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webseeker
August 28th, 2001, 13:03
I have a domain.com and I want to run a free subdomain redirection service
This domain.com has a unique ip and is hosted in a shared raq4 account which is known that rewrites the subdomain to www
So I thought to sign at mydomain.com to have the ability of wildcard subdomains using the ip redirection option of mydomain.com
However I want to offer the option my users to cloak their real url
How this can be achieved having in mind the previous problems ?

If the domain.com resolves to the ip 1.1.1.1 this will be the visible part of the url the users will see?

If I modify from the registrar record the ns fields to point at mydomain.com the name servers of domain.com will still have the old info. The dialup users this provider has or the name servers that take updates from the provider's ns will not show the old nameservers ?

stu
August 28th, 2001, 15:38
Originally posted by webseeker
I have a domain.com and I want to run a free subdomain redirection service
This domain.com has a unique ip and is hosted in a shared raq4 account which is known that rewrites the subdomain to www
So I thought to sign at mydomain.com to have the ability of wildcard subdomains using the ip redirection option of mydomain.com
However I want to offer the option my users to cloak their real url
How this can be achieved having in mind the previous problems ?


Yeah, I think if you point your domain to Mydomain.com nameservers and setup a wildcard there it should work. At Mydomain.com, you have to make sure your domain is using the MyDomainPlus service level in order to get the fancy DNS management options.

I think that the cloaking of the real url is handled by a script. The script will load the target page inside a frame in order to hide the real url from the location bar.




If the domain.com resolves to the ip 1.1.1.1 this will be the visible part of the url the users will see?



You will see the ip 1.1.1.1 in your browser's location bar if you use mydomain's "standard forwarding" option. To get around this, have your domain use IP Pointing ("A" record) to point to the ip. Your wildcard (*.domain.com) should also use IP Pointing as well.




If I modify from the registrar record the ns fields to point at mydomain.com the name servers of domain.com will still have the old info. The dialup users this provider has or the name servers that take updates from the provider's ns will not show the old nameservers ?

I believe if you change your ns fields at your registrar to point at mydomain.com's nameservers, your domain will no longer point to the old nameservers anymore. So after 24-72 hours when your domain with the new nameservers settings propagates all over the world, I don't think you'll have to worry about the old nameservers anymore. Note: not sure if I answered your question correctly since I don't quite understand it.. could you explain dialup users?

niv
August 28th, 2001, 15:44
Are you allowed to resell mydomain? :confused:

webseeker
August 28th, 2001, 16:17
You said : You will see the ip 1.1.1.1 in your browser's location bar if you use mydomain's "standard forwarding" option. To get around this, have your domain use IP Pointing ("A" record) to point to the ip. Your wildcard (*.domain.com) should also use IP Pointing as well.

I tried with domain B.com and using the IP pointing feature of mydomainplus to see what happens
I entered the IP of domain A.com and after 1-2 days when the update of A record was worldwide visible i tried with the browser but it forwarded me to the normal url of domain A.com without cloaking the url or IP of domain A.com

Does it work with this way ?

TO Hayama-kun
Resell mydomain services ?????
I believe you didn't understand what i asked

niv
August 28th, 2001, 16:21
Well, not resell, but co-brand.

stu
August 28th, 2001, 17:43
Originally posted by webseeker

I tried with domain B.com and using the IP pointing feature of mydomainplus to see what happens
I entered the IP of domain A.com and after 1-2 days when the update of A record was worldwide visible i tried with the browser but it forwarded me to the normal url of domain A.com without cloaking the url or IP of domain A.com

Does it work with this way ?


that's weird. so if I understand correctly, you have a domain B.com pointing to the IP of A.com. but what it's doing is when you go to B.com in your browser, it redirects you and puts A.com in your location bar of your browser?

It looks as though it's doing the "standard forwarding" feature. IP Pointing shouldn't do that at all. maybe something is funky with mydomain.. try deleting that domain from your domain list in your mydomain control panel. re-add it and set it to IP Pointing and point it to your site's IP. and check back in a couple hours to see if it works any different.

webseeker
August 31st, 2001, 17:02
Well i tried all the combinations with mydomain :

Look what's the problem
I changed the NS servers from the NS of my host provider (who use Cobalt RAQ) to mydomain.com NS servers
I fixed the IP pointing (A record) with mydomain of domainA.com to point to the unique IP of domainA.com

Now.....
When i type whatever.domainA.com it goes to mydomain.com see the IP, the IP translated to domain name, the cobalt rewrite the subdomain with www and i have back again the same www.domainA.com and not the whatever.domainA.com

I email the provider and told them to allow me have just a unique IP removing from their server my domain name and keep only the IP

They said it's not possible because they must put a domain name with the Cobalt

What i can do now ? (I don't want to move to dedicated server yet)

stu
August 31st, 2001, 17:35
cobalt raq eh? I think i've heard that they work differently, so I think I've heard of people who have been having trouble with subdomain scripts on those raqs. I don't know for sure though, since I've never been on a raq before...

your subdomain service should technically work on any other host that isn't using cobalt raqs, so long as they provide you with a dedicated IP with your plan.

Chicken
September 3rd, 2001, 00:06
The rewrite rules are strong within the RaQs obi-wan. They could do some httpd.conf editing if they wanted to, but they might not. This has been dicussed (exact same problem) within the last three weeks at WHT by someone trying to do the same thing. Maybe it was you, heh.

Editor
September 3rd, 2001, 13:10
Webseeker, we use http://www.scripts24.com/iredirsub.php on a RaQ. It runs subdomain and full domain redirection fine. You don't need a dedicated IP (but it helps). Just ask your host to enable wildcards for your domain.

Example:
www.lakesend.net
redirects to (and cloaks) www.aussiedomains.net

http://meadows.queensland.com.kg
redirects to (and cloaks) www.editorsdesk.net

Gary