GeoCities

[TJGuitar85]

It wont let me login to the ftp. I put in username then when it asks for password it just stops there...but the website still works...is anyone else experiencing problems?

TJ

[bpg_snoopdogg]

Ive had this problem too along with my friend. We both have sites on geocities and FTP is not working... Probably Temporary!

[Musicollector]

Hi,

It has to be a temporary problem. Geocities is THE best provider out there - hands down! It could be a specific problem with only your site as all my GC sites work. Have you contacted them?

Harry

[niv]

Originally posted by Musicollector
...Geocities is THE best provider out there - hands down!...

ROFLMFAOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[WorldWarGeneral]

LOL, he must have been kidding... ;)

[LastActionHero]

Yeah :D

[brettmeyers]

what is your definition of best? Because geocities is just like a stepping stone towards other hosts.

[TJGuitar85]

well its ad isnt too bad, its FTP's fast. its hardly ever down. If GC hjust gave more space it could be one of the best.

TJ

[Musicollector]

Laugh all you want. I have tried at least 20 other providers and I KNOW the difference. I am not here to engage in an argument. In terms of speed, reliability, and service, it is the best. I have been using multiple GC sites since October 1997. So, I know for fact as I can compare.

Right on, TJ. That's what I will continue to believe and say.

Geocities is THE best site on the Web today - bar none! I have had problems with other arrogant, contemptuous providers, who treat their users like cattle, just because they are not paying anything for the service, some of them deleting sites without notice, or even on initial upload:( But just like a gas station that rips you off, it happens only once - then, one moves on. I have all my sites backed up, so it's no skin off my nose if my sites get deleted. No loss of mine, you see. There used to be a time when RealAudio files were allowed, though MP3s were (rightfully) not. But now, the post-Napster paranoia among providers has gotten to ludicrous proportions. Some of them think all users are stupid enough not to see the charade of offering 100 MB or "unlimited" space and restricting individual file size to some ridiculous proportions, but when you see through all that mumbo jumbo sales pitch, the space offered is meaningless! How many HTML, JPG, or TXT files can one use to use up this space?!

I have been with Geocities since 1997 and I think it is unparalleled for their superb service, reliability and good will. I started with Angelfire and Fortunecity at the same time, but both of them are disappointing, to put it mildly.

Enough said.
Me

[WorldWarGeneral]

We didn't mean anything personal towards you. It's just that Geocities, in terms of services, (CGI, PHP, mysql, etc.) is hardly the best free host out there.

[TJGuitar85]

CGI etc is something that if you want you should pay for it, because most likely its not gonna work well on a fwp. (ie Tripod,F2s) GeoCities is one of the best for PERSONAL websites.

TJ

[Musicollector]

Thanks for the responses. WorldWarGeneral, no offense was intended or taken:)

And that was only my opinion, anyway. Aren't they all opinions? I can now see where you're coming from as I have not used their CGI or PHP service. I guess my vision was rather focussed more on the basic service rather than the extras. As TJ said, I was speaking of only a basic website without the frills.

In my experience, I have had considerable luck with GC. Most of my sites have to do with RealAudio files of music. Many providers simply would not allow RM files. Some others simply deleted my Indian music RM files (I am hoping to find a few providers in India, or elsewhere, as the law is applied TOO stringently only in North America) citing sites have to be in English. I have had all the above files at GC since 1997 and not only have they flourished there, but I have never had problems with the sites or the files or FTP. I can even access their FTP ports from behind a firewall while Fortunecity and Angelfire crapped out on me.

I appreciate the fact that different folks would have different experiences with GC, and I respect and recognize that fact.

Harry

[BC]

Well, I think we are back to the same old argument of "What does best mean?" And what is more important? Stability, reliabilty and speed or features? I wish there was a free webhost that had both, but sadly, I don't believe there is one at this time. (and please, do not say F2's because for quite some time, they have had problems with reliability and speed overall--when they get that fixed, they will be great) I do wish Geocities had more features, but I can live with that. They ARE the best as far as reliability, speed and stability go--Their support is pathetic, but I guess if you don't have any problems, who cares, right? ;) And again, the people viewing your site, don't care about features--they care about accessing your information quickly and painlessly. But again, I suppose it is all relative depending on what you want to offer.

Back to the problem at hand..I haven't had any problems with FTP on Geocities recently...must have been temporary!

[Musicollector]

Pardon me, but what does the acronym F2 refer to?;-) I assume it is a web hoster...?

For support, I have always depended on their resident Community Leaders or "experts". I have always been able to get fast answers.

I am able to get to all of my Geocities site, no problem.

[niv]

pay hosting is always better ;)

[BC]

F2's is the web host "Freedom To Surf." ;)

And I would say that paid hosting "usually" is better, depending on what you want to do. ;)

[niv]

there's 0.2 MB with domainbox.de :p

[LastActionHero]

for me CGI and PHP are the basic and I take hosting HTML and images for granted. They are like they should be there.

[Musicollector]

Originally posted by BC
F2's is the web host "Freedom To Surf." ;)

And I would say that paid hosting "usually" is better, depending on what you want to do. ;)

I get it:) Yep. Money talks. In terms of free service, one gets what one pays for - in many cases, nothing!


Originally posted by lastactionhero
for me CGI and PHP are the basic and I take hosting HTML and images for granted. They are like they should be there.

And, yes, I have wanted to get into CGI scripting, but as this is only a hobby, I have not had the time to indulge in it. I really want to use check boxes so people can select the songs they want to hear.

Harry
http://dial.to/kerala

[syd]

Sure a lot of free hosts offer great things, but where will they be in 6 months? I don't care about PHP, CGI, SSI, MYSQL, yadda, and neither does 95% of webmasters. One thing people DO want, is something that won't disappear in 6 months. I think Geocities will be around for a looong time.

[niv]

that's the problem. 95% of those looking for free webspace (i wouldn't call them webmasters because they haven't mastered the basics if they're using a drag-n-drop editor or templates) don't need anything other than space, and httpd. ever since geocites became part of yahoo, their growth has been exponential. that gives us hosts (yes, i am becoming a host soon, give or take a month or two :p) an unfair disadvantage

[Musicollector]

Originally posted by syd
Sure a lot of free hosts offer great things, but where will they be in 6 months? I don't care about PHP, CGI, SSI, MYSQL, yadda, and neither does 95% of webmasters. One thing people DO want, is something that won't disappear in 6 months. I think Geocities will be around for a looong time.

You're absolutely right. One of the few hosts who allowed CGI, virtualave.com has turned to paid hosting as they could not last remaining free. What good is it if they offer you 15 different scripting features if they fold in 6 months? It is a huge annoyance for those of use who have to move elaborate, huge websites.

[niv]

they weren't bad at first. you're forgetting why they were forced to go to pay hosting. remember when ads were actually worth something? banner ads cannot provide the funds to support a host like virtualave, and it's not the features. it's the revenue. it is more tangible nowadays to provide free hosting as one of the plans along with the normal pay hosting.

[BC]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun
that's the problem. 95% of those looking for free webspace (i wouldn't call them webmasters because they haven't mastered the basics if they're using a drag-n-drop editor or templates) don't need anything other than space, and httpd. ever since geocites became part of yahoo, their growth has been exponential. that gives us hosts (yes, i am becoming a host soon, give or take a month or two :p) an unfair disadvantage

Um..just because one uses a drag and drop editor doesn't mean they are not a webmaster....Some of the best sites out there are done with drag and drop...

;)

[Docevl]

Hayama-kun,
You are becoming a host? Have you decided what you are going to offer?

[niv]

Originally posted by BC


Um..just because one uses a drag and drop editor doesn't mean they are not a webmaster....Some of the best sites out there are done with drag and drop...

;)

i mean ONLY drag and drop, and absolutely no know-how of how to go about a simple markup language. :p


i might be offering this:

1 MB webspace
75 MB transfer/mo.
Telnet/SSH access
PHP 4.0.6
CGI (Perl 5.0.0.6, PHP 4.0.6)
SSI
mySQL (counts as part of your webspace, so dont think about a BB ;))
~user directory
One POP3 email account
(There is going to be a very tough AUP so any people violating the rules will automatically be kicked off)

this is for serious people who have better things to do than uploading music files warez, or using up system resources for no reason.

[ozefrog]

you should really define a webmaster. ok i will

SOMEONE WHO MAINTAINS A SITE

webmasters dont 'have' to know how to code in html. its ok to use drag n drop editors, but sorry to the community of homestead users, but u's are very lazy!.

it may be more convenient and faster but 85% of homestead sites are not what you could call of 'an eye catching standard'.

with such editors such as the homestead one, the graphics are there for you.

where as you average joe designer would use an editor such as dreamweaver, homesite or frontpage to make there site. they are semi lazy. i am one of these people, (hey i cant help if im lazy) but i make an effort to design my own site graphics. (these programs listed allow you to implement your own html easily)

then you have the hardcore html'ers that use such editors such as hotdog or acehtml. i dont see the point in spending hours and hours coding a site in your own html, this can be done for you with a WYSIWYG editor.

My arument is its not about the coding issue, its about the way your site is presented with graphics!

sorry if i got off the track a little :-)

[TJGuitar85]

I use netscape composer. Is there a better free one?

TJ

[DroidCollector]

this is just my opinion,but I wouldn't host my site with geocites..I don't care how long there gonna be around.You do know that they'll axe your site at any time for any reason right?That's what they did to mine and I never did get an explanation as to why they deleted it.After that I moved on to Lunarpages.com.I've had my site there for about 2 months now.The servers are fast,they provide all the tools that I need,which isn't much,and I've never had any log in problems ever.As for coding,I never have used any programs to aid me.I always use good ol notepad.Yeah it takes a while,but I need the practice...:)

[niv]

Originally posted by TJGuitar85
I use netscape composer. Is there a better free one?

TJ

notepad :rolleyes:

[TJGuitar85]

Notepad's easy to edit with but it sure as hell isn't too create.


GeoCities doesnt delete accounts for no reason. Ive had inactive accounts for years hat havent even been deleted.

TJ

[Musicollector]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun


notepad :rolleyes:

Hahaha! I used Notepad...and later on, CuteHTML for the past 5 years as I love to work in HTML. I used Netscape Composer a few times and found out that it mangles up the META tags. In my eyes, though I don't mind their browser (IE is faster) and mail client, I despise Composer:(

Go to http://www.evrsoft.com/ for a fabulous editor that is FREE, contains Java applets, doesn't mess up yout tags...wow! And all this for free?! CuteHTML was great, but since I found 1stPage by Evrsoft, there's no going back. I threw away FrontPage, Homesite, etc. However, I have DreamWeaver which I am starting to learn.

One word of caution before you download it. You cannot edit WYSIWYG in 1stPage. You need to work in HTML.

[Musicollector]

Originally posted by DroidCollector
this is just my opinion,but I wouldn't host my site with geocites..I don't care how long there gonna be around.You do know that they'll axe your site at any time for any reason right?That's what they did to mine and I never did get an explanation as to why they deleted it.After that I moved on to Lunarpages.com.I've had my site there for about 2 months now.The servers are fast,they provide all the tools that I need,which isn't much,and I've never had any log in problems ever.As for coding,I never have used any programs to aid me.I always use good ol notepad.Yeah it takes a while,but I need the practice...:)

Well, here are the facts. They ALL axe your site for the most trivial of reasons, at any time for any reason, without warning. Take it from me, I have tried 20 or more providers in the past 3 months, and they have all deleted my RM files. So, if you compare them with Geocities, GC is far, far more tolerant of certain types of files than any other. Fortunecity is also very tolerant, but lately, not useful for me because of some logistical problems. After all is said and done, in the totality of all aspects, Geocities has been very dependable for me, though a few years ago, they lost one of my sites and had no explanation.

[Musicollector]

Originally posted by TJGuitar85
Notepad's easy to edit with but it sure as hell isn't too create.


GeoCities doesnt delete accounts for no reason. Ive had inactive accounts for years hat havent even been deleted.

TJ

Right on! They do it only in extreme cases. There has to be a very serious infraction, such as warez or MP3 files, before GC deletes your files.

Now, if only the guys would start giving at least 50 MB...:(

[Bonesgeo]

Originally posted by Hayama-kun


i mean ONLY drag and drop, and absolutely no know-how of how to go about a simple markup language. :p


i might be offering this:

1 MB webspace



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1?or is it 10 or 20?:rolleyes: :cool: :D