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Warning: 2XHosting is scammer!

IPAIDYOU
January 4th, 2006, 18:44
Warning: 2XHosting is scammer!

I was cheated $10

Here is his hateful trick:

He setup your account after you paid, then, he suspend your account with some ridiculous reason the next day. So you lose your money and you get nothing from this scammer!

See his scammer corporate host plan on his website:
25000 MB Data Storage
400 GB Data Transfer
10 Domains Hosted

Only need $10.42/Mon

How he can earn money if he is not scammer?

James
January 4th, 2006, 18:50
IPAIDYOU,

True, it must be very difficult for you.

Perhaps you could state the exact reason you were given from your host as to why your account was classified "abuse".

Get a refund if you can.

Best

A1Owner
January 4th, 2006, 19:26
Sad to know but remember 400gb for 10 $ is like saying hello to God on phone. Now u decide if thats possible or not.

Judge Fudge
January 4th, 2006, 19:34
2xhosting is a resellerpanel reseller, you've gotta research before you buy.

LSComputers
January 4th, 2006, 19:44
Agreed, always research your host, theres to many resellers out there today.

TJR Networks
January 4th, 2006, 19:49
Agreed, always research your host, theres to many resellers out there today.
Yes, you can never do too much research. The important thing to look at though is: does the host look cheap (template based sites and $2 a month hosting plans are a good example)? If the answer is yes, then chances are they have cheap suppliers (whether dedicated or reseller) and will probably let you down in the future.

Mini
January 4th, 2006, 20:08
[REMOVED]

Thanks,
Mini

Dan
January 4th, 2006, 20:20
Then if he was only on the server a day, give him a refund and send him on his way.

utcrazy
January 4th, 2006, 20:47
/me isn't , clearly overselling. cPanel would be well advised to make cPanel unable to oversell :)

Mini
January 4th, 2006, 20:49
[REMOVED]

Mini

T^2
January 4th, 2006, 20:56
Warning: 2XHosting is scammer!

I was cheated $10

Here is his hateful trick:

He setup your account after you paid, then, he suspend your account with some ridiculous reason the next day. So you lose your money and you get nothing from this scammer!

See his scammer corporate host plan on his website:
25000 MB Data Storage
400 GB Data Transfer
10 Domains Hosted

Only need $10.42/Mon

How he can earn money if he is not scammer?

Okay you need to provide an URL if you are making this accusation. Because like stated before http://2xhosting.com/ is using a free resellerpanel thing and if that is the case then he CAN'T suspend your account because he DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS to the server itself. And also it makes me think you are talking about http://2xhosting.com/ because you said 25000MB and 400 GB for 10.42 which matches the exact offer at http://2xhosting.com/. And yet, it is impossible for that site's owner to suspend your account.

So that leads me to believe you are talking about 2xhosting.net in which case...well nothing to say because Mini said most of it.

Your stories aren't making any sense, so I suggest next time do more research and follow the TOS and AUP.

Judge Fudge
January 4th, 2006, 22:12
Do you mean <<removed>>?

If you do mean them, they are on my server.

Also, to add to this. IPAIDYOU, is your site topxsite.net? If so, I suspended it because you were using excessive resources, and I disallowed the reseller to unsuspend it because you were causing performance problems to other people on the same server. That site, <<removed>>, was getting 50,000 hits in a day (most likely because it was a porn site and it was only on the server for a day and a bit) which is unacceptable for a shared environment. Correct me, if I'm wrong about your site.

Thanks,
Mini


25000 MB Data Storage
400 GB Data Transfer
10 Domains Hosted

more sounds like the plan on 2xhosting.com

TJR Networks
January 4th, 2006, 22:32
Do you mean <<name removed as requested by Mini>>?

If you do mean them, they are on my server.

Also, to add to this. IPAIDYOU, is your site topxsite.net? If so, I suspended it because you were using excessive resources, and I disallowed the reseller to unsuspend it because you were causing performance problems to other people on the same server. That site, topxsite.net, was getting 50,000 hits in a day (most likely because it was a porn site and it was only on the server for a day and a bit) which is unacceptable for a shared environment. Correct me, if I'm wrong about your site.Am I the only one who thinks it is very unprofessional to disclose customer details on a public forum?

more sounds like the plan on 2xhosting.comYes it does, but what do people expect when they based their choices on price alone?

rhianna
January 4th, 2006, 22:37
2xhosting is a resellerpanel reseller, you've gotta research before you buy.

Do you have any research tips for people? Often (not always) the ones who are scammed are those who are naive. What are the best ways to find out if a host is a "resellerpanel reseller?"

How can people find these things out?

In general, what indicates a "good [hosting] deal" or a "too-good-to-be-true deal?"

spiralfive
January 4th, 2006, 22:52
Here's the only way I know of knowing if it's a ResellersPanel host:

1)- Recognizing their templates
2)- Click on the resellers "Reseller" link and see if it redirects you to "ResellersPanel.com" (Of course, this is'nt necessarily true. A regular host could use them to provide their reseller services.)
3)- The plans they offer. ResellersPanel only offers 2 plans (specs-wise). Price may vary depending on the site.
4)- The "elefante" installer is mentioned

Mini
January 4th, 2006, 22:57
Am I the only one who thinks it is very unprofessional to disclose customer details on a public forum?

I was only trying to defend 2xhosting because they are not a scam. But anyhow, I've removed the details to prevent more arguments. Also, would you kindly please remove it from your post aswell.

Thanks,
Mini

rhianna
January 4th, 2006, 22:58
Here's the only way I know of knowing if it's a ResellersPanel host:

1)- Recognizing their templates
2)- Click on the resellers "Reseller" link and see if it redirects you to "ResellersPanel.com" (Of course, this is'nt necessarily true. A regular host could use them to provide their reseller services.)
3)- The plans they offer. ResellersPanel only offers 2 plans (specs-wise). Price may vary depending on the site.
4)- The "elefante" installer is mentioned

Thanks for the specifics, but is a "ResellersPanel host" by default a bad deal? Some people seem to be pleased with reseller deals, no? I understand how a reseller option is an advantage to the business, but when is the reseller an advantage to the customer?

TJR Networks
January 4th, 2006, 23:10
What are the best ways to find out if a host is a "resellerpanel reseller?" Their sites look identical. If there is reference to quoting a specific support number when you contact support you know you are not going to be dealing with the person running the "host" - if you can call it that - directly.

Do you have any research tips for people? Often (not always) the ones who are scammed are those who are naive.I would disagree with that. People who don't know much about hosting probably use their ISP to host their site and pay through the nose for it. Most people are will to pay a reasonable amount for their site to be hosted and most of those seeking bargains know that they are taking a risk. :)

Edit: Thanks for the specifics, but is a "ResellersPanel host" by default a bad deal? Some people seem to be pleased with reseller deals, no? I understand how a reseller option is an advantage to the business, but when is the reseller an advantage to the customer?It is important to differentiate between the a reseller account and the company with a similar name. The quality of the supplier determines how good the hosting is going to be. Reseller accounts aren't in themselves bad things, it's more how people use them. :)

WL-Michael
January 4th, 2006, 23:17
Their sites look identical.
Agreed. Its usually always a site that has a very poorly designed banner (Something thrown together to make a quick buck) then the rest of the page looking as if it was designed by a few professionals.

rhianna
January 4th, 2006, 23:19
People who don't know much about hosting probably use their ISP to host their site and pay through the nose for it.

In the above statement, TJR, are you referring to the webspace that accompanies the original Internet service connection deal or are you talking about buying additional hosting from the ISP?

TJR Networks
January 4th, 2006, 23:20
No, I'm talking about the people who purchase additional hosting from their ISP. :)

rhianna
January 4th, 2006, 23:26
Most people are will to pay a reasonable amount for their site to be hosted and most of those seeking bargains know that they are taking a risk. :)


I think that many people "seeking bargains" are naive in terms of hosting terminology. Looking for a host can be very confusing for people.

WL-Michael
January 4th, 2006, 23:31
I think that many people "seeking bargains" are naive in terms of hosting terminology. Looking for a host can be very confusing for people.
Yes, especially if they arent computer savvy.

TJR Networks
January 4th, 2006, 23:54
I suppose that in some ways you are right rhianna. It's the same with anything though, I don't know anything about the internals of a car but I know there are people out there who would see me coming and try to rip me off (I'm taking second hand here, not new) so I would research the matter before visiting a car yard and take a friend along who knew what sort of things to look out for in used cars. :-)

It's a shame that more people don't take this approach to hosting. In fact recently I had a discussion with a potential customer about heavy overselling and how it could affect their website. They understood everything I was saying but still couldn't bring themselves to part with the deal that looked better on paper but probably wouldn't be in practice. In many cases people are their own worst enemy but the more educated everyone is the better choices they can make. Luckily most people learn from their mistakes and the reality is that cheap hosts are so, so cheap that the money lost in the process is irrelevant.

Marky
January 5th, 2006, 03:25
is it me or is there like so many hosts using the exact same template like www.tekhosting.be, www.antenhost.com, www.2xhosting.com with exact same system in place or something like that. Why is there so many look a likes?

Craig
January 5th, 2006, 03:27
is it me or is there like so many hosts using the exact same template like www.tekhosting.be (http://www.tekhosting.be), www.antenhost.com (http://www.antenhost.com), www.2xhosting.com (http://www.2xhosting.com) with exact same system in place or something like that. Why is there so many look a likes?

Hi

They are all reseller panel resellers.

Ako
January 5th, 2006, 03:41
is it me or is there like so many hosts using the exact same template like www.tekhosting.be, www.antenhost.com, www.2xhosting.com with exact same system in place or something like that. Why is there so many look a likes?

Because resellerspanel gives its members the option to download a pre-made template by them, and many just change the header

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 06:56
Hello, and no I am not a scammer. Your thinking about 2xhosting.com but my domain is 2xhosting.net also here I will post the transcript.

In a名字 says:
unsuspend my account!!!
名字 says:
or you refund me
名字 says:
I will not use your service!
名字 says:
do not try to scam me!
Eugene - says:
Ok... Reason Was
Eugene - says:
You had Illegal content on your server
Eugene says:
on your account
Eugene says:
and the reason the ponography on your account did not seem to be 18 years or older
名字 says:
where?!
名字 says:
show me !!
Eugene says:
If you can provide a manufest of all the models we will unsuspend you account
名字 says:
---- you! -----! you always scam like that! you -----!
Eugene says:
sorry to tell you that I host many people
名字 says:
I will tell all in freewebspace!
Eugene says:
I am not a scammer
Eugene says:
or Just provide me will a details of your models
Eugene says:
Like Age and name
名字 says:
if you are not scammer, you refund me and I will not use your service!
Eugene says:
as stated in TOS
名字 says:
I will let everyone in freewebspace to know you ----- scammer!
Eugene says:
also.... You may want to tone your language down
Eugene says:
also why did ***** host suspend your account then?
Eugene - says:
because of illegal content
Eugene - says:
It was not me who suspended your account it was our automated search robot
Eugene - says:
checks for illegal files
Eugene - says:
I will look into your files to see what things you have on
Eugene - says:
Also in CANADA and UK
Eugene - says:
and USA
Eugene -says:
You have to have page telling this is a page with pornograpy
名字 says:
---- you! ----- ! I have told you that I need adult space!
Eugene - says:
and must be 18 years or older and do you agree
名字 says:
and I have adult warning in my homepage!
Eugene - says:
Yes but I did say LEGAL ADULT PAGE
Eugene - says:
You have to have a page without any porn and and your TOS and do you agree or not
Eugene - says:
It cannot be a pop up box or a small notice at top
Eugene - says:
there must be an entrance page with your TOS
Eugene - says:
and do you agree or not
Eugene says:
If you comply with the rules I will unsuspend your account
Eugene says:
If i do not have these rules in place the whole server gets unplugged and I have more customers to deal with
Eugene says:
Are you going to comply
Eugene says:
hello?
名字 says:
you evil! I know you scammers! First let clients to pay then suspend their account in radicurous reason!
Eugene says:
That is a vaild reason
Eugene says:
and I'll ask you one more time, are you going to comply?
名字 says:
I will never use your service and I will let everyone know your scammers! you -----!
Eugene says:
Could you please watch your language
Eugene says:
All I said is are your going to comply with our rules? If you do your account will be unsuspended
Eugene says:
Hello? Are you going to comply?


I told him if he complys with rules I will unsuspend account. Please don't say thing if you do not get facts.

TaintedPearls
January 5th, 2006, 07:01
If he signed up for the plan that's on 2xhosting.com and you, yourself, are 2xhosting.net, why is he PMing you about his account? The packages page isn't set up or something on 2xhosting.net.

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:03
His account is set-up on OUR 2xhosting.net Server. Yes so we only do custom packages at moment. So please do not spread word about 2xhosting.net is a bad host. I said if he does comply with rules I will unsuspend his accout. But in the transcript did he want to comply, no so I have suspended his account untill he agrees we will not unsuspend his account.

Anyone who wants a XML version of MSN transcript to review your self PM me.

TaintedPearls
January 5th, 2006, 07:06
ok it seemed as if u were saying you aren't 2xhosting.com

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:09
I am not 2xhosting.com I am 2xhosting.net and his account is setup on 2xhosting.net servers and we arn't resellerspanel.com reselling account.

James
January 5th, 2006, 07:09
If it really was underage porn, it should, must be reported to crime investigation units.

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:11
Yes but, he is located in China no investigation unit in China is not going to investigate this crime. Anyways thanks for tip I will report it.

James
January 5th, 2006, 07:12
You ought add .NET on all your presentations or change your name altogether before your proper launch, you have people thinking you are .COM - an awful looking resellerspanel reseller.

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:15
Ok.... I should is it possible to change usernames here?

James
January 5th, 2006, 07:16
Whether it's China or Mars, it's underage porn. One should fight against it, whatever means.

James
January 5th, 2006, 07:17
PM - "Jan" requesting change of username with your reason, she'll understand.

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:18
Well thanks James, for your input.

TaintedPearls
January 5th, 2006, 07:20
2xhosting.net, you offer the same package as 2xhosting.com?

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 07:23
No I do not he just went to 2xhosting.com website and thinking it me.

TaintedPearls
January 5th, 2006, 07:26
IPAIDYOU, how can you not know which site you ordered from?

hottweelz
January 5th, 2006, 08:22
I'm so confused, it hurts. Next time, don't host a Chinese Porn Site by default, you won't have these issues then.

utcrazy
January 5th, 2006, 09:52
China actually has the most strict porn laws in the world. If someone is even hosting over 18 porn in China, they can be arrested.

hottweelz
January 5th, 2006, 09:54
Which is why they FLOCK to America, for servers, and the entire country follows.

Johnson
January 5th, 2006, 10:40
You Hello?
You are chatting with Ender
Ender Hello and welcome! I am your Live Chat operator Ender. How may I help you today?
You I was looking at your plans and am very interested in purchasing your services, but I came across this:
You http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?p=654099
You Can you explain that?
Ender Let me check please.
Ender I looked at the thread that you have provided. I have not read the entire thread, because it is too long. However, I do not see anything alarming in the thread. We do not suspend user accounts without a good reason.
Ender Most likely the customer in question has violated our Terms and Conditions of service in some paragraph.
You Is that a fat joke?
You You calling me fat?
You Goodbye sir!
I hope I talked to the right host.

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 11:26
nope wrong host... My site is http://2xhosting.net

eugeneo
January 5th, 2006, 11:31
Before you post PLEASE make sure what hosting company you are talking to. Thank you.

AGAIN MY SITE IS
http://2xhosting.net

LSComputers
January 5th, 2006, 11:44
Basicly, If he had illegal porn or no proof of it being legal, then I dont see you dong anything wrong. You seemed to keep your kool during the msn log, even when he was swearing.

My recommendation to you though is cut the custom packages and get set packages first, custom packages will cause you problems if your not getting enough satisfied clients.

Good Luck,

WL-Michael
January 5th, 2006, 16:25
Before you post PLEASE make sure what hosting company you are talking to. Thank you.

AGAIN MY SITE IS
http://2xhosting.net
Hmm...
I'd think it wouldnt be a bad idea to get a complete name change...

MMarko
January 6th, 2006, 10:20
IPAIDYOU,

True, it must be very difficult for you.

Perhaps you could state the exact reason you were given from your host as to why your account was classified "abuse".

Get a refund if you can.


Maybe he deserverd to be scamed when he beleived that he can get that plan for $10 / month. No offense :)

Skribblez
January 6th, 2006, 10:29
Hello, and no I am not a scammer. Your thinking about 2xhosting.com but my domain is 2xhosting.net also here I will post the transcript.

In a名字 says:
unsuspend my account!!!
名字 says:
or you refund me
名字 says:
I will not use your service!
名字 says:
do not try to scam me!
Eugene - says:
Ok... Reason Was
Eugene - says:
You had Illegal content on your server
Eugene says:
on your account
Eugene says:
and the reason the ponography on your account did not seem to be 18 years or older
名字 says:
where?!
名字 says:
show me !!
Eugene says:
If you can provide a manufest of all the models we will unsuspend you account
名字 says:
---- you! -----! you always scam like that! you -----!
Eugene says:
sorry to tell you that I host many people
名字 says:
I will tell all in freewebspace!
Eugene says:
I am not a scammer
Eugene says:
or Just provide me will a details of your models
Eugene says:
Like Age and name
名字 says:
if you are not scammer, you refund me and I will not use your service!
Eugene says:
as stated in TOS
名字 says:
I will let everyone in freewebspace to know you ----- scammer!
Eugene says:
also.... You may want to tone your language down
Eugene says:
also why did ***** host suspend your account then?
Eugene - says:
because of illegal content
Eugene - says:
It was not me who suspended your account it was our automated search robot
Eugene - says:
checks for illegal files
Eugene - says:
I will look into your files to see what things you have on
Eugene - says:
Also in CANADA and UK
Eugene - says:
and USA
Eugene -says:
You have to have page telling this is a page with pornograpy
名字 says:
---- you! ----- ! I have told you that I need adult space!
Eugene - says:
and must be 18 years or older and do you agree
名字 says:
and I have adult warning in my homepage!
Eugene - says:
Yes but I did say LEGAL ADULT PAGE
Eugene - says:
You have to have a page without any porn and and your TOS and do you agree or not
Eugene - says:
It cannot be a pop up box or a small notice at top
Eugene - says:
there must be an entrance page with your TOS
Eugene - says:
and do you agree or not
Eugene says:
If you comply with the rules I will unsuspend your account
Eugene says:
If i do not have these rules in place the whole server gets unplugged and I have more customers to deal with
Eugene says:
Are you going to comply
Eugene says:
hello?
名字 says:
you evil! I know you scammers! First let clients to pay then suspend their account in radicurous reason!
Eugene says:
That is a vaild reason
Eugene says:
and I'll ask you one more time, are you going to comply?
名字 says:
I will never use your service and I will let everyone know your scammers! you -----!
Eugene says:
Could you please watch your language
Eugene says:
All I said is are your going to comply with our rules? If you do your account will be unsuspended
Eugene says:
Hello? Are you going to comply?


I told him if he complys with rules I will unsuspend account. Please don't say thing if you do not get facts.


LMAO @ all the swearing.. :biggrin2:

Marky
January 6th, 2006, 10:35
Which is why they FLOCK to America, for servers, and the entire country follows.

lol prolly cause american servers are more reliable and up to date, and LOL @
"名字 says:
you evil! I know you scammers! First let clients to pay then suspend their account in radicurous reason!"

Radicurous! thats a cool word :P

MMarko
January 6th, 2006, 10:39
Radicurous! thats a cool word :P

:biggrin2: :biggrin2:





  
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