View Full Version : Is Servus going under??
Magic2K2
July 19th, 2001, 08:55
This thread worries me:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=13986&highlight=servus
Is Servus going to be lacking stability or is the changeover going to be smooth?
stu
July 19th, 2001, 09:26
geez, they're a lot smaller and newer than I thought they were.
Michael-MS
July 19th, 2001, 10:06
It would depend on which host buys them, I guess. :confused:
Technics
July 19th, 2001, 11:33
Guess he realised he wasnt really cut out for this business.
Michael-MS
July 19th, 2001, 11:55
Technics,
The link in your signature doesn't work, is there a new link or is the server down?
<< referring to: http://forums.webhostdir.com >>
gyrbo
July 19th, 2001, 14:17
Darn, I guess the new ower isn't gonna give me free webspace:(. Well, I'll have to go with someonels
Technics
July 19th, 2001, 14:46
The entire site went weird earlier they were making some updates to the site. Works ok now though ive just been on my spam swatting session.
Cael
July 20th, 2001, 04:58
Well... that's a thread I posted long ago. I am not selling it now or maybe never will be. The main reason that we are small, is because I don't want it to be big since the beginning. I just try to overcome my costs and get experiences within this period. So that I can do a better job in the future with 100% of my concentration. However, current customers are happy with me and the leaving rate is very low. Mostly none for most of the months. I am still doing my job very well currently.
I will be fully boosting my business after my exams over. It's about end of November.
gyrbo:
Not to worry about anything. Just let me know when you are ready. That's my offer and it will always be.
Magic2K2
July 20th, 2001, 06:38
Donovan,
So what is the plan for the next couple of months? Who will be running it and what changes will we see? I am deciding between you and ValuableHost and I just want to make sure I don't lose my money.
Cael
July 20th, 2001, 09:46
I am planning to get a new server right now. I will still be running the business myself. However, maybe with assistance of my friends in providing support etc. :)
Technics
July 20th, 2001, 10:41
a second server with 30 customers? ummm...
Cael
July 20th, 2001, 10:52
Nope. Just moving to a better server.
Technics
July 20th, 2001, 12:32
What do you call a better server?
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 02:20
Better in hardware specs, with a good back up solution, control panel, and a good connection.
Well, I know Tera-byte.com is very good. But my customers wish for a better control panel, and a good back up solution. I guess you know about the incident which hit me sometimes ago. The back-ups I did, aren't working and I had been having a hard time to re-create all the accounts and apologize to every customer. That's bad...
Greatgraddage
July 21st, 2001, 06:28
When are you moving then? I am assume it is to a linux box rather that a raq....
Technics
July 21st, 2001, 06:31
The cobalt Control panel is intended to be simple. I've found that if you over load your control panel with pointless features your support requests go up.
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 07:01
Indeed. But simple features in the control panel isn't attractive enough. :)
By the way, anyone would like to take over my Raq3? :p
Technics
July 21st, 2001, 07:18
How much RAM does it have?
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 12:02
64mb RAM. With 43 IPs. MySQL , php, zend optimizer etc...
Technics
July 21st, 2001, 12:08
64MB and you was hosting websites on that? that's pitiful.
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 12:21
It might be for you, but not me.
I have over 50 web sites on it, and the server's loads are not busy at all. I don't need that much RAM for now.
But for my upcoming server, it should have at least 128MB Ram.
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 12:23
By the way, I don't think I should reply anymore for this thread. It's going off topic.
meow
July 21st, 2001, 14:37
I just want to say that I like your attitude, Donnovan. And always have. Good luck with the new server. :)
Technics
July 21st, 2001, 15:23
I dont think it is ....
Because if you keep loading your servers with those feeable amounts of ram you are going to go under.
How can you do that to your customers? 50 sites sharing 64mb's ram. My server had 256mb ram in till a few weeks back and i felt guilty having 40 sites sharing that. We now have the maximum you can load into an RAQ3 we have 512mb ram.
Cheap hosts need lots of ram and a big processor to handle the amount of signup's your going to get as you grow. 128mb ram isnt going to cut in the market you are attacking donovan. But good luck anyways.
Chicken
July 21st, 2001, 21:17
Eddie, if it isn't needed, it isn't needed. There is nothing to feel guilty about. "How can you do that to your customers? 50 sites sharing 64mb's ram" - so he should just put in a stick of 256 for the heck of it or because........ ???
You are making it seem as if he said, "No matter how many sites are on the server, and how busy it gets and how high the load, I'm not adding more ram."
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 23:07
Meow:
Thanks :)
Cael
July 21st, 2001, 23:13
Neil:
The new server is up, I will be moving the accounts real soon.
Technics
July 22nd, 2001, 00:25
Chicken,
So your telling me that if you were still in the market for a Virtual host account you'd be happy sharing 64mb ram between 50 sites? What happens if you and three sites start getting lots of hits? the server grinds to a halt and your users get pissed and dont come back.
64 maybe fine if there all low traffic, But over a 24 hour period whilst waiting for a RAM upgrade his users could get very annoyed with him and start slating him on forums like this one.
I maybe should of worded my post better.
Valuablehost
July 22nd, 2001, 04:38
I have to agree with Technics, my server has 256ram and i feel i need more, i will be getting 512ram shortly :), the thing is i have 67 sites on this server with 256ram and its to little, you can never have enough ram. The more ram the merrier and the safer even though my load is usually 0.01 or 0.00.
Regards,
ValuableHost
gyrbo
July 22nd, 2001, 09:42
:rolleyes: I'm getting my computer ugraded, I'll put 1GB of RAM into it, a dual P4 1,4GHz, a 150GB larger RAIDed harddisk, a GeForce 3, and a 21' monitor. You know what I'm gonna do with that machine?
I'm gonna have it on all day without useing it.
This is exactly what you people are doing. Sorry, but why install that much RAM if you only use like 5MB of it????:confused:
Valuablehost
July 22nd, 2001, 10:01
Say you signup a new client who will use alot of server resources, whats the 64ram going to do now?? you need 256 at least, even for backup incase this happens.
Chicken
July 22nd, 2001, 10:46
Originally posted by Valuablehost
I have to agree with Technics, my server has 256ram and i feel i need more, i will be getting 512ram shortly :), the thing is i have 67 sites on this server with 256ram and its to little, you can never have enough ram. The more ram the merrier and the safer even though my load is usually 0.01 or 0.00.
Regards,
ValuableHost
While I agree that having too much ram is never a bad thing, the point is that your specs should match your needs. You guys remind me of the old ladies who go into the computer store and buy the fastest and most expensive computer available to type emails out on.
You feel you need more? What is this? My computers don't magically speak to me through some sort of virtual brainwave communication. You say, "the thing is i have 67 sites on this server with 256ram and its to little..." - I'm just wondering if this statement is based upon fact (you checked the server and noticed that the usage is getting up there), or if you're just picking a number that sounds good?
Like I said, if having too much ram is your only problem then you're doing ok. I'm not saying that, and I'm not arguing that. But to make up an arbitrary number of what you think is acceptable and then chastise a host for using less than that is not exactly warranted.
Would I host my sites on a server with 64MB of ram? Yes, if that's all that was needed. I hosted myself and other sites on a server with 64MB of ram for some time, and upgraded when it wasn't enough.
Seems 256 and 512 are magic numbers here. What if I said that I can't believe you host on anything less than a gig of ram (...like I do blah blah...)? If it sounds like I'm picking on you two, then I aplogize, that isn't the purpose.
Khaoz
July 23rd, 2001, 02:22
gyrbo please tell me where you found a dual p4 motherboard! ;)
gyrbo
July 23rd, 2001, 04:37
In the local computer store. Well, I had a hard time fitting those P4's into it, but it eventually worked. I'm so exited, I should really turn my computer on!:rolleyes:
vSector
July 23rd, 2001, 11:55
Originally posted by Chicken
While I agree that having too much ram is never a bad thing, the point is that your specs should match your needs. You guys remind me of the old ladies who go into the computer store and buy the fastest and most expensive computer available to type emails out on.
Its good business sence to prepare for the future. You can never predict a fluctuation of hits to the server, and that is why you must always have more ram than necessary.
Most ppl expect 100% uptime nowadays and if your server does crash i could see you loosing alot of your customers.
Cael
July 24th, 2001, 05:01
I would like to remain silence. But let me clarify something.
64MB Ram, is already far more than necessary usage for my server.
However, maybe it's a real problem for you guys about my 64MB Ram. But let's get this over. My new server comes with 512MB Ram. That's very far more than enough already.
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