OneBip.com fraud!

**sander k** · July 30th, 2012, 10:26

WHMCS has a module where you can allow payments per SMS throught OneBip.com, but there is kind of a catch... they don't payout!
Its just fraud, when I requested a payment of $250 they just changed their TOS... I mean WTF?!?

Did you have any problems with them in the past?

**JJW** · July 30th, 2012, 13:15

ouch that sounds pretty shady! What did they change there tos to say.

**Decker** · July 30th, 2012, 14:31

What did they change it from?

It says transfers are made to your bank every 60 days, not that you can request payouts.

**[JSH]John** · July 31st, 2012, 11:11

I can't seem to find anything about withdrawals in their TOS, but their fees page does state automated payments every 60 days. Could you give us a link to the page which they changed? Their fees page hasn't changed in a while and cached pages show 60 days.

**sander k** · August 1st, 2012, 01:20

It went from 250 to 400 USD!

**Decker** · August 1st, 2012, 01:58

Can't even find a bit that says there are limits Sander!?! Unless the site routes geographically and I can only see the UK/Europe part and it's on the US site.

I've been looking for a good micro-payment/cell processor for ages and to be honest OneBip doesn't seem a good bet, they whack you for almost half the payment between carrier and transaction charges.

**sander k** · August 1st, 2012, 09:59

Originally Posted by Decker

Can't even find a bit that says there are limits Sander!?! Unless the site routes geographically and I can only see the UK/Europe part and it's on the US site.

I've been looking for a good micro-payment/cell processor for ages and to be honest OneBip doesn't seem a good bet, they whack you for almost half the payment between carrier and transaction charges.

Thats true now, but it wasn't before.
There are a lot of people that still use the free (no longer free) WHMCS plugin and asked for a payout.
They just keep changing their TOS, payouts and all kinds of stuff to not make any major payouts.

**Decker** · August 1st, 2012, 13:44

There has to be a notification period at least when changing those things, didn't you get told about it in advance so you could withdraw if you weren't happy?

And to be honest bugger letting them keep it for 60 for days, I wouldn't use them for that reason alone...

**sander k** · August 2nd, 2012, 09:52

No, they didn't notify any one

**Decker** · August 2nd, 2012, 12:52

Go to your regulator after complaining officially (and telling them your going to the financial regulator) about the lack of any notice as this would have affected your businesses stance on using them as a payment processor.

**colorhost** · August 4th, 2012, 02:44

I am still surprised i accept onebip.

But yes, Onebip is not the best payment solution.

**sander k** · August 4th, 2012, 06:44

Originally Posted by colorhost

I am still surprised i accept onebip.

But yes, Onebip is not the best payment solution.

The stupiest thing of all is that we wrote the whmcs onebip plugin, so they proberbly made a lot of money with it. Yesterday I hired a lawyer to get my money.

**Decker** · August 4th, 2012, 06:48

Make the plugin 'paid for' as of today, that should bring about a sense of pleasing irony

and screw onebip for WHMCS users...

**sander k** · August 4th, 2012, 06:59

Originally Posted by Decker

Make the plugin 'paid for' as of today, that should bring about a sense of pleasing irony

and screw onebip for WHMCS users...

We did that 2 weeks ago, after they where coming up the first lame excuse they had.
we now ask a one time fee of just 5 euro. All files are incrypted allready and need a verified domain to work.