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Time to rebuild my host spread

I do have a other server, this all of this hassle to get everything moved etc...Its just no point to me.

I dont want to turn Taos Thread into a forum all about my closing, so can we please stay on topic?

Have a mod split the thread and create a new topic then. I believe there's interesting points being made here. And this is a prime example as to why the shared hosting industry has gone to hell in a handbasket.
 
I do have a other server, this all of this hassle to get everything moved etc...Its just no point to me.

I dont want to turn Taos Thread into a forum all about my closing, so can we please stay on topic?

Actually colorhost, that's almost part of the concept, here in the end stages - it's about the lifecycle of hosts after the advertising stage. I'm learning a lot about the types of reasons. Also I considered it part of fairness for the hosts to have their last say.
 
Alright, Since Tao wants me to contiue i will

Well it appears that my provider that supplied the server to us as gone up in flames.

I do have all of your data, but due to the amount of stress that this has placed me i feel that we should not continue.

If the provider comes back online, i may continue...but i dont have promises on the return.
 
Have a mod split the thread and create a new topic then. I believe there's interesting points being made here. And this is a prime example as to why the shared hosting industry has gone to hell in a handbasket.

I'd rather not deeplist, it's nice to see the flow of time and host-community interactions in the thread, which was also part of the idea.
 
Alright, Since Tao wants me to contiue i will

Well it appears that my provider that supplied the server to us as gone up in flames.

I do have all of your data, but due to the amount of stress that this has placed me i feel that we should not continue.

If the provider comes back online, i may continue...but i dont have promises on the return.

But since you have the backups and you have another server why not just use that server?
 
Very good.

What ultimately happened here was his funding has dried up, in one way or another, and he's trying to blame it on hardware failure.

To colorhost: You know what? Hardware failures happen. It's just the way it is. If you had backups in place, you can have the datacenter swap out your failed hardware, restore your backups, and be back up and running in a matter of a few hours with minimal data loss.
 
That's funny because on Darksoul's screen capture above it says that they're closing because they have no funds.

Right Deeplist.

This is where I urge Colorhost to make a classy exit and avoid some of the famous pitfalls of companies in trouble by mixing Press releases.
 
It wasnt caused by me. It was caused by a other provider failures.

I do have backups.

I am gonna take "classy exit" as Tao says, and leave before somthing happens.

all i wanted to do, was announce to you guys the troubles...and i did so, but i did not want all of you guys to attack at me on it.

Good Bye guys, i hope to be back in the future!

Kevin H.
ColorHost CEO
 
Where do we go from here? P.S. to Deeplist, he's close enough, I don't mind two stray posts.

Deeplist, do you want a Wildcard slot, and if not, I'd like to know the logic. P.S. I lost track if free hosting is part of your normal offerings, because that is actually relevant.
 
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What do you mean by wildcard?

In the beginning I literally took anyone who offered a gig of space with linkback only (no posts, no banners) in return for a little promotion and the public visibility. Here towards the end I'm starting to close down on requests from hosts open under a year, because I have my data on hosts who specialize on 4-7 month turnover specialists.

However, I've noticed lately you've contributed, and your sig says you've been around since 1998, so I figured you'd have a shoo-in to run for second place. All this thread is, is a little connect-the-dots exercise of the field. It started when I got tired of all the "here we are" offers, followed by vanishing without a trace. So I made a simple opt-in deal: agree to be visible by the FWS community, ... including trouble if it happens, and those hosts who grind through get something like a "certification" that they're a cut above normal.

Wildcard is my choice to issue a couple of offers here and there. It's still supposed to be "easy" because I have got to be close to the easiest client to host ever, but I am still chilled by the revolving door of the Offers board and how many of those are just "collect 100 clients and sell" operations - worse, I caught one as a "collect data and fold" operation.
 
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Best chances of free hosting

I still feel a paid host is the best source of free hosting - as a "entry / loss leader", but the point was the host has to not vanish. My big meta-theme is there is a colossal security risk when paid webhosts fold because of the payment data.

Of course I can afford a dollar a month - the concern is there's no blind-encrypted micropay services out there that I trust / and-or are common enough.
 
I still feel a paid host is the best source of free hosting - as a "entry / loss leader", but the point was the host has to not vanish. My big meta-theme is there is a colossal security risk when paid webhosts fold because of the payment data.

Well, colorhost just vanished and they were a paid web host. So I guess it's a tossup.
 
Well, colorhost just vanished and they were a paid web host. So I guess it's a tossup.

(Trying to watch the parallel sentences)
I feel the best chances overall come from paid hosts as an overall model, but only if they have everything else working in order. Colorhost had special tags on the study for a while because they were indeed a paid host without a free division for a while.

To clarify, the hosts studied had to have an official free services division and not just "manager-coupon" me in. The goal was to promote hosts across FWS.

Indeed, now that they are struggling, I hope Colorhost takes great pains to protect the data. Actually
Colorhost, I'd recommend you delete your payment data from any of your paid clients, and if you ever come back, just require it again. Unfortunately you're square in the profile of the biggest plus of free hosting - I have perfect data backups, so if a host folded, all I lost was a little posting time. But once that Money factor shows up, I think collapsing paid hosts are potentially the biggest security risk of all time if they make any two of some ten possible exit mistakes.
 
Well, a little background about myself and my company. I began designing websites in 1998 and I offered hosting back then as well, but only as a reseller for another company.

In 2000, I purchased my first dedicated server and began the full time hosting operation under the DBA: DeepList PC Services using the domain deeplist.com, which is now only a redirect. This had went on for about 6 years and then I decided that it would be best to market the services under a new name and new domain, which is when I decided to begin "Decker Services" and use deckerservices.com and I have been doing so for the last 5 years. The company has grown a lot since then and as a result, we're now a fully licensed LLC in the state of Indiana doing business under Decker Services LLC, no longer a sole proprietorship.

Collectively, I have had an online presense since 1998 and have been offering hosting solutions on my own equipment since 2000. As you can see, I've been a member on these forums for nearly as long.

As with any hosting provider, we've had occasional downtime due to errors, or hardware failures, but over the last 2.5 years, we've maintained an average uptime of 99.98 percent. NOT 99% or even 99.9% but 99.98%. Customer service is #1. We have a phone number for phone support. Forums and tickets for online support. If you want to run a business, your customers are what MAKE you. They're not just numbers! People do not seem to get that!

In regards to your thread here, I've read over a good portion of it, not all. I understand your study and I think it's really beneficial to the community to help raise the awareness for deadbeat hosts and kiddies who don't have a clue. Is it possible for a kid to run a hosting business? Yes it is. In 1998, I was only 12 years old. I got my first RedHat 7.2 server when I was only 14. It's possible, but the vast majority of these people these days just don't have a clue. It makes all of us look horrible and destroys the shared hosting industry.

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I'm done.
 
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