Xoasis.com???

[leeuniverse]

Does anyone know if any kind of customer services exits at Xoasis?
I have tried for a month sending 10 e-mails to Xoasis and it's Parent company. NO RESPONSE!!!
I just want to know if they can change my MX settings to point to mailrecv.bigmailbox.com?
I love their features, it has all been reliable and fast.
But NO SUPPORT!!!

[jiminsd]

I'm a little cautious of Xoasis right at the momement. I just received the Email below from them. To me, they are saying the bottom banners are not getting the clicks that they thought and it's time to go to popups. I think the vote thing is just covering up an already made decision.

"Since we began offering our free web hosting services, we have received thousands of inquiries regarding the inconvenient placement of banners. Well, we're ready to make those inconveniences disappear, but we need your help. We're asking everyone to vote on the banner placement issue so that all of our valued users can voice their opinions. So far the majority of customers who have complained via e-mail have asked for a "popup" banner that would appear and could be quickly closed by the web user. This option would remove any formatting and visual placement issues that the current banner places on your pages. When you vote, you will be deciding whether we stick with the current banners or whether we move onto the "popup" style."

Oh yes, regarding the MX question... I don't think your going to get it from a free host. The best option that I've been doing is setting the MX info and doing a redirect of the domain through ZoneEdit or MyInternet. Not the best answer but I don't know of another at this time unless you pay for a host.

[Edited by jiminsd on 12-06-2000 at 09:52 AM]

[leeuniverse]

How were you lucky enough to actually get an email?
Ya I know. What crazy person whould actually want popups over a Foot Banner.
Come On!!!!!
Foot banners are heaven to me.
I have gone insain trying to find a quality free host that has a Non-Obtrusive banner.
I thought I found it with Xoasis.

They should be able to change the MX settings, wether free or paid. I know some others can do that, but they all have junk banner placement and/or no features.
Xoasis is going to lose me, If I don't get a response soon.

I'm looking at WorldZone.net Pro now.
They have a $25.00 setup fee, but that's it, no other fee's. They are full featured, customizable, seem to have a good rep, banner placement control, and they can change the MX settings for a $15.00 fee (not there choice).

Anyway! Xoasis, if your out there pay attention...

[rmsharpe]

I agree with Ron Seigel with this one, I don't know if anyone should really pay a host and still have banners on it's pages :\

[Omari]

every free host that host domains that i have been with have changed my mx records. xoasis just doesn't read people's e-mails so you won't get anything from them. i asked them the most simple question ever, "what is the path to perl, nothign i try works and its not in the faq" and i never got a reply so i switched.

i agree with you, xoasis has already decided to use pop ups i bet, no one would request a pop up when they have a banner at the very bottom of their pages.

[leeuniverse]

So who did you switch too?
I'm also looking at NetCabins, but thier pretty new and you can't join right now.
Anyone have any thoughts on a full featured free domain host that has a foot banner, or allows you to place it?

[Coolin]

Netcabins has a user-placeable banner policy, but from what I've heard, I think that NC_TOM is thinking of a rule to keep some text below the banner so that the banner can actually have a few views. Sounds pretty fair to me.

[Christy]

Pop ups don't bother me, although I'd rather have the foot banner. What surprises me is that the majority wants pop ups. I thought I was the only one who wasn't bothered by them

[Mandrake]

If you could just kill the pop-up right after it launched and be done with it, that wouldn't be so bad (IMO), but if you want to experience the definition of annoying, go to a VirtualAve-hosted page... If you kill their pop-up, it relaunches itself in a minute or so... And if you leave it, it forces its way to the foreground every minute or so. Makes me leave the site real quick no matter how good it is.
:(

[jiminsd]

Interestingly, having an inline banner or a popup (like VirtualAve) is not a voting option with Xoasis. They must be having trouble. I started yesterday in moving my sites with them to a paid host. It looks to me that you either go with someone big like Hypermart-VirtualAve or Xoom if you want a free host that will be with you in 6 months.

[Cracker]

Originally posted by Christy
Pop ups don't bother me, although I'd rather have the foot banner. What surprises me is that the majority wants pop ups. I thought I was the only one who wasn't bothered by them

...and that is why Crosswinds uses pop-up banners. Also, in my own opinion, pop-ups are the best method of advertising for someone who wants to put a frame-based site on an FWP. When it comes to FWP's who automatically place ads on the member site, the only ads that will work with frames are the pop-ups.

[Mrh0ax]

i dont even look at popups, i just close em, but inline banners i do and sometimes click

[Webdude]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
I agree with Ron Seigel with this one, I don't know if anyone should really pay a host and still have banners on it's pages :\

For one, it's not a pay host because the hosting is FREE. That is a setup fee because they are setup manually and to keep warez an porn off the server.

But it really doesnt matter because we're getting about 20 signups a day. Let's see, that comes out to $500/day or $15,000/month or $180,000/year. I might actually be able to pay off that $100,000 debt I have built up. The number of signups seems to grow by one or two each day, and none has a prob with the banner. If they do, they dont have to signup and they can try to find something better out there.

Either way, all hosts (except free bannerless hosts) are pay host. Do you pay with money? Or a banner of theirs on your pages? Here you pay the setup, but you get to place a banner instead of paying a monthly fee. I have setup a server under a plan like no other host has done. People seem to like this plan, going for it, and are happy with it. Yes there are bugs and some patches need to be done, new probs pop up and I fix them, but all in all, things are going good. Thankyou for wishing me luck for breaking out of the general mold and trying something different. Geez.

[Chicken]

We are not going to re-hash this *again* are we?

[rmsharpe]

Well, a majority of people I know switch to pay hosts to get rid of advertising on the site's pages...

Then again, I understand your concept to keep the banners on there, because it wouldn't be worth it to remove the banners and lose the ad revenue...

But, beware, Webdude: one of the biggest mistakes of people building web businesses is depending on a good economy. I don't know if 20 signups/day will keep up... just don't say I didn't warn you ;)

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Webdude

For one, it's not a pay host because the hosting is FREE. That is a setup fee because they are setup manually and to keep warez an porn off the server.



Just curious, but why would a $25.00 fee keep the "warez and porn off"? I'm sure most of the adult sites/banner farms out there make enough money to pony up a one-time $25.00 fee?

[LawTown Junky]

im waitin for this answer i wanna see what he says

and since he is readin this post ur file manager on worldzone is horrible

[Edited by LawTown Junky on 12-08-2000 at 02:43 PM]

[Cracker]

Originally posted by LawTown Junky
ur fiel manager on worldzone is horrible

I guess that's the price to pay for an unobtrusive banner ad that people only see if they scroll down to the bottom of the page.

[Edited by Cracker on 12-08-2000 at 01:28 PM]

[LawTown Junky]

the damn thing is so not user friendly
it should be changed

[Webdude]

Would you pay $25 to have an account on a server to put up a warez or porn site knowing it's against their rules, get removed quickly, and lose out on your $25? Thats like throwing $25 bucks into the garbage. Bill Gates might do that, but the average Webmaster wouldnt.

As for Lawtown Junky...
How much easier could the account manager possibly be? Most members think it's extremely user friendly. All the options are in the left frame, and they open in the right frame. Wanna upload files? Click the "Upload Files" link in the left frame, the fields open in the right frame....how much simpler can it be? All the options there are just like that.

BTW - I am more than happy to improve the Account Manager if possible, but simply saying it's unfriendly without providing an explanation on it doesnt help me any.


[Edited by Webdude on 12-08-2000 at 03:19 PM]

[Webdude]

Originally posted by rmsharpe
Well, a majority of people I know switch to pay hosts to get rid of advertising on the site's pages...

Well they will be able to pay $5/month billed yearly to not have banners. None have yet and have all opted to have banner instead, which was actually a surprise to me.


Then again, I understand your concept to keep the banners on there, because it wouldn't be worth it to remove the banners and lose the ad revenue...

Your right, lifetime banner free hosting for only $25, we wouldnt be in biz very long....


But, beware, Webdude: one of the biggest mistakes of people building web businesses is depending on a good economy. I don't know if 20 signups/day will keep up... just don't say I didn't warn you ;)

[/b]If the economy went sour, then a lot of people paying $20+ per month would be looking for a cheaper host. Your right, it could possibly hurt me, but then again, it could possibly benefit me as well. I dont know 100% that it will be successful, it's just a chance to be taken like any other new business. Breaking out of the mold is always a big chance, and in this business, staying in the mold is almost as big of a chance.

[Mandrake]

Originally posted by Webdude
Would you pay $25 to have an account on a server to put up a warez or porn site knowing it's against their rules, get removed quickly, and lose out on your $25? Thats like throwing $25 bucks into the garbage. Bill Gates might do that, but the average Webmaster wouldnt.


You never know... There are people that love to play the odds. :)



As for Lawtown Junky...
How much easier could the account manager possibly be? Most members think it's extremely user friendly. All the options are in the left frame, and they open in the right frame. Wanna upload files? Click the "Upload Files" link in the left frame, the fields open in the right frame....how much simpler can it be? All the options there are just like that.

BTW - I am more than happy to improve the Account Manager if possible, but simply saying it's unfriendly without providing an explanation on it doesnt help me any.


[Edited by Webdude on 12-08-2000 at 03:19 PM]

The only complaint I would have about your file manager is, if have several layers of sub-directories and you edit a file that's three levels down, then save it, you end up back at the root directory again, so if you're editing more than one file in the lower levels, you have to keep going back down there each time. Not that big of a deal, but it can get a little annoying sometimes.

Overall though, you have a really nice system... It's the best free host I've tried so far and I've tried quite a few. :)

[jiminsd]

I think it's an interesting idea and Webdude is right about breaking out of the mold. We are seeing many free hosts going under because of the "me too" approach and a no cash flow business plan. I don't know if his idea will work but I sure like his odds over most of the other hosts posted here.

[Webdude]

Mandrake, you edit a file that's three levels down, then save it, you end up back at the root directory again.

Well everyone knows I love editing and seeing how I can improve that thing, now that I have it all figured out (-:

I'll see what I can do on that.

jiminsd, If I am successful in this breaking out of the mold, then perhaps we will start to see hosting prices of paid hosting fall, and see some free hosts trying what I am doing. In the end, it would make the net much more affordable for all people, yet create more reliable hosts that are more feature loaded. Hey, when they start having award shows like the Emmy's and those others on TV for the Internet accomplishments, mebbe I could get one...LOL.

But Peo did say no discussion of http://WorldzonePro.net here on this board, so we'd better quit talking about it...LOL. On one hand it's a free host, on the other hand I could see it as a pay host. Seriously though I dont know what it is since it doesnt really fit either catagory.

[Chicken]

A very reasonably priced, one-time fee paid banner host. You can't lose with that description. I believe that is the most accurate. (You could also say that it's a $25 setup fee, inexpensive paid host as well, if you want to push the $5/mo hosting more).

[Edited by Chicken on 12-08-2000 at 07:51 PM]

[jiminsd]

Hey Chicken and Webdude... you guys have some pull with Peo. Lets start a new catagory: "Very reasonably priced, one-time fee paid banner host" catagory. Probably take most of the traffic from the other boards.

[LawTown Junky]

angelfire has a good file manager even though its slow and what not
but its very easy to use
also the home free file manager is pretty good too
i think your file manager is horrible

[Chris]

Then go to angelfire. No one's stopping you.

[leeuniverse]

Hey WebDude...
I'm with Xoasis at the moment.

If they don't get their "Head out of their **s" and change my MX settings, I will be switching to you.

You are the best out there in features, customizability, and reliability.

I've seen or went through "every one" of the free's.

I'm just with Xoasis at the moment because it's totally free and they have been reliable, but that will not last much longer.

I got to have some service.
At least respond to your customers "Once a Month" Xoasis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I got was a request to vote on their banners....
THE NERVE!!!!!

[WP1]

Hi LeeUniverse,

Check out another thread about "Xoasis" in this forum.
http://www.freewebspace.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=7364#post7364

WP

[niv]

okay...let me sum this up...

20 MB is not enough space
They claim to have CGI access which they DONT
they have an ok banner but i prefer none :D
the actual subdomain is home.xoasis.com/~username
when u login, someone can clearly see ur password: username:password@xoasis.com

2 words sums up xoasis: IT SUX!!! :D

and now your opinions plz :D