New FWP

[-bg]

Yet again, you have NOT answered my question.

If you cannot provide what you promise, why do you state so?

[drunkmule]

I am trying to make everyone happy. One guy says that I've made a mistake by providing unlimited bandwidth, then you are giving me crap about it. I bet you are the same person. Well if you really want to know Unlimited bandwidth means that you will not be contacted about the status of your site unless there is a problem with server that is effecting the entire community, including member pages. Problems like this should not occur on a dedicated server. Are you happy? Unlimited for my service means to the extent of our resources. I will not resopond to any of your replys because obviously you are just wasting my time. If anyone else has any questions please reply.

[Chicken]

Originally posted by drunkmule
Usually ppl complain that someone is asking for unlimited webspace. That I cannot provide. But I know that I can provide unlimited bandwidth on a dedicated server.

You cannot provide unlimited bandwidth just because you have a dedicated server. You need to look into this more before you start posting what you offer.

I question if you've even looked at how much 50 gigs of bandwidth will cost you? I don't think you fully understand how it all works, and how bandwidth can relate to server performance. You've never seen a site that usues over 2 gigs/month? I'm not talking about warez sites, and yes, the average will be under 2 gigs (even around 500 MB), but averages are one thing. You better have a plan for the site that uses 30 gigs and isn't breaking the rules.

You need solid servers to run a FWP, forget about the cheapie $100-$200 specials out there, they won't cut it. You'll be down more than up if you go this route. Also check out how much the line is going to cost you.

I say this because I don't think you've fully thought this out, nor researched things. I want to see you prosper so you can come back here and help others, and to help you avoid making costly mistakes.

If you are saving and planning to spend over $1,000/mo for this project then I am wrong and you have done your homework. If you've practiced by installing linux on your spare pc at home, then you are doing fine. If you are planning on hosting only a few people then again, you don't want to run a full scale FWP, but rather more of a small charity service with banners. That is fine also.

There is a difference.

[Gcites]

I used to offer everything now i cut down!

[drunkmule]

I was actually looking at the servers that you're talking about. I found some great prices for servers, around 500 to 1000. I've been researching this idea for about 5 months now, after having trouble with past hosts. I do not plan to be geocites over night. I want to provide something that no other free web host provider cannot. Once you sign up with my service, and your site is off the ground and running the user will get a full banner at the bottom of their site. If your site recieves say, 5000 hits one month you will recieve a smaller banner or you can place a full banner anywhere on your pages. This will go on unitl the user is gatting around 300,000 or more hits, and is placing a 88x31 banner anywhere on their site. After that I will give them the option of paying a certain amount to get rid of the banners. I also plan to reward the higher trafficed sites with a link of the week on the first page of community site. Anyother questions, comments or ideas?

[coolguy23]

yo if u can take your fwp off the ground then i think it will be the best...maybe not better then spaceports...well good luck and i really hope u can take it off the ground

[drunkmule]

Thats exactlly what I want to create. A free web host where you get smaller banners and more features from the amount of hits. I don't want to screw any users. I want them to come back and be happy. If I can make $50 of profit I'll be happy. I also want very quick connections. So I'm thinkning of saving up for a longer period of time to make sure I have back-up money for newer servers, programs, etc.

[Gcites]

Goodluck i spent around 1500usd to 2000usd in the first month and im in australian thats about 4000aus dollars =(

[butterfly syndrome]

i don't find the idea so bad. drunkmule, you should probably look into a dedicated server offer with lots of bandwidth. one gb equals about 40.000 full written normal paper pages, so with images, sounds and (especially!) cgi, two gbs are really not so much for an advanced user. small personal sites aren't going to take up much bandwidth though, so that makes up a little for the big, much visited sites.

what i would suggest though is that you start with ftp access right from the start. an ftp server isn't very difficult to set up, actually not much more difficult than configuring a cgi script for browser-only uploads. despite that, cgi without ftp access is a -----.

[ama]

Gcities, capitalise the S in Sydney in your "about us" page when you have time. Unless there is a reason why you have not done so...

Remember, down under is on top!

[Gcites]

WOW! a fellow aussie hey mate!

[jvv]

I think you should really think about what it's gonna cost you *before* you're gonna make profit out of it.
I saw NC_TOM post on one of the threads that he already put 13k usd into netcabins, and another thread claims that spaceports costs 80k every month and only makes 40k...

That's really something you should consider. Do you really have this kind of money, and if so, wouldn't it be better to invest in starting a payhosting company ?

[Technics]

I'll assure you im not ~bg.

It should be made illgeal to say you offer unlimited space and bandwidth. i just ordered an unlimited hardrive should be installed and formatted by the year 4500.

[drunkmule]

AHAHA good sleep. I'm already ahead of you. I've been saving since late June, with some bonuses I got and a few checks from AllAdvantage.com. They still pay me. The program that I'm looking at closely to do the host doesn't have ftp uploads just browser. I have no cgi knowledge beyond changing variables and perl paths. I would either have to find another program or find a ftp upload script.

And Technics, I know i'm probally your worst enemy for trying to start a free hosting company, but just let it go.

Like I said I don't plan to live off the profit that the company makes. I want to do this for the good of the net. If I make $10 in my first month, I'll be very happy. If I don't I'll just wait til next month, If I see no profit is made. I'll change some things around. But I don't plan to invest thousands of dollars into it yet. I want to start out small and stay small for quite sometime. If there are large amount of clients than, I will hire someone part-time to do do some cgi-scripting, and to make sure people are using the service correctly.

[Technics]

Your not my worst enemy at all i'm trying to prevent you from going belly up. Think realistically.

Start offering a small amount of space as custom grows increase it. Say you will give unrestricted bandwidth upto 2gb after that they have the account suspended until they can adjust the bandwidth. Anyone using more than 2gb on a freehost really should be using a paid host.

A good level of space for a fwp is about 30 to 50mb. If they require more maybe you can strike a deal with them.