same here, life after death is as true as sun and moon.
you have to prepare for it. Believe in one God, follow the divine book and practice good
Yes I do believe in life after death?
What about you?
same here, life after death is as true as sun and moon.
you have to prepare for it. Believe in one God, follow the divine book and practice good
Not even a little bit.
I decompose, my nutrients return to the earth. To me, that's way cooler.
Originally Posted by PHPRalph
You would have it both ways if you did
You don't have to believe in god to believe in a afterlife.
Answer, no.
I won't die, because I don't exist in the first place.
Someone else somewhere far away will just wake up from a vivid dream.
^ Totally expected you to say "I only exist virtually"
But yes I believe in afterlife; otherwise what's the point existing? If our reason of existence is just that then there really is no point going on... (but that's a whole different discussion)
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to live the life you have now, that you KNOW exists?otherwise what's the point existing?
What's the point of spending your entire life waiting to die?
I cant rationally reject the need for an afterlife without feeling stupid!
If our only point was to help bring destruction to the earth, then we should all die now...
Humans have always been destructive to the earth, toxic so to speak..
I cant see how its possible that evolution was perfect at creation but then stuffed up on its most complex creation...
The statement really is "Evolution is perfect at creation then; evolution is imperfect at creation"...
I dont see how it can be both perfect and imperfect, I would think if Big Bang or something like it was real, we wouldn't be a destructive race...
I don't know... you sounded quite unsure yourself.
The point of humanity is not "to destroy the earth". We are here for the same reason as any other organism. To co-exist, to adapt, to survive. Sure we might not be following that method these days, but trust me, the earth can cope. The earth will be here long after we've all died.
Furthermore, the idea that "evolution was perfect at creation" is hypocritical to what evolution is. If we were all created perfect, there is no need for evolution. Evolution is but the tweaks along the way on this journey we call existence.
The Big Bang would prevent us from being destructive? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? These are unrelated things.
Ok, can you point to a time in history when we did fellow these methods?
Because I cant find any, so I would love to see some
From my history studies, I can only find destruction, in the past we were "better" at preserving the earth than we are today, but never fully preserved it.
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Well since for evolution to exist, the sun had to be a certain distance to the earth, gravity had to be just right, trees needed to be just right and our lungs needed to be just right...
The earth needed to be as it is for us to exist on it, couldn't be like mars or Pluto!
The earth got like it is by being PERFECTLY placed?? Didn't it??
So the flaw is, we as humans are not perfect and you even said;Sure we might not be following that method these days...
So I think you agree that the human race is some how flawed..
Why would something that was so perfectly placed spawn such destruction?
We dont co-exist at all! our chopping down of trees has destroyed wild life, our moving around importing different wildlife to different countries has devastated natural wildlife in said country and unbalanced everything, further more the trees we cut our own own oxygen supply.
Why would I trust you? Id rather stick to science on this.but trust me, the earth can cope.
Big Bang I mean like, If everything just went BANG, it would be perfect.The Big Bang would prevent us from being destructive? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? These are unrelated things.
Evolution I guess I can agree with you that for evolution to work, there would be a need for trial and error, to learn from and evolve, so yes that does make sense, good point...
But for evolution to even exist, certain things need to be perfect, again sun and earth placement and so on.
Evolution is different from creation. The right measures fell into place for us to become what we are, but we had to evolve as a species to survive. Otherwise we'd all still be single celled organisms just lying dormant. And obviously we are flawed as a species, which, as I mentioned, IS WHY WE EVOLVE, so we over time change our makeup as a species to closer strive to perfection. whatever perfection is.Ok, can you point to a time in history when we did fellow these methods?
Because I cant find any, so I would love to see some
From my history studies, I can only find destruction, in the past we were "better" at preserving the earth than we are today, but never fully preserved it.
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Well since for evolution to exist, the sun had to be a certain distance to the earth, gravity had to be just right, trees needed to be just right and our lungs needed to be just right...
The earth needed to be as it is for us to exist on it, couldn't be like mars or Pluto!
The earth got like it is by being PERFECTLY placed?? Didn't it??
So the flaw is, we as humans are not perfect and you even said;Sure we might not be following that method these days...
So I think you agree that the human race is some how flawed..
Why would something that was so perfectly placed spawn such destruction?
We dont co-exist at all! our chopping down of trees has destroyed wild life, our moving around importing different wildlife to different countries has devastated natural wildlife in said country and unbalanced everything, further more the trees we cut our own own oxygen supply.
Why would I trust you? Id rather stick to science on this.
Let me ask you this Darknight...are you familiar with pine beetles? beavers? Ticks, parasites? Look at other species around you before you start looking at us as the only ones out there who are consuming the natural resources on this earth. There is nothing out there in this world that doesn't exist to consume something on this planet. We're one of the few out there that has the capacity to make up for our destruction. I don't see anyone else out there planting trees to replace the ones we've cut down. Look at animal habitats we've created to help try to save endangered animals (free thinking provided to us through millions of years of evolving higher brain functions, by the by)
As for trusting science...I'm talking about science. I staunchly support science above all else. The studies are out there. We're too naive to think that something as vast as this planet can't recover and survive from what we've done to it after we're gone.
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