you mean, exactly?


search engine submisionThat's a good idea.


meta tag generatorPart of the webpage builder.


I suggest you charge a lot more than $40I've never charged anymore than $40 for anything, but you make a good point. What would you charge? I would definitely want to charge much less than any other comparable or nearly comparable script. Would $100 be enough, or would you suggest even more than that?


maybe allow users to install scripts and allow them to [CHMOD] scripts and view scripts and folder permissions from the web based control panelIt only allows SSIP scripts, as with them security can be assured. SSIP scripts don't need to be CHMODed, they can be viewed and edited online.


[Are] you are a [crazy] [nuthead] that still believes in world [peace]A crazy nuthead that still believes in world peace? I can honestly say I've never been accused of that.


That script for 40$? Is that a month?No, one-time charge, although from Ted's comments I'm thinking of charging more. Solution Scripts charges $300 for HomeFree, I want to at most charge half that.

Any more ideas? Anything at all?

bigperm
July 17th, 2001, 07:57
It's too bad there isn't a very good MB that sits equally between something like iB or phpBB and wwwboard. There is no good middle ground.

That SSIP thing looks good and all... but you have to be serious and realize that many people will not know enough about coding to even code in that. Already built scripts that can be added by point and click would be the best.

iwod
July 17th, 2001, 08:07
how about a pay as you go features for bandwidth??
Like a user get 10Gb of bandwidth for the whole year. They can use it at any time. so, say he use 600mb this month he will be left with 9.4Gb, then may be a sudden increase in vistor and used up 3 Gb another month... after they used up their bandwith they will have to pay for more??