Videotaping/Filming

[Dusty]

I was reading an article on digital video and I was wondering, what do all of you here use to videotape/film with and why? Also, as a side topic, what do you think is the future of digital video?

My vote: Film all the way. 16mm when I can afford it, Super8 otherwise. I'd choose real film over the most expensive high-end digital video camera you might lob at me. I just ordered ten more carriages of K40 Super8 (500 feet, enough for about 30 minutes of screen-time) to take along with me on my trip to Germany in about three weeks. I leave my film as film to, I don't have it telecined. I like projecting it, if I wanted to look at it on TV I'd used video. Why? I like the look and feel of film, I like editing film, latitude and color saturation of film beat out all forms of video hands down... I just like film, even if it is extremely expensive and it causes me to film much less often than I'd like to.

[Gayowulf]

i like 16mm, but i havve to settle for 8mm. i would only use digital if i was planning on modifying and doing a lot of editing on the computer. I helped a friend with a sports video done on 8mm then onto the computer.

[Dusty]

i like 16mm, but i havve to settle for 8mm. i would only use digital if i was planning on modifying and doing a lot of editing on the computer. I helped a friend with a sports video done on 8mm then onto the computer.8mm as in double 8? That's what I started filming with. I like it since it's just re-perforated 16mm stock and I find it to be usually better quality. I filmed a cruise I took to Mexico not that long ago on 8mm.

I take it you transferred so you could edit it non-linearly and add sound more easily? For me, I like old-style editing, splicer, film cement, and all that. Sound's a problem, I usually leave my films silent. I wouldn't really mind transferring it and editing it on the computer, if only there was a viable means of transferring it back to film.

[meow]

Film. I'm not into that anymore. If I was and could afford it I would use 16mm. Boy, you can buy those good old cameras real cheap now. But the price of the film is a killer.

[Dusty]

But the price of the film is a killer.Well, taking into account inflation, Super8 really isn't that much more expensive than it was in the 70's. Buying online from Kodak, K40 is $11.00 a cartridge, Dwayne's Photo develops it for $9.00 a cartridge, that works out to about $6-$7 a minute. Not really that bad. I think if Kodak would actually advertise they'd sell much more Super8 than they do now (and could conceivably lower their prices). They've just recently started selling Super8 on the Online Store, you used to have to call them for it. Most people, here anyway, don't even now (EDIT: That should be "know", not "now") Super8 or 8mm exist anymore.

16mm is expensive, so is 8mm but not as bad.

[Rick]

35mm panaflex, with digital audio

[meow]

Well, taking into account inflation, Super8 really isn't that much more expensive than it was in the 70's
Here it is and always was expensive. 16mm even more.

[Peo]

I've just started filming with super8 (the camera is from 1969), I've previously been more into b/w photography. I haven't been able to buy 8mm film here in Sweden. It might be possible somewhere, but I've ordered it from the US.

And to develop those films I need to send it to Switzerland I beleive...

Expensive yes... but it's lot's of fun filming with a super8 camera. :)

[meow]

Really? It's couple of years since I checked but then Kodak was still available.
69? You must have got hold of one of the first specimens. :p
Search for old double 8 cameras. They were generally of much better quality, especially the lenses. Some were close to the 16mm ones when it comes to optics.

[Gayowulf]

Originally posted by Dusty

I take it you transferred so you could edit it non-linearly and add sound more easily? For me, I like old-style editing, splicer, film cement, and all that. Sound's a problem, I usually leave my films silent. I wouldn't really mind transferring it and editing it on the computer, if only there was a viable means of transferring it back to film.

Sound was the main reason. The film would have been cool silent too, but none of us had the patience to do the splicing etc.

[Dusty]

Really? It's couple of years since I checked but then Kodak was still available.8mm? Kodak technically discontinued it years ago but it's a well known fact that if you order in large enough quantities Kodak'll sell you anything. That's how all the 8mm resellers I know of get their film, they buy huge amounts of it from Kodak then cut it down and resell it in either 50 foot or 100 foot spools.


but it's lot's of fun filming with a super8 cameraAgreed :)... but you do get some strange looks from those around you, especially from those that have never seen a ciné camera.

Who voted digital?

[meow]

Yes. 2 or 3 years, not sure. Why? As I understand you say it's still available.

[Dusty]

It is still available. I said that because the way I interpreted what you said you were suggesting a couple years ago Kodak sold it [8mm film]. I was clarifying. Was that not what you were saying?

[meow]

I meant it was film fabricated by Kodak or at least branded Kodak. I'm afraid you've lost me. Aren't you talking aout Kodak too?:confused:

[Dusty]

Okay, neither one of us are making sense I guess. Let me try again:

Peo said that he couldn't find any 8mm film for sale locally.

You said that a couple years ago you knew of locally sold film made by Kodak, but you seemed to be not sure about it now.

I said that Kodak no longer officially makes 8mm, but sells it anyway if you order enough.

Clear now?

[meow]

Yes, I'm sure I bought Super 8 Kodak film in a shop in Malmö a couple of years back. What's so fantastic about that? If the situation was the same then as now they obviously had ordered enough. What does it matter? I was just surprised that it was no longer available at all in Sweden.

[Dusty]

What's so fantastic about that?Nothing at all, I was just clarifying for anyone that might care. I didn't mean anything more than that.

[meow]

lol! I still don't get ----. Let's leave it. :)

[Dusty]

Let's :)