How much is overselling really?

**NevuxBB** · March 4th, 2008, 09:29

Overselling, how much do I get my for buck, anyone care to explain how much per gig I should be paying?

**Richard** · March 4th, 2008, 09:40

Its a hard question. But I would say no less than $0.10 per GB of diskspace, you can get it cheap these days, but any less than that, and there would be no profits.

The way I look at "Reliable" hosting, is 1GB of space should cost around $1.00, and 10GB of bandwidth should cost around $1.00. Those are per month.

**NevuxBB** · March 4th, 2008, 09:56

So hostgator would be considered a overseller?

**TSO** · March 4th, 2008, 09:57

Yes, HostGator is definitely an overseller. But there is nothing wrong with that. They are a good host - I used them in the past with no real trouble. Since they went into their "hyper-oversell" mode I don't know how the service is, but I would imagine it is the same (as I have not heard any complaints).

**Richard** · March 4th, 2008, 10:03

Hostgator wont let you host image hosting sites, and limit mySQL connections. So if you expect to have a busy blog, or busy forum, expect to see the "Mysql Connection Limit Reached" error, which will put most visitors off.

**TSO** · March 4th, 2008, 10:06

Richard, I was not aware of that. Thanks for alerting me. Unfortunately, Netfirms just started this practice as well.

**NevuxBB** · March 4th, 2008, 10:06

No I'm not going with hostgator just saying its an example of a overseller.

So there are 2 types of oversellers, good ones and scammers

or those like host gator limitations.

**Richard** · March 4th, 2008, 10:11

There is only one type of overseller. And that is the scamming kind.

You are offering more than you can provide if every client used it, therefore, its always a scam.

There is no such thing as a "good" overseller.

**NevuxBB** · March 4th, 2008, 10:14

I see, thanks for your info.

**TSO** · March 4th, 2008, 10:17

Originally Posted by hosting-shack

There is only one type of overseller. And that is the scamming kind.

You are offering more than you can provide if every client used it, therefore, its always a scam.

There is no such thing as a "good" overseller.

I disagree with that, as I am sure you already know. Lots of companies (outside of the Web hosting industry) engage in overselling, and things don't usually go awry.

**Richard** · March 4th, 2008, 10:21

Originally Posted by TSO

I disagree with that, as I am sure you already know. Lots of companies (outside of the Web hosting industry) engage in overselling, and things don't usually go awry.

I think the key word in that is usually.

I would rather be safe than sorry.

**Calinax** · March 4th, 2008, 22:28

Originally Posted by TSO

I disagree with that, as I am sure you already know. Lots of companies (outside of the Web hosting industry) engage in overselling, and things don't usually go awry.

Well, if you're uisng 10 MB opf storage of 2 TB and 1 GB of transfer from 10 TB, you won't be having any problems with "these" hosts. But try to get most of your bandwidth and storage. You won't be there anymore.

**Richard** · March 5th, 2008, 01:51

Originally Posted by Calinax

Well, if you're uisng 10 MB opf storage of 2 TB and 1 GB of transfer from 10 TB, you won't be having any problems with "these" hosts. But try to get most of your bandwidth and storage. You won't be there anymore.

I think you can sum that up;

I would rather be with a host where I actually know, and can reach, my limits, than a oversold host were I cannot.

**fcolor** · March 5th, 2008, 03:17

I think that the problem is not the overselling model but the way the companies using it are doing their marketing and attract customers. This is not an issue for the people who know what to look for and for those who need some small hosting for their corporate sites or blogs.

**ganesh.rao** · March 5th, 2008, 13:02

I use Servage for forwarding my personal emails.

They have a large cluster and a failover mechanism. If you are going with a overseller, go with these. DreamHost, Servage, etc. HostGator, I believe runs on cPanel which is a no-clustering control panel.

With oversellers like DreamHost and Servage you get a guarantee that your data is always safe and you get near to 100% (a lot more than 99.9999% if you ask me).