Yes I do believe in life after death?
What about you?
Yes I do believe in life after death?
What about you?
same here, life after death is as true as sun and moon.
you have to prepare for it. Believe in one God, follow the divine book and practice good










You don't have to believe in god to believe in a afterlife.
Answer, no.
I won't die, because I don't exist in the first place.
Someone else somewhere far away will just wake up from a vivid dream.
^ Totally expected you to say "I only exist virtually"
But yes I believe in afterlife; otherwise what's the point existing? If our reason of existence is just that then there really is no point going on... (but that's a whole different discussion)
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to live the life you have now, that you KNOW exists?otherwise what's the point existing?










I cant rationally reject the need for an afterlife without feeling stupid!
If our only point was to help bring destruction to the earth, then we should all die now...
Humans have always been destructive to the earth, toxic so to speak..
I cant see how its possible that evolution was perfect at creation but then stuffed up on its most complex creation...
The statement really is "Evolution is perfect at creation then; evolution is imperfect at creation"...
I dont see how it can be both perfect and imperfect, I would think if Big Bang or something like it was real, we wouldn't be a destructive race...
The point of humanity is not "to destroy the earth". We are here for the same reason as any other organism. To co-exist, to adapt, to survive. Sure we might not be following that method these days, but trust me, the earth can cope. The earth will be here long after we've all died.
Furthermore, the idea that "evolution was perfect at creation" is hypocritical to what evolution is. If we were all created perfect, there is no need for evolution. Evolution is but the tweaks along the way on this journey we call existence.
The Big Bang would prevent us from being destructive? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? These are unrelated things.










Ok, can you point to a time in history when we did fellow these methods?
Because I cant find any, so I would love to see some.
From my history studies, I can only find destruction, in the past we were "better" at preserving the earth than we are today, but never fully preserved it.
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Well since for evolution to exist, the sun had to be a certain distance to the earth, gravity had to be just right, trees needed to be just right and our lungs needed to be just right...
The earth needed to be as it is for us to exist on it, couldn't be like mars or Pluto!
The earth got like it is by being PERFECTLY placed?? Didn't it??
So the flaw is, we as humans are not perfect and you even said;Sure we might not be following that method these days...
So I think you agree that the human race is some how flawed..
Why would something that was so perfectly placed spawn such destruction?
We dont co-exist at all! our chopping down of trees has destroyed wild life, our moving around importing different wildlife to different countries has devastated natural wildlife in said country and unbalanced everything, further more the trees we cut our own own oxygen supply.
Why would I trust you? Id rather stick to science on this.but trust me, the earth can cope.
Evolution is different from creation. The right measures fell into place for us to become what we are, but we had to evolve as a species to survive. Otherwise we'd all still be single celled organisms just lying dormant. And obviously we are flawed as a species, which, as I mentioned, IS WHY WE EVOLVE, so we over time change our makeup as a species to closer strive to perfection. whatever perfection is.
Let me ask you this Darknight...are you familiar with pine beetles? beavers? Ticks, parasites? Look at other species around you before you start looking at us as the only ones out there who are consuming the natural resources on this earth. There is nothing out there in this world that doesn't exist to consume something on this planet. We're one of the few out there that has the capacity to make up for our destruction. I don't see anyone else out there planting trees to replace the ones we've cut down. Look at animal habitats we've created to help try to save endangered animals (free thinking provided to us through millions of years of evolving higher brain functions, by the by)
As for trusting science...I'm talking about science. I staunchly support science above all else. The studies are out there. We're too naive to think that something as vast as this planet can't recover and survive from what we've done to it after we're gone.










Uh, you missed the point, rain forests have been around for 1000s of years without help from humans.
Why would wildlife need the ability to plant a tree, when they seem to be in perfect balance with one another???
The balance is upset now, but thats again because of the human race.
Most people say, most people think and most people see that they wouldn't be endangered in the first place, if we didn't upset the balance.Look at animal habitats we've created to help try to save endangered animals
And if your claim is we didn't upset the balance, isn't saving endangered species upsetting the balance?
You are boasting the human race for something that is really not praise worthy, either way you look at it.
Unless you say there is no balance at all, but then trees wouldn't exist at all food wouldn't exist for the wildlife and so on..
I think balance is all around us, everywhere and you dont have to look far to see it.
You are right about evolution being different to creation, but it depends how you look at it..
I look at evolution from the timeline of evolution, but the creation still needed to exist first, you are right... the earth needs to be there, for evolution to take place.
but your still putting perfection and imperfection together and you cant run from that...
Yes I know them, but they run by instinct, not free thinking, totally different.Let me ask you this Darknight...are you familiar with pine beetles? beavers? Ticks, parasites?
I doubt their destruction is bad destruction like ours is.
Your talking about some science, just like I am talking about some sicence..As for trusting science...I'm talking about science. I staunchly support science above all else. The studies are out there. We're too naive to think that something as vast as this planet can't recover and survive from what we've done to it after we're gone.
I do accept that its POSSIBLE that we are not destroying the earth at all, to a point beyond repair..
But there is ALSO LOTS OF STUDY to prove we are. which is why we are spending so much money trying to change, is that true?
Last edited by Darknight; August 13th, 2010 at 09:31.
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