Kiddie Hosts, and their oversold resellers!

**Tree** · March 29th, 2006, 16:01

If not for "kiddie" hosts, the reseller market would essentially be dead...

this seems simply like a advertisement for your services! please, I hope this is wrong, I really, really hate it when people pull a stunt like this.

This does seem like this is what it is. Let me count the plugs for My-E-Space...

6 or so.

**build-a-host** · March 29th, 2006, 16:01

How is complaining about kiddie hosts, and telling people different ways to check out a host concidered advertising?

And what "Plugs" are you talking about? You mean my sig?,,lol

**Tree** · March 29th, 2006, 16:08

Being a host myself

But, if you actually have a support staff (as I do) then the only way you wouldnt get a reply within an hour from us, is if a bomb hit the building and blew it up!

I get my servers from Liquidweb.com

My servers are housed at Liquidwebs datacenter in Lansing MI. so maybe some kids try that, but WE require quality for our clients!

Also other comments. Seems like you are saying "I sure am glad that I'm not one of them. My website never oversells. My host isn't a kiddie host."

Not targeting you as a "kiddie host". Just seems like a legal plug for My-E-Space

**James** · March 29th, 2006, 16:13

Originally Posted by my-e-space

As for the bedroom host comment. My servers are housed at Liquidwebs datacenter in Lansing MI. so maybe some kids try that, but WE require quality for our clients!

My bedroom comment was actually meaning the running of business from your bedroom not the location of servers, server in bedroom - that would be total ridicule. Nothing wrong with at home businessing (I do it all the time), the bedroom comment would have struck some consciences for sure, those who noticed it but again, nothing wrong with it if you trade/business by the rules/law with good ethics.

My-E-Space, nobody is targeting you, we all heard this rant about kiddie hosts before, that is all. You just got a bit excited you found out what these "kiddie hosts" are and wanted to tell the world about it. We're glad you are past that point of understanding as a web host

I still would be curious for you to define "Kiddie hosts". I fail to come up with an exact, intelligent, fair description

**Craig** · March 29th, 2006, 16:13

I say...... Goodluck to them all.

To tell you the truth, I dont care about them anymore, it isnt going to stop so why keep moaning about it.

The OP is acting more like a kid than the host that is run by the kid

Goodluck to all host that are run by young people

**Richard** · March 29th, 2006, 16:25

Ok, i'm giving my review here:

about a week ago, i set a reseller up on one of my VPS servers, this reseller was for: 10GB Diskspace, 100GB Bandwidth.

Guess what? I checked the account yesterday and found that there was 19 1GB diskspace and 10 GB bandwidth accounts on it.

Hold on a min... This means that he has already nearly gone over twice as much as he should, and with him coming up to 75% bandwidth usage it's a little worrying. I emailed him yesterday and he replyed with something about he cant afford to give any more money as he is not even making enought to cover the costs of the reseller.

WTF?

I sold the reseller to him for $13.65/month and if he has not made enought to cover the costs he must be selling for under $1 for 1 GB Disk and 10 GB Band

After further inspection on his site, i found him to be selling these accounts for $0.50/month if you order 6+ months in advance.

Today, his account reached 100% bandwidth usage, and i terminated it. Guess what? I have got 32 "hatefull" emails for his customers asking why there hosting was canceled saying they payed $3 (some even $6) for hosting (for 6 and 12 months!) they asked for refunds, telling me they would hack my server if i didant give them it...

I'm pissed at these kiddy hosts... they oversell WAY too much and then disapear!

**James** · March 29th, 2006, 16:31

Hosting-Shack,

He could allocate 19 of those because overselling is allowed, correct? If so you shouldn't be surprised at the allocations. Many reseller accounts allocated more that their usage limits..

Is that your policy? To terminate accounts once it reaches 100 percent bandwidth? A potential client would be too scared to purchase plans from you.

**Richard** · March 29th, 2006, 16:37

Originally Posted by James

Hosting-Shack,

He could allocate 19 of those because overselling is allowed, correct? If so you shouldn't be surprised at the allocations. Many reseller accounts allocated more that their usage limits..

Is that your policy? To terminate accounts once it reaches 100 percent bandwidth? A potential client would be too scared to purchase plans from you.

In the case that we could not contact the host, and he was further not willing to pay any extra... he was using over 20GB/day meaning after 5 more days he would be over his limit by twice as much. (and he had only been hosted for 9 days!)

We normaly allow users to go 25% above on bandwidth, but his account was terminated because of the content (files) went against our TOS as well as the bandwidth.

**A1Owner** · March 29th, 2006, 17:04

Hosting shack to be frank ur not doing ur buisness properly. Any account that gets setup by your reseller has to be inspected ASAP (not a week later) when its up to keep ur server clean. Cause i remember a guy signed up for reseller on my hosting and next day he had 2 1 gb accounts on it already. I said i will terminate his account if he doesnt make packages smaller in size ( oh note he was on 150mb plan only

). Well he read the mail but decided instead to make another 1 gb account on it. And i just terminated his account and asked if he would like refund, he said yes i want refund plus the paypal fee that got charged, and i was like wtf is with kids. So hosting shack if ur doing buiness the right way you wouldnt be getting such threathing emails cause its your duty to put tos into action as soon as you see troublesome account.

**utcrazy** · March 29th, 2006, 17:12

I get P4 2.4gHz at The Planet with Yipes or HE bandwidth for $120 with cPanel, at a very stable provider. So if you know where to look, and who to trust, you can find the good servers.

**Richard** · March 29th, 2006, 17:15

Originally Posted by a1whs.com

Hosting shack to be frank ur not doing ur buisness properly. Any account that gets setup by your reseller has to be inspected ASAP (not a week later) when its up to keep ur server clean. Cause i remember a guy signed up for reseller on my hosting and next day he had 2 1 gb accounts on it already. I said i will terminate his account if he doesnt make packages smaller in size ( oh note he was on 150mb plan only

). Well he read the mail but decided instead to make another 1 gb account on it. And i just terminated his account and asked if he would like refund, he said yes i want refund plus the paypal fee that got charged, and i was like wtf is with kids. So hosting shack if ur doing buiness the right way you wouldnt be getting such threathing emails cause its your duty to put tos into action as soon as you see troublesome account.

Im not going to explain why, but don't pass judgements when you dont know the full story

It gets a bit more complicated than you explain it. My way of doing things is my way. Maybey i don't like some of the things other hosts do on this site? But do i question them? Nope! Everyone to their own!

**T^2** · March 29th, 2006, 18:11

The simple solution to prevent overselling on resellers is to simply not allow overselling through WHM. I really hope I'm not playing tricks on myself and there is such an option in WHM.