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AlabamaMan
July 16th, 2001, 05:53
Heat.net = a major gaming community has finally went out of business. I mean, its a really huge gaming community.

LastActionHero
July 16th, 2001, 07:10
That is sad news


After years of great on-line gaming, it is time to say good-bye. It is a sad occasion for all of us. We had as much fun building HEAT as you had playing games on HEAT. We would like to thank all of our members for participating in a truly great gaming community. But we don’t want you to feel left out in the cold. We at Sega are still committed to delivering the best gaming experience, and we encourage you to check out some of our other great sites


Anyways it was long know that sega is really struggling and they had to do away their dreamcast business. Expect more cut's here and there from Sega. Now they have changed their business model to developing software for gaming consoles.

Ted S
July 16th, 2001, 07:11
Thats what happens when you have millions of users recieving tons of free services, using several servers and terrabytes of bandwidth with only a few banners to make income....

Companies can't last forever on nothing.

roblev
July 16th, 2001, 10:25
Well, thats life. Too many free services which will go down in time. If there were more free services they wouldn't go down and be as slow, like f2s has been experiencing in the past few weeks. I am so tired of finding a host to suit my program. Even if it is illegal (in the TOS) for me to put up a server on my internet connection, I will because I can be banner free and have ANY service I would want to install on my server. I think that is what is going to happen soon enough.

GrassHopper
July 16th, 2001, 11:19
Everybody can run a web server on their machine..
If you havent got a static ip, you'll download DYNIP so you'll have a subdomain like myname.dynip.com .. If you dont like dynip.com domain you'll forward myname---------- to myname.dynip.com
Here are the programs which a person will need!
As web server:
1. Apache 1.3.20(%60 of the world use it)(www.apache.org)
2. Sambar (good but dont have good options like apache)(www.sambar.com)

Perl:
1. Go n download latest version of perl from its website(www.perl.com)
Some people say that activeperl is really good but i dont know it's download address

PHP4
1. the same reason with perl(www.php.net)

MySQL for win
1. MySQL for windows (it has mysqladmin and mysqladmin has c00l interface) (url= search it :p)

ASP
1. asp s*cks :p

FTP server:
1. Serv-U
2. G6 -> c00l

Everybody can run a web server and hosting(hosting is for experts :p)

roblev
July 16th, 2001, 11:21
I would offer hosting at my house but only one problem, I still need the bandwidth for playing half-life!

AndyW
July 16th, 2001, 11:25
I was thinking of setting up a server with a cable line.... Is it good? I am paying quite some money for the server right now :mad:

roblev
July 16th, 2001, 11:26
i am going to! cable is good for us guys. for a simple site 5000 user/day, GREAT!

AndyW
July 16th, 2001, 11:29
How about for a adfree hosting thing?

roblev
July 16th, 2001, 11:30
i would limit webspace to 20mb and to 500 users, and see how things go.

AndyW
July 16th, 2001, 12:04
:( i dont think it will work on a cable line then :( im planning to get 1000s and 1000s of members to compete with geocities :)

roblev
July 16th, 2001, 12:05
have a fun time

Benjermin
July 16th, 2001, 21:43
And yesterday NBCI shut down their webmosting services. :P

Toefur
July 16th, 2001, 23:26
I'm gonna whip out my old 286, hook it up to my 56k connection; and have a go at outdoing geocities. :)

Big Ass Robot
July 17th, 2001, 01:30
Originally posted by GrassHopper
Everybody can run a web server on their machine..




Are there any online tutorials or sites on how to run your own web server? This sounds very interesting..

Ted S
July 17th, 2001, 02:25
ROFL...

Do you guys seriously think you can/ should/ would run a free web service off your generic cable/ dsl account? At most cable gets about 45kbps upstream. Most cable providers have a few hours of downtiem a week, and almost none let normal accounts host serverts.

Even if your cable provider lets you run a server, it is going to go offline quite oftne, it subject to power problems, your gamign needs or someone kicking a cord. If you manage to get around all that, 40kbps still won't support a site with 25,000 hits a month at a deceent speed but if you like .05kbps a second, well, enjoy.

AlabamaMan
July 17th, 2001, 02:38
You guys should read on this forum more often. The cable hosts keep popping up then die in 3 days :) Why bother? I never trust Cable/DSl hosts (There are ways to find out). To run a webhosting service, you must have multi processors computers, scsi hard drives not just some crap gaming computers. If you are going to do it anyway, why dont you get Residential t1, my ISP offers Residential t1 for only $259/month, you get 1500k download/1500k upload!

Big Ass Robot
July 17th, 2001, 02:57
I just want to run my small personal site on my own server so I dont have to deal with free webspace places (I dont wanna run a webhosting service- thats nuts!). Is that possible?

roblev
July 17th, 2001, 09:32
Originally posted by Big --- Robot
I just want to run my small personal site on my own server so I dont have to deal with free webspace places (I dont wanna run a webhosting service- thats nuts!). Is that possible?

YES! My answer is YES! Run your own personal site! YES!

zz4
July 17th, 2001, 11:19
I'm tired and depressed at the end of the free internet.I'm tired of free webhosts that come and go like insects.I'm now getting tired of economy paid hosts that disappear with your money.


A question? I'm not very bright.I'm even on a webtv unit now. --- but my brain absorbs a little more all the time.(its capacity unknown)

I have a little pile of normal computers I've been buying at 'clearance prices' the last several years.I never hardly get to use them if I ever did.

An AST with a 586/75 AMD chip.A Packard-Bell 120mhz pentium..these with windows 95.(I've refused to spend a penny on these) Next..a Packard-Bell 200mhz pentium and a Packard-Bell 266mhz cyrix.Both Windows 98. Next a Compaq 400mhz and another Compaq 475 mhz. Next an Emachines 600mhz. Last one a Compaq 788mhz I think it is.


I'm not rich but I'd go out today and look for another 'clearance' computer if I had to.Probably places are dumping under-1ghz units for almost nothing now.


With this collection of un-used stuff none can be turned the other way and actually become a webserver for my websites??? If so are there any simple tutorials how? Host my websites on my computer? Open up access to your computer to the public? Security issues?


If possible how much education is needed? About all I know is playing with windows 98 (whats the sense of ME) and playing with a few perl scripts.I'm no computer language wiz.



So excuse me if this is off-topic but I wonder if many would like to know if their home pc could become a location for their websites vs. paying for hosting elsewhere.(considering the status of free hosts)




email: zz4aNO$PAM@yahoo.com (remove NO$PAM)

zz4
July 17th, 2001, 11:24
ps..I'm not referring to being a webhosting service. Just a one person operation. Me/Myself/I.

roblev
July 17th, 2001, 11:24
My computer could become a free host if i wanted it to be. Hell, i have 5 486es around the house. I would just have to upgrade the RAM, the HD side, and I would be all set.

gyrbo
July 17th, 2001, 14:11
Hosting your own site is pretty easy. I host my own private test server on my cable. I use dynu for my dunamic IP, Apache for the server, PHP and Perl for scripting, And a floppy drive for file upload.

gyrbo
July 17th, 2001, 14:11
A little off-topic: Anybody knows a telnet server that will run on win98?

roblev
July 18th, 2001, 14:05
Try going to tucows.com and searching for one. My friend has one and it kicks --- for freeware!

Psychic_313
July 18th, 2001, 15:14
If you can't be bothered to set up Apache right (I know I can't), try Xitami from http://www.imatix.com
It's smallish, runs in a DOS box with web-based admin (go to 127.0.0.1/admin and type the user name and password you used when installing), and runs on Windows and Unix (including Linux). It can definitely do SSI and CGI, and I think it can do stuff like Java servlets too if you can be bothered to find out how. As an added bonus, it has a built-in ftp server.