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Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 16:30
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/07/20/hurricane.cure.ap/index.html

Read that! Cool ain't it? We can control weather now. Not a good sign.

meow
July 20th, 2001, 16:46
I can't. :confused:

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 16:47
Just read the article.

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 19:40
scary...


but, if you think about it... it makes sense. as soon as I saw the header, I knew what it was.

pro5ject
July 20th, 2001, 19:42
The company said a granule absorbs 2,000 times its weight in water.

Woah, they could use this in floods :confused:

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 19:50
I think this is a bad idea; Interfering with nature is rarely a good idea.

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 19:50
They could save countless lives.

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 19:53
I talked to my mom about this and she heard it on the news, or something...

to actually stop a hurricane, it would take a fleet of planes, and about a million $$$ to knock out a hurricane.. AND, it might not work...

this makes me feel better... although, I'm not sure why. lol

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 19:57
Better millions of dollars used then billions and billions of damage? Right? We could develop a hundred airship fleet for designed specially for this, or use our recon ships in the airforce. It could turn a hurricane into a tropical depression or storm at least.

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 19:59
for the number of planes you're talking about, it would cost well over $10 billion.

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:02
We could use planes in the Air Force and Reserve. They have Recon Aircraft. And if we do constructure 100 new planes it will be worth it. Remember Hurricane Andrew it caused triple that amount in damage costs.

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 20:08
That article never did really touch on the downsides of that. It says id disolves in salt water. dissolves into what? it could be potentialy toxic. I am going to do some research on this so i can support my argument that this substance, and whole idea is not necessarily good.

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:13
That is a good point. Maybe some testing should be done to make sure it doesn't pollute.

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 20:17
I think quite a bit more testing will take place. if that guy gets subsidised

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:19
Despite being a pro-Bush supporter and supporting Alaskan Oil Drilling, I want to make sure this stuff is environmentially safe. Hey, I care about the environment too.

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 20:23
OT- instead of spending money drilling for more oil, i think it would be a better idea to invest in alternate energy sources, or on machines that use alternate energy sources.

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:24
Nuclear Power. That is the best power out there, we need to invest more and build more plants. Great I am becoming a ---- Cheney.

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 20:30
actually.. I'm all for solar power...

once I get a high paying job (bol) my custom-built house will have solar panels covering 90% of my roof.

hehe but, seriously.. solar power is prolly the best way to go, for most areas.

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 20:34
The only problem with nuclear is the waste that is produced, and after 3 mile island, the support has gone down and no new reactors have ben built. On the upside, a new technology for use in reactors has been developed; Instead of rods containing uranium, a specal sphere about the size of a pool ball filled with uranium pellets has been developed. i forget all the pros and cons. ill post the url for the article. also, nuclear reactors wont exactly solve the problem of dwindling petroleum reserves

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:35
I am going to live in front of a Nuclear Power Plant! J/K
:D

Giancarlo
July 20th, 2001, 20:36
Bush and Cheney proposed building more plants. What we need is good waste disposal where we can decommission waste without having harmful affects to the environment. Nuclear Energy imo, will solve everything.

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 20:46
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gayowulf
[B]... and after 3 mile island ...QUOTE]

man... I used to live right outside the danger area of 3 mile island.. actually, outside the high danger area.. still had the alert sirens close enough to hear...

now, I live even closer to another one reactor.. hehe

Dusty
July 20th, 2001, 20:50
Though I disagree with nearly everything Giancarlo says, nuclear power is one thing I'm actually with him on. I don't know why the American public has such an irrational fear of anything nuclear, statistically you're more likely to die from cancer caused by excess peanut butter than from living by or near a nuclear power plant or nuclear waste disposal area... returning to the topic slightly, you're 60,000 times more likely to die in a hurricane than from living next to 100 nuclear power plants. Nuclear is also the most clean and eco-friendly power source there is, right from mining the uranium straight up to its disposal. Nuclear is cheap, too. Though slightly more expensive than coal, it's less expensive per kwh than oil and 1,000 times less than solar (which is a very expensive alternative, at least right now it is, so is wind power. Solar and wind are unpredictable as well, you know exactly what you're going to get from nuclear).

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 20:57
In my opinion most of that is true. Coal also pollutes a lot.


Nuclear is also the most clean and eco-friendly power source there is, right from mining the uranium straight up to its disposal

Although nuclear is very clean and reliable the waste still poses a problem; It is highly radioactive now, and will still be in 200,000 years. Thus disposal poses a problem: The proposed site under Yucca mountain in nevada is no longer big enough to hold it all. Most plants store it in a big concrete warehouse, but at the rate it is produced a better mode of disposal is needed. if an earthquake were to strike near one of these nuclear waste burial sites...

stu
July 20th, 2001, 20:58
I've actually read some stuff as to whether nuclear power is really cost effective or if it's as cheap as it's meant to be. Building a nuclear power plant involves tremendous amounts of energy if you think of how energy is involved in the construction, ie: building materials, construction equipment, labour, distribution or energy, etc. Also considering the costs for the negative effects (disaster costs) of nuclear waste and health care costs, those costs are very high and are very negative. An interesting fact that I read was that throughout the entire life of a nuclear power plant, it generates just enough energy to cover the amount of energy that was put into the construction of the plant in the first place.

Solar power is extremely cost effective and doesn't have negative effects on the environment. It's just a stick with some panels, and if everyone had solar panels attached to their houses, the distributions costs for energy would be a lot cheaper. Also, sunlight is very plentiful.

Just some interesting tidbits...

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 21:06
Solar power would work better if individual homes had their own panels. as a plus, these homes would probably be built to be more energy eficient. Another good energy source is geothermal energy. unfortunately it is only really feasible in areas with lots of hotsprings and stuff

jason
July 20th, 2001, 22:34
i am for alternative fuels, i think they should look into hemp oil for a possible alternate fuel for cars, its a renewable source and very cheap but still illegal in the U.S. (note hemp is not marijuana) i am against the drilling in Alaska as it is just a temporary solution. and not a big fan of nuclear power mainly because the U.S. uses canada as its dumping grounds legally dumping 70% of their toxic waste in canada last year.

and about the hurricane powder, can these planes actually fly in the hurricane force winds?

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 22:41
I believe they would fly above the clouds....

to take out a hurricane, they'd need to spread the stuff in a line from one edge, right through the "eye" and to the other side... at least, that's what they think.... they'll prolly have to cover about 50% of the clouds to take out a hurricane, actually

Gayowulf
July 20th, 2001, 23:01
Hemp oil isnt really feasible yet. its quite expensive, and it isn't really that widely grown. Hemp oil is great for pretty well everything, as are hemp products. i.e rope, paper, clothing... you name it

whatevah
July 20th, 2001, 23:09
ok.. I've got a thread for this... we went off-topic.. hehe

http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=66165