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    Reseller hosting using SSD drives

    Hello,

    Does anyone provide 'standard' WHM/Cpanel reseller hosting on servers utilizing SSD (solid state drives)?

    If yes, how much could cost the following amount of resources:

    20Gb of disk space
    200 Gb of monthly traffic

    Content: 'usual' blogs/low load sites.

    Thanks.
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    Usually not going to find shared/reseller hosting on SSD drives yet, as they are too small (storage space) to be cost effective...particularly considering you have to have them in at least a RAID1 configuration. There are a few out there, but you can expect to pay top dollar for non-oversold hosting on SSD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    Usually not going to find shared/reseller hosting on SSD drives yet, as they are too small (storage space) to be cost effective...particularly considering you have to have them in at least a RAID1 configuration. There are a few out there, but you can expect to pay top dollar for non-oversold hosting on SSD.
    Just to get to examples, I found webolocity.com (not yet tried their services) and vpsdeploy.com (quite cost-efficient and fast). The cost is within 20-30$. But I'd like to see more choice, even though I understand this type of market is quite young.

    Since I am quite happy with my personal SSD usage, moving whatever possible to either fast cloud or SSD-driven servers is a reasonable step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterbo View Post
    Just to get to examples, I found webolocity.com (not yet tried their services) and vpsdeploy.com (quite cost-efficient and fast). The cost is within 20-30$.
    The problem is that at those prices, they are quite clearly overselling their servers. You can't have SSD drives in RAID-10 at those prices and still make money. I'd be happy to do the math if you like. VPS Deploy uses OVH in France, and operates their servers on desktop-grade hardware, instead of server-grade hardware. You can't realistically have 50GB of SSD space and 5TB of bandwidth for $25 without massive overselling.

    In fact, you can see the servers they are using for shared/reseller hosting here: http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers It's the 2nd one on the list, that costs 99.99 pounds per month...then you have another 25 for cPanel, 19 for hardware RAID. Their cost (at a minimum) is around 145 pounds per month. That's $230 USD.

    After the OS install and cPanel install, you're left with about 100GB of disk space on the server. So 2 of their $25/mo. plans, and the disk is completely full, assuming no overselling. But that leaves them at a $180/mo. deficit on the server. Well you know they aren't running a charity, and they aren't losing almost $200/mo. on the server, so something has to give. In this case, it's extreme overselling of the disk space and bandwidth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    The problem is that at those prices, they are quite clearly overselling their servers. ...
    Indeed.
    Well, then I shall wait for more realistic providers, without overselling, even if it would cost more.
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    To answer your question on cost, I'd say a minimum of $40-50/mo. for something like that.
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    Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying you shouldn't try them out. For less than $1/day, you can certainly give them a try for a month or two and see how things work out. Just know what you're getting yourself into ahead of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying you shouldn't try them out. For less than $1/day, you can certainly give them a try for a month or two and see how things work out. Just know what you're getting yourself into ahead of time.
    Thanks, but I always make the final decision myself, even though I value pieces of advice.
    I will try both. After all, there are few SSD-based hosting offers these days, and perhaps the pioneers can be quite a choice.

    Update. Webolocity declined my order. Pity I was not fitting their demanding criteria of a good customer. May other be more lucky. So, if there are any other suggestions, please name them.
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    I have a vps that we split out into 4 dedicated reseller accounts that we are selling for 12.95 a month

    40gb space
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    Cpanel / Softaculous
    1 dedicated ip
    Private Name Servers

    $12.95 per month

    http://billing.24khost.com/order.php...=22&product=70
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJW View Post
    I have a vps that we split out into 4 dedicated reseller accounts that we are selling for 12.95 a month

    40gb space
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    Cpanel / Softaculous
    1 dedicated ip
    Private Name Servers

    $12.95 per month

    http://billing.24khost.com/order.php...=22&product=70

    I'm guessing that's not with SSD drives?

    Masterbo, what criteria did you not meet, just out of curiosity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJW View Post
    I have a vps that we split out into 4 dedicated reseller accounts that we are selling for 12.95 a month ...
    Does it use SSD?
    I have found no references to SSD on the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    Masterbo, what criteria did you not meet, just out of curiosity?
    It's a secret. They use 3-rd party anti-fraud service and followed its advice.
    Looks like the only problem is my location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterbo View Post
    It's a secret. They use 3-rd party anti-fraud service and followed its advice.
    Looks like the only problem is my location.
    Most hosts do, to prevent fraud and potential chargebacks.

    I put together some figures for something like this and could potentially put a server together pretty reasonably. Could offer 20GB of disk space, 1TB of bandwidth, and a dedicated IP in the $20-30/mo. range. That would be with absolutely 0 overselling. Really not too bad, all things considered. Of course, you could probably make more profit offering that as a VPS instead of reseller hosting, but whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    Most hosts do, to prevent fraud and potential chargebacks.
    It was the first case over many years when I was banned by anti-fraud system. Either it's too strict... or I have somehow offended it.

    Quote Originally Posted by wswd View Post
    I put together some figures for something like this and could potentially put a server together pretty reasonably. Could offer 20GB of disk space, 1TB of bandwidth, and a dedicated IP in the $20-30/mo. range. That would be with absolutely 0 overselling. Really not too bad, all things considered. Of course, you could probably make more profit offering that as a VPS instead of reseller hosting, but whatever.
    I think that's not completely mad idea, price including. Especially if noticeable change in speed followed.
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    You would be incorrect sir! It is ssd for these vps's
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJW View Post
    You would be incorrect sir! It is ssd for these vps's
    Great!! Another oversold SSD provider.

    $51.80 for 160GB of SSD space (and I'm assuming you're making some money on the reseller plans). ROFL!
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