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  1. January 9th, 2001, 00:28 #31
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    The Nintendo 64 was not a failure. Many people use and enjoy it. My cousin has one, and there are many good games for this system. (eg. Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Goldeneye 007, and Perfect Dark)
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    Face it, N64's a failure...
    I think the main reason for that is because they still use those hard-to-make-and-real-expensive cartridges.

    But I won't deny its great games. They ARE great. But the N64 itself is, like I said, a big failure.
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    Angry I wonder how much the xbox will cost?

    Have you heard how much ---- is loaded into the xbox? It better $500, instead of $1200, hearing what it is loaded with!!!!!
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  4. January 9th, 2001, 13:19 #34
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    I found this pic on IGN, it is the official Xbox spec sheet, except edited by the nice folks at IGNCube, lol... its kinda funny.

    http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/news/...boxredink1.jpg
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    Originally posted by Coolin
    The Nintendo 64 was not a failure. Many people use and enjoy it. My cousin has one, and there are many good games for this system. (eg. Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Goldeneye 007, and Perfect Dark)
    N64 wasn't a failure, nor a big gainer compared to PS. I own a N64 and just got a Dreamcast this past Christmas and I play both.

    Anyone used the Dreamcast web browser? It totally sucks...
  6. January 9th, 2001, 19:37 #36
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    Originally posted by Coolin
    The Nintendo 64 was not a failure. Many people use and enjoy it. My cousin has one, and there are many good games for this system. (eg. Zelda, Super Smash Brothers, Goldeneye 007, and Perfect Dark)
    I never said it did, I have a Nintendo 64 aswell and enjoy many of the games. In my opinion much better than the majority of the PlayStations'. Although I do like Tenchu, Driver and Gran Turismo on the PlayStation. I also like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Lylatwars (Starfox 64) on the Nintendo 64.

    The fact remains that the Nintendo is a failure when compared to the marketing genius behind the Sony PLayStation and it's record sales.

    Let's just hope Nintendo will pick it's act up with the next round of consoles.
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  7. January 9th, 2001, 19:41 #37
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  8. January 9th, 2001, 19:43 #38
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    Originally posted by KapTinKiRk
    I found this pic on IGN, it is the official Xbox spec sheet, except edited by the nice folks at IGNCube, lol... its kinda funny.

    http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/news/...boxredink1.jpg
    Funny! lol! Shame the didn't make it a gif... bit hard to read as a JPEG. Silly Proffesionals!
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  9. January 11th, 2001, 23:42 #39
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    Let me be the first to say "well maybe not the first" I hate microsoft, but the fact still remains that the xbox is one killer rig. Most of you have already seen the specs on it so I am not going to bother posting them.

    As far as developers goes I don't think they have anyting to worry about there because from what I am reading developers are pulling there games from other systems "oddworld inhabitants from PS2" and porting their games to the xbox.
    THe OS is that is going on the system is a streamlined version of Win2k and from what I have heard it is a pretty stable OS.

    The fact that they are offering a 8gb HD on the system is pretty awesome too and I have heard that by launch there will be over 60 custom programs written specifically for the xbox which include everthing form instant messaging systems to full blown video conferencing software.

    Now to speak of price, I would not be at all suprised if the system came out at a price of under $400.00 The reason I say that is because like someone else stated they could deal with the loss in profit form the rig itself bacause within a few months they would be right back on track from software sales and it would be like they had not lost anything at all.

    Anyway that is my 2 cents so take it for what it is worth.
  10. January 12th, 2001, 00:48 #40
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    Xbox is just a computer, made by a computer company. PC Gamers may rejoice to have it, but quite frankly I'm a console -----, and I want a console that plays games, not another computer.

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  11. January 12th, 2001, 02:45 #41
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    Originally posted by neon
    Now to speak of price, I would not be at all suprised if the system came out at a price of under $400.00 The reason I say that is because like someone else stated they could deal with the loss in profit form the rig itself bacause within a few months they would be right back on track from software sales and it would be like they had not lost anything at all.
    First of all a great opinion, now just one point I'd like to pick up on.

    Price.

    Typically consoles sell for a lot cheaper then they are actually worth. Even when they first come out and cost a small fortune the console company is not making a profit. This is due to the fact they make all their money back in royalties from the publishers.

    For the PlayStation it's something like $5 (for a 5c CD) and for the N64 $15 (for a $5 cartridge). I havn't seen the figures for such a l-o-n-g time so don't take my word for it... just get the idea.

    Because the xBox will be open platformed it means that Microsoft will not make money or royalties off any games sold. So the price of the console will have to be, well, the price of the console.

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  12. January 18th, 2001, 01:09 #42
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    Well I noticed allot of you are posting without knowledge of the facts about the X-Box.... Well ONE big thing for those of you who think just because Microsoft is going into the gaming Industry that they have no expereince with that they will fail maybe you are wrong, because the game makers who make games for Nintendo, PS, PS2, Sega, Etc. are making the games for Microsoft, not just Microsoft itself, so how can you say they will suck?, if you say theyl suck then your saying games for the rest of the consoles will suck to because the fact the companys who make them games are also doing so for Microsoft. Microsoft simply built a better high performance console, and its giving game enginers more options to make better games than they can do with your typical consoles (PS2 and stuff).... Anyways I suggest you guys read more on about who will supply Microsoft with making games, not just Microsoft itself.
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    To me, it looks like another Micro---- scandal, like the previous case with internet browsers. Oh, yeah... Micro---- knows how to suck money, yup.
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    dont forget commodore was a major player

    with the c64 and amiga... yhen they released a cd console (yes, about 5 years ahead of its time) and it failed then they went bust, were bought out, went bust etc... just coz it was heaps better in terms of hardware didn't mean it had the majority of the market share and the same could happen to the x-box
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    Yeah and the same can happen to the PS2 too, im hearing terrible reviews on it, ive played it, I think it isnt no better than the Dreamcast, except the DVD feature. Graphics are so much alike.... Even the games theyre making for PS2 they will barely ever use to the max of game programming. soyou got wasted ram just sitting there, with the rest of the useless technology. The X-Box should be goo,d but I think the Dolphin will be better, Nintendo always surprised the gamers with there outstanding performance in the gaming industry.
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