Reseller or Dedicated? (For webhosting service)

[Oni]

Heyas,

It's been my little "goal" for a while to start up a little webhosting service. A webhosting service that only accepts e-gold (As many people look for cheap egold hosts) and is very private to the customers (As in they don't need to give sensitive information)

I also use only egold btw...Which I know is a bit of a problem to start with--

I'd like to have the webhosting pay for itself, as well as maybe a little profit for myself ;) But the problem is that there are cheap webhosts out there that are on dedicated servers, so, they are cheaper. If I buy a reseller account the profits that I may make go the the person that I bought it from, as well as a bit for me...

Well, I'm asking: Is it possible to find customers if you have a webhosting service that is on a reseller account?

I currently do not have the funds for a dedicated server in my egold, as I'm earning all of my egold's profits w/o putting in my own money (Going pretty good so far...)

I have found, I think a cheap reseller that accepts egold. Saw a banner ad for it somewhere--

http://hosting.vn-sg.com/reseller.php

So, would it be possible to find a customer base while using those reseller packages??

Also, for example-- If it costs $5 to get that hosting for a client then I would charge them something like $6? Not sure about the profit percentage...But I'm not exactly going for TOO much profit, just for the fun of it :P

Thanks!!

[Oni]

I've recently heard that VPS would work likie a cheap type of dedicated server...I don't think that the hosting being VPS is actually needed as I only plan to host "Normal" web hosting (PHP, MySql...) Something like... each client gets CPanel and I get a Reseller CPanel...(Which I think is customary now but, still...)

Just another idea to throw out, I'm not against VPS but I think it might be a waste, the most important thing while selling, I think, is bandwith...Many sites don't use too much file space at all unless they have a big database or host files on the server...

[James]

I'd like to have the webhosting pay for itself, as well as maybe a little profit for myself ;)

Then you must not start from a dedicated server. VPS. A good VPS is far better off than a cheap (100 USD and below) Celeron / Pentium 4 dedicated


Well, I'm asking: Is it possible to find customers if you have a webhosting service that is on a reseller account?

Plenty do it. Some do it well.

[Oni]

Well if you're suggesting VPS which I think that you mean...Do you think that I could find a good one with egold? I think that the plans on the site that I posted the link to, the reseller plans, are pretty cheap...I found it out of pure luck really, not sure if I can find a good VPS and pay with egold...

I think, that I could start with a small reseller package, and upgrade as much as necessary...If page loads take too long, then switch to a VPS

If I'm going to use reseller, then can someone tell me whats the average pricing? Like what percent of the client's bill is my profit, which part goes to my webhost?

Does someone know a good tutorial to startup webhosting? Like the legal contract that the user has to accept and everything--I live in Turkey btw...

Thanks for the help!!

Edit: I know php + mysql somewhat, I'd plan on making all of the host billing tracking and whatnot scripts by myself... I'm not so good at security php wise but...I think I think I can do it... Whattchas think? Maybe there is another script that some hosts use?

[utcrazy]

I'd reccomend starting wiith a reseller, I did then moved up to a Dual P4 in time. It all depends on your needs.

[ManXP]

My advice:

Start with reseller account if you don't jave much experience in webhosting business. Why? You will never need to worry about server management 24 hours per day, etc., because experienced team will do it for you.

For example, we have a reseller, who pays over $1000 per month (yeah, I really mean over $1000) for all his accounts (located on different servers). It's because he knows his hosting will be absolutely worry-free, as our staff makes all the dirty work for him and his task is to collect money from his customers ;)

[Dub]

My advice:

Start with reseller account if you don't jave much experience in webhosting business. Why? You will never need to worry about server management 24 hours per day, etc., because experienced team will do it for you.

For example, we have a reseller, who pays over $1000 per month (yeah, I really mean over $1000) for all his accounts (located on different servers). It's because he knows his hosting will be absolutely worry-free, as our staff makes all the dirty work for him and his task is to collect money from his customers ;)


Agreed.

VPS tend to be harder than dedicated server to run because of the fact it is also on a server with 5 other people.. So if one of those other people abuses his VPS yours gets effected as well. That is the only disadvantage with VPS. Also the RAM Limitation and CPU Limitation but that is the main reason. People who are new to the SSH/Linux/Hosting world will find it really hard running a VPS. Unless you are willing to pay for management. Which will cost alot.

eRudNet.

[James]

There are excellent managed reasonable priced VPS solutions around for sure. I suggest you get a managed VPS or dedicated - when are you ever going to learn with a WHM reseller account?

My list of reliable VPS solutions.
http://www.servint.com
http://www.liquidweb.com
http://www.solarvps.com
http://www.a2b2.com
http://www.dehe.com
http://www.powervps


So if one of those other people abuses his VPS yours gets effected as well. That is the only disadvantage with VPS.

VPS' are isolated from other VPS on the host system, with allocated(guaranteed) CPU and RAM. VPS on the server can't take another down if even of it is using all of its own allocated resources. Your statement here is completely false.


Also the RAM Limitation and CPU Limitation but that is the main reason.

Many providers offer "burst" which means you can use more than your allocation of a certain amount of CPU from the entire pool that all the VPS on the system use. VPS' can even outperform dedicated in certain benchmarking.

There are a few little downsides to VPS technology in terms of software but all in all it is a real, good option.

[Craig]

Hi

Your best bet is to start with a reseller account, once you build your client database then move up to a VPS or even a dedicated, dont rush, take your time then you will make it :-)

Goodluck.

[uploadfront]

Then you must not start from a dedicated server. VPS. A good VPS is far better off than a cheap (100 USD and below) Celeron / Pentium 4 dedicated



Plenty do it. Some do it well.


don't think so with a vps you are guaranteed maybe 200mhz and 192mb ram, with a dedicated even if it is celeron you get the full 2ghz and 512mb ram

[Dub]

There are excellent managed reasonable priced VPS solutions around for sure. I suggest you get a managed VPS or dedicated - when are you ever going to learn with a WHM reseller account?

My list of reliable VPS solutions.
http://www.servint.com
http://www.liquidweb.com
http://www.solarvps.com
http://www.a2b2.com
http://www.dehe.com
http://www.powervps



VPS' are isolated from other VPS on the host system, with allocated(guaranteed) CPU and RAM. VPS on the server can't take another down if even of it is using all of its own allocated resources. Your statement here is completely false.



Many providers offer "burst" which means you can use more than your allocation of a certain amount of CPU from the entire pool that all the VPS on the system use. VPS' can even outperform dedicated in certain benchmarking.

There are a few little downsides to VPS technology in terms of software but all in all it is a real, good option.

Actually your statement is false. The main server is effected by all VPS on the server. It may be guarenteed but that does not mean that is the other people is using 98% of his CPU and 100% of his RAM it won't affect you as it will greatly. The VPS Technology is still in its early stages. With only about 1-2 years behind its back it is still quiet unstable.

I still suggest reseller for an unexperienced person entering the hosting world.

eRudNet

[James]

There's nothing I wrote in the post about VPS which is false.

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