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Anyone else get annoyed by this?
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I'm mad that company like *** ******* I think it shows that the staff is not as technically inclined as they should be. I had an offer when I was looking at paid hosting that said 1 gig space and 10 gigs bandwidth. When I went to his site that plan had 1,000 mb. I asked him why and he said there is 1,000mb in a gig. I figured that if someone didn't know there was 1,024mb in a gig then they wouldn't know how to manage a server and left.
I'm mad that company like *** ******* I think it shows that the staff is not as technically inclined as they should be. I had an offer when I was looking at paid hosting that said 1 gig space and 10 gigs bandwidth. When I went to his site that plan had 1,000 mb. I asked him why and he said there is 1,000mb in a gig. I figured that if someone didn't know there was 1,024mb in a gig then they wouldn't know how to manage a server and left.
Any chance of reversing the trend?
Can this be put to a talking point?
Actually offer the "full" Gig, but create a warning zone at "1000 megs". I would much prefer this to the "We reserve the right to nuke your account at any time for no cause" phrases I see all the time.
"Dear Customer. Your account is nearing the maximum normal capacity. Please contact us for upgrade terms."
Can this be put to a talking point?
Actually offer the "full" Gig, but create a warning zone at "1000 megs". I would much prefer this to the "We reserve the right to nuke your account at any time for no cause" phrases I see all the time.
"Dear Customer. Your account is nearing the maximum normal capacity. Please contact us for upgrade terms."
Yes, and if you want to break that down then every binary number can be expressed as 2^n; for instance:
1 byte = 2^3 bits.
1 kilobyte = 2^10 bytes = 2^13 bits.
1 megabyte = 2^20 bytes = 2^23 bits.
1 gigabyte = 2^30 bytes = 2^33 bits.
That's if you're following the byte-standard, if you're following the bit standard then:
1 kilobit = 10^3 bits.
1 megabit = 10^6 bits.
1 gigabit = 10^9 bits.
Of course where it gets confusing is when you need to convert megabits to kilobytes... for instance 1 megabit = 1,000,000 bits = 125,000 bytes, which is approx 122.07 kilobytes. So, 1 megabyte = 8.388608 megabits.
Um, no that's completely wrong!
Is that a typo or are you being serious?
*notes the "stupid" typo above
And To be Honest, in my case, on the VPS page I list the disk space as 25,000mb or 25gb as most people would read it as. I find it easier that way for the customers because you tend to get a lot of "newbies" in the hosting and look and see "1024mb" disk space and they go "well isn't 1000mb a GB?". So it can go either way
PoliticalMonster
New Member
It's only 24 megabytes...
We could go round telling how many bits our clients get, bits as in digits, as in 1's and 0's
1024mb = 1024mbx1024kbx1024bx8 = 8589934592 bits/gigabyte (I think)
On second thought, it might be 1024mbx1000kbx1000b << thats what I remember from those ol' physics classes.
When we say 1gb disk space, it's 1000mb in cPanel, not because it's what we think or because of industry standardization, simply because it's simpler. If a client needs/wants those extra 24mb, of course, they can have it. Anyway, cPanel should start measuring in gigabytes, since thats where the hosting world is going.
In other areas, I see many many hosts and people get he 100mbit/s and 100mbps port options wrong with dedicated servers. It's too confusing as it is for non-hosts, so 1000mb is just the best number to use. Why do the physicists have to make up such dumb numbers 0_o
We could go round telling how many bits our clients get, bits as in digits, as in 1's and 0's
1024mb = 1024mbx1024kbx1024bx8 = 8589934592 bits/gigabyte (I think)
On second thought, it might be 1024mbx1000kbx1000b << thats what I remember from those ol' physics classes.
When we say 1gb disk space, it's 1000mb in cPanel, not because it's what we think or because of industry standardization, simply because it's simpler. If a client needs/wants those extra 24mb, of course, they can have it. Anyway, cPanel should start measuring in gigabytes, since thats where the hosting world is going.
In other areas, I see many many hosts and people get he 100mbit/s and 100mbps port options wrong with dedicated servers. It's too confusing as it is for non-hosts, so 1000mb is just the best number to use. Why do the physicists have to make up such dumb numbers 0_o
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It's only 24 megabytes...
We could go round telling how many bits our clients get, bits as in digits, as in 1's and 0's
1024mb = 1024mbx1024kbx1024bx8 = 8589934592 bits/gigabyte (I think)
On second thought, it might be 1024mbx1000kbx1000b << thats what I remember from those ol' physics classes.
When we say 1gb disk space, it's 1000mb in cPanel, not because it's what we think or because of industry standardization, simply because it's simpler. If a client needs/wants those extra 24mb, of course, they can have it. Anyway, cPanel should start measuring in gigabytes, since thats where the hosting world is going.
In other areas, I see many many hosts and people get he 100mbit/s and 100mbps port options wrong with dedicated servers. It's too confusing as it is for non-hosts, so 1000mb is just the best number to use. Why do the physicists have to make up such dumb numbers 0_o
I cannot disagree with you. The only hosts that use the MB really are the free hosts. They should make a dropdown if you want it to mean MB or GB
Not necessaraly. I use mb 1,000 mb for example is our first plan.
Yes but what I am saying is if they allowed a dropdown menu to select GB instead of MB then you could simply put in "1" and click "GB" because that is basically what you are selling the client (minus like 24mb). It makes it a little bit quicker IMO
Yes it is, you are incorrect.
Gigabyte = GB = 1000 MBs
Gibibyte = GiB = 1024 MBs
As standardised by the International Electrotechnical Commission in 2007, and implemented in good software, ie. linux.
Saying all that, to avoid confusion, on Liway all figures are given in megabytes.
Great they came out with a Gibibyte? they'd be better of just saying "A standard GB is XX" instead of doing that. Good to know though
I think the agreement they reached with the solution is probably the best one, which will affect the least number of companies.
Which one? The International Electrotechnical Commission's one?
Oh and your site not only tells me not to use Internet Explorer, but looks like absolute crap in it. Yeah, I'll stop using the Trident Engine, when the Gecko Engine actually surpasses it - but as it doesn't, I won't. It doesn't even highlight the default button in forms!
Which one what?
Do you think that the two might have something to do with each other?
Nope, that's totally wrong. You're using the wrong abbreviations.
PoliticalMonster
New Member
Garrhhh, we don't need this argument, because from a clients perspective, they want gb's not mb's. If you insist on posting in megabytes, then 1000 per 1gig is probably better, because most clients will understand this.
As I said earlier, it's only 24megabytes, when dealing with gigabytes of space that 99.9% of people won't use anyway, those 24megs can be ignored
A much more important argument is the one against overselling...
As I said earlier, it's only 24megabytes, when dealing with gigabytes of space that 99.9% of people won't use anyway, those 24megs can be ignored
A much more important argument is the one against overselling...
Which value of megabyte? 1048576 bytes? Or 1000,000 bytes?
You can't trust anything Wikipedia says; not to mention it is biased towards the International Electrotechnical Commission.
Actually, if you want my opinion I think you're completely full of yourself for deliberately making your site look like crap in Trident. I can do the same thing to Gecko-based browsers as well. So, Trident isn't 110% WC3 compliant? Good for them, that's because they don't think in the narrow little box that WC3 does - the internet was made to be free; I disagree with the idea that browsers should have to conform to WC3 standards - I always have; and I always will. Microsoft doing things a little differently doesn't make designing web pages any harder, if anything it gives you greater flexibility and freedom.
Whichever one cPanel uses to measure it.
Yeh.....that's why I also linked to the IEC website....
I don't.
